AUSTIN | Waterline (98 Red River) | 1,022 Feet | 73 Floors | U/C - Page 71

The ATX · #**1401** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 9:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by lebull

Are you sure that one is the incorrect one? I mean we DID mock them about them adding snow in the rendering.....

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That was one of the old renderings from a design competition from about a year ago.

enragedcamel · #**1402** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 10:28 PM**

When can we expect this to break ground?

kingkirbythe.... · #**1403** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 11:36 PM**

Texas’ Tallest Tower Could Break Ground on Waller Creek in 2022

https://austin.towers.net/texas-tall...creek-in-2022/

If you’ve ventured outside much lately in downtown Austin, you might have noticed some new decor installed on the fences around the corner of East Cesar Chavez and Red River Streets at the de facto entrance to the Rainey Street District — banners featuring

The ATX · #**1404** Posted **Mar 3, 2021, 11:51 PM**

The construction timeframe listed on one of the AULCC documents is 02/2022 to 02/2024. But that is always a very rough estimate.

KevinFromTexas · #**1405** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 3:50 AM**

I would expect a supertall to take longer than 24 months to complete, and that's without 21st century hiccups.

zx14 · #**1406** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 3:53 AM**

I dont know why it would take another full year to break ground. That seems a bit lengthy. Any way this tower in my uneducated opinion will take a bit more than 2 years to finish. The underground phase would be at least 6 months. Then another 8 months to build the parking/podium. Then at a floor a week that is another 14 months. Than another 6 months to fit out. So more like 3 years. Still not bad for an overgrown college town LOL

Max Tower · #**1407** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 4:30 AM**

oddly enough, that april '22 date comes straight from the latest plan set. never seen that included like this in a site plan before, assuming it's intended to be remotely accurate. doubt they mean april 22nd, as in next month...

drummer · #**1408** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 2:39 PM**

I'm excited about this one. My wife and I were in the area on the trail over the weekend and I was annoying her a bit with my excitement...

JAM · #**1409** Posted **Mar 4, 2021, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by zx14

I dont know why it would take another full year to break ground.

Not sure if this same spot, but it looks to be used for staging/storage area right now for other building going up - maybe its under some sort of lease contract.

We vs us · #**1410** Posted **Mar 6, 2021, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by JAM

Not sure if this same spot, but it looks to be used for staging/storage area right now for other building going up - maybe its under some sort of lease contract.

They were staging a lot of stuff for the Quincy off these lots, but since the Quincy is finishing up, we should see most of that stuff go away sooner rather than later.

KevinFromTexas · #**1411** Posted **Mar 12, 2021, 10:56 PM**

So, we're settling on 1,022 feet being the final height, correct? In the elevations, the top height is listed as 1,481 feet 6 inches. That elevation shows 465 feet being the lowest figure, but it goes down a few more feet than that. I know that we talked about 452 feet being the lowest number shown on the site plan near and entrance, but that number would make it more than 1,022 feet tall if we measured from there to the number at the top of the tower. So, my question is, what is the lowest elevation we're going with to measure from for that to be the official height we go with?

The ATX · #**1412** Posted **Mar 12, 2021, 11:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

So, we're settling on 1,022 feet being the final height, correct? In the elevations, the top height is listed as 1,481 feet 6 inches. That elevation shows 465 feet being the lowest figure, but it goes down a few more feet than that. I know that we talked about 452 feet being the lowest number shown on the site plan near and entrance, but that number would make it more than 1,022 feet tall if we measured from there to the number at the top of the tower. So, my question is, what is the lowest elevation we're going with to measure from for that to be the official height we go with?

For now, we'll have to go by the AULCC elevations which are the most recent with a height of 1481.5'. Unfortunately the 452 starting point is on the elevations with the shorter 1474 height. But 452 still looks like the best starting point for the 1481.5 height. So going back to the 1030' (rounded) height seems reasonable until we get the approved elevations.

KevinFromTexas · #**1413** Posted **Mar 13, 2021, 3:08 AM**

That's cool. I just wasn't sure. I hadn't pored over the latest site plan for the lowest elevation number yet. I haven't really posted much about it, yet, until we have a firm height on it.

DoubleC · #**1414** Posted **Mar 14, 2021, 7:03 AM**

Probably old news, but that would make it the tallest in Texas? I'm surprised Texas only has one 1000-footer which is the JP Morgan building in Houston, and by just two feet.

enragedcamel · #**1415** Posted **Mar 14, 2021, 6:18 PM**

I'd love to see a couple more 1000'ers. Ideally 1200+.

paul78701 · #**1416** Posted **Mar 14, 2021, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleC

Probably old news, but that would make it the tallest in Texas? I'm surprised Texas only has one 1000-footer which is the JP Morgan building in Houston, and by just two feet.

That is correct:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...dings_in_Texas

According to this, an even taller building has been proposed in Dallas. I have no idea what the likelihood is of it being built though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_and_proposed

Also, note that Austin makes a respectable appearance in that countrywide list of approved and proposed buildings.

Edit:
According to this, the Dallas building has been canceled: https://www.emporis.com/buildings/15...-dallas-tx-usa

fereLeonart105 · #**1417** Posted **Mar 14, 2021, 7:06 PM**

From that wikipedia page:
Buildings proposed/approved >700 ft by city:
16 NYC
14 LA
8 Chicago
6 Austin
4 Miami
2 Philly
1 Boston
1 Dallas
1 San Francisco
1 Seattle

Good company indeed!

Tyrone Shoes · #**1418** Posted **Mar 14, 2021, 8:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by fereLeonart105

From that wikipedia page:
Buildings proposed/approved >700 ft by city:
16 NYC
14 LA
8 Chicago
6 Austin
4 Miami
2 Philly
1 Boston
1 Dallas
1 San Francisco
1 Seattle

Good company indeed!

Pardon the pun but it does put us in some lofty company!

We vs us · #**1419** Posted **Mar 15, 2021, 1:56 AM**

It’s CRAZYTOWN to see us listed just after the old stalwarts NYC/LA/CHI for 700 footers (!!!!) And we lead the second tier - minus Miami - by a significant amount. Once again I’m amazed that we’re seeing a major city build itself up right in front of our eyes.

KevinFromTexas · #**1420** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 1:23 AM**

FAA permits for the building...

Work schedule is listed as 01/10/2022 to 10/10/2025.

This lists the roof sea level height as 1,489 feet, so subtracting 1,034 feet from that, we get 455 feet as the ground level sea level height.

1,034 feet - 98 Red River - Corner D
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...74692262&row=0

1,033 feet - 98 Red River - Corner A
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...4654130&row=17

1,023 feet - 98 Red River - Corner B
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...4689806&row=18

1,023 feet - 98 Red River - Corner C
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...4690836&row=19