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Old Posted Sep 3, 2015, 9:00 PM
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I could care less what an Office I don't work in looks like on the inside. That goes condo's I don't live in as well. You should see inside a Deloitte office. new or old. :S
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Maybe it's because they are trying to fit too many people on the floor. Some offices from the outside, all I've ever seen, look very nice and soft lighting. Other floors are hard lighting, and look like they are packed with people.
I haven't been on the high rise floors. They could be fine. The lower half of the tower is really cramped. It's too long and narrow. I've been on executive floors. They had no more people on it than expected. Some of the offices are nice but, there was little room left for EAs and filing. Some of the EAs were seated ridiculously far from their boss' office.
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I could care less what an Office I don't work in looks like on the inside. That goes condo's I don't live in as well. You should see inside a Deloitte office. new or old. :S
I'd be curious to see their existing and new office space, got any links to pics? I heard they're using an innovative new format for the BA2 tower, with even senior executives having to share space!
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2015, 10:10 PM
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I could care less what an Office I don't work in looks like on the inside. That goes condo's I don't live in as well. You should see inside a Deloitte office. new or old. :S
Condo are completely different. Developers can do whatever they want and pre-purchasers just have to take it. Office tenants control the situation. BA2 is very much a product of tenants wants and desire. Maybe Scotia Plaza and other aspiring towers crappy floor plans had a role.
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An update on the glass on Brookfield Place courtesy of SurrealPlaces. The taper is becoming quite noticeable now.

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Some pics of the glass corners on Brookfield Place. Now that there are 4 levels of glass you can see the angle at which the corner radius widens. I think the corners on the upper floors will have quite a large radius. Should be very cool.


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Walked by Harbourplaza today. Can clearly see both towers from the south and north sides at the same time at ground level.

I was walking through Maple Leaf Square and York Street.
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Is there nicer glass?
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2015, 8:45 PM
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Based on what's happening at One Bloor, might be another year and a half before we see balcony glass. Probably will resemble One Bloor balcony glass as well.
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Condo are completely different. Developers can do whatever they want and pre-purchasers just have to take it. Office tenants control the situation. BA2 is very much a product of tenants wants and desire. Maybe Scotia Plaza and other aspiring towers crappy floor plans had a role.
Again, how does Scotia Tower have a crappy floor plan? Also I know how office spaces work vs Condo. BA2 has done nothing to create better floor plans it's a box. Build a box and you have a simple layout to work with, about as tough to work with as an outlet mall. Buildings like the Bow and Scotia may have awkward floor plates but tenants want to be in landmark towers. Some of the best looking skyscrapers have floor plates that force the interior designers to get creative. An Intern to figure out what to do at BA2. It;s a perfect building and has perfect floor-plates to handle some amazing cubical space for accounting firms.
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2015, 2:07 AM
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I already explained it several times.
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Again, how does Scotia Tower have a crappy floor plan? Also I know how office spaces work vs Condo. BA2 has done nothing to create better floor plans it's a box. Build a box and you have a simple layout to work with, about as tough to work with as an outlet mall. Buildings like the Bow and Scotia may have awkward floor plates but tenants want to be in landmark towers. Some of the best looking skyscrapers have floor plates that force the interior designers to get creative. An Intern to figure out what to do at BA2. It;s a perfect building and has perfect floor-plates to handle some amazing cubical space for accounting firms.
Pretty much this. That's why things tend to get a bit more creative with mixed use these days, as strictly office buildings have mostly become econo construction boxes. Even The Bow was value-engineered nearly to death from its original conception.


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But in all honesty, I don't lement at all the product we received. I love The Bow from all angles, even it's wide NE exposure.




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^ Damnit, I wish I could unsee the initial proposal for The Bow. Sometimes it's better not to know what a building was originally supposed to look like, so you can fully appreciate what was ultimately built.
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Indeed.. Shame it had the cheapening applied.
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I don't really care for the crown and would have cast shadows on the river pathway. The expansive atria and pods were a loss but understand their reduction. Where they really cheaped out is the plaza and grounds.
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I don't really care for the crown and would have cast shadows on the river pathway. The expansive atria and pods were a loss but understand their reduction. Where they really cheaped out is the plaza and grounds.
Not to mention the entire cultural building comprising the south block. Today it sits as a deck.
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This is the East site of Massey Tower. I do not believe the tower will be built over this site, this might just be parking. The construction bridge connects this east site with the site on the west which fronts onto Yonge. I'm not sure.....but it looks like there is a crane base at the bottom right of my photo.

Massey Tower - 207 meters


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DP to be posted shortly, but Stantec is indeed 250.8m at 66 floors.
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This is the East site of Massey Tower. I do not believe the tower will be built over this site, this might just be parking. The construction bridge connects this east site with the site on the west which fronts onto Yonge. I'm not sure.....but it looks like there is a crane base at the bottom right of my photo.

Massey Tower - 207 meters
No underground parking at Massey. Parking will be on levels 3 to 7 (five in total).

It will also be one of those fancy automated parking systems.
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Well, its confirmed city document: 250.8 meters!
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