Barron Building - Provincial Historic Resource

Amsterdamned · #1 Posted **Apr 1, 2014, 4:48 PM**

I just came across an article indicating the Barron Building is to be designated a Provincial Historic Resource per the following link: http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/g...ar31_Part1.pdf Refer specifically to pages 4 & 5.

This is easily my favorite building in the City and I know its slated for redevelopment. A significant renovation/addition anyhow.

I'm curious whether anyone knows anything further. Although it may be designated a Historic Resource, I believe it can still be renovated and modified. Can anyone confirm this??

Govertical · #2 Posted **Apr 1, 2014, 5:09 PM**

I'm so glad that this is being preserved! Hopefully they'll get the theatre back

Amsterdamned · #3 Posted **Apr 1, 2014, 5:33 PM**

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I'm so glad that this is being preserved! Hopefully they'll get the theatre back

I'd be ecstatic if they could bring the theatre back but I know they stripped a lot of it out. The building has been significantly under maintained over the years.

Amsterdamned · #4 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:05 AM**

http://www.altusinsite.com/index.php...Find+Buildings

Spring2008 · #5 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:48 AM**

Retail only on second floor? That's a fail for that location. Lots of new restaurants etc opening west of the tree sculptures.

Chadillaccc · #6 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:02 AM**

Wow this render looks great! But wow, if there is retail only on the 2nd floor, what a freaking waste of an opportunity to bring some activity back to the street level!!!

Full Mountain · #7 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:08 AM**

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Wow this render looks great! But wow, if there is retail only on the 2nd floor, what a freaking waste of an opportunity to bring some activity back to the street level!!!

Agreed, no main floor retail and the lose of the marquee are both big drawbacks to this proposal. It's not like Strategic has a great track record of getting projects done either....

O-tacular · #8 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:42 AM**

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Wow this render looks great! But wow, if there is retail only on the 2nd floor, what a freaking waste of an opportunity to bring some activity back to the street level!!!

No kidding. Wtf is that big empty glass room on the side then? Probably just an elevator lobby to the parkade? And totally sealed off from the outside world.

MasterG · #9 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 4:23 AM**

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No kidding. Wtf is that big empty glass room on the side then? Probably just an elevator lobby to the parkade? And totally sealed off from the outside world.

That corner has walk-by traffic numbers in the tens of thousands per day . You'd think that the occasional one would want to walk in and buy a coffee enough that ground floor retail would be warranted.

RyLucky · #10 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 5:51 AM**

That would be a good corner for a newspaper kiosk. I wonder why Calgary doesn't have any...

Coffee, food, or retail would be great too.

Anything but lobby, really.

Fuzz · #11 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 12:36 PM**

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Agreed, no main floor retail and the lose of the marquee are both big drawbacks to this proposal. It's not like Strategic has a great track record of getting projects done either....

Strategic manages our building, and I don't have much faith they can do anything but butcher a project. They have done terrible things to ours...And don't get me started on their heating/cooling program...

H.E.Pennypacker · #12 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:18 PM**

Wow no retail on the main floor?? Biiig fail .. Major dislike for this project now

Full Mountain · #13 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:38 PM**

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That would be a good corner for a newspaper kiosk. I wonder why Calgary doesn't have any...

Coffee, food, or retail would be great too.

Anything but lobby, really.

This would be an interesting idea, wonder if this would be allowed...

Full Mountain · #14 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:39 PM**

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Strategic manages our building, and I don't have much faith they can do anything but butcher a project. They have done terrible things to ours...And don't get me started on their heating/cooling program...

After the debacle on 4th, and the fits and starts that the replacement <50% of the windows in this building has occurred in. I have no faith that they can even figure out how to put a crew together to get something done, let alone properly restore one of Calgary's more prominent historical properties.

Full Mountain · #15 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:41 PM**

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That corner has walk-by traffic numbers in the tens of thousands per day . You'd think that the occasional one would want to walk in and buy a coffee enough that ground floor retail would be warranted.

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Wow no retail on the main floor?? Biiig fail .. Major dislike for this project now

It will be nice to have a slightly more open corner to wait on and more space for the bus stop, but really other than that....

Fuzz · #16 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Full Mountain

After the debacle on 4th, and the fits and starts that the replacement <50% of the windows in this building has occurred in. I have no faith that they can even figure out how to put a crew together to get something done, let alone properly restore one of Calgary's more prominent historical properties.

Well they've shown they know how to erect ugly scaffolding over the sidewalk and do nothing with it for a good year, so that's a start! The city should force them to remove it until they actually start doing work.

Spring2008 · #17 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Full Mountain

After the debacle on 4th, and the fits and starts that the replacement <50% of the windows in this building has occurred in. I have no faith that they can even figure out how to put a crew together to get something done, let alone properly restore one of Calgary's more prominent historical properties.

Looks like the debacle lives on, have they even leased out any of the 20/20 building? Meanwhile Maxwell Bates looks to be fully leased, including all retail bays....

Full Mountain · #18 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:53 PM**

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Well they've shown they know how to erect ugly scaffolding over the sidewalk and do nothing with it for a good year, so that's a start! The city should force them to remove it until they actually start doing work.

I think that scaffolding is there to support the marquee as they don't have permission to remove it but it isn't stable enough to support it's self due to lack of maintenance

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Looks like the debacle lives on, have they even leased out any of the 20/20 building? Meanwhile Maxwell Bates looks to be fully leased, including all retail bays....

Kinda sad really, a bustling retail corridor and they can't find tenants

Jimby · #19 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 4:10 PM**

There was a DP approved a few weeks ago for a restaurant in 20/20, but I don't know if any of the office space has been leased yet.

H.E.Pennypacker · #20 Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 4:12 PM**

I know the office space has at least 1 tenant, not sure how much square footage they're occupying though