NEW YORK | 125 West 57th Street | 440 FT | 26 FLOORS

[jackster99]

They say it will be 26 floors, but hopefully that will either grow or the ceiling heights will be very high to cater to these high end clients.

In order to have Central Park views for most floors this will have to go pretty tall, not supertall, but still tall. I could see this ending up as 600-700 feet, even at 26 floors, if they have a very tall lobby and base and then 20 foot ceilings for each floor.

[NYguy]

Yeah, there will be a way to get those park views. That will be the draw here.

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by jackster99

They say it will be 26 floors, but hopefully that will either grow or the ceiling heights will be very high to cater to these high end clients.

In order to have Central Park views for most floors this will have to go pretty tall, not supertall, but still tall. I could see this ending up as 600-700 feet, even at 26 floors, if they have a very tall lobby and base and then 20 foot ceilings for each floor.

I was thinking the same thing. Even if the floors were 20 feet tall, that would only be 520'. I can't recall what's north of this on 58th and on CPS, but I'd imagine that even at 520', very few offices would have park views.

[NYer34]

Between Extell and Solow -

they are destroying any class that 57th Street once had.

All of the stately old masonry buildings ... all the class of the area around 5th and 6th Avenues ... basically all going down the toilet.

One of the city's premier streets will be basically all-glass, all-modernist Anywhereville. No history whatsoever.

It's a damn shame. This city really needs to landmark everything pre-WWII and let everything else be fair game. It's how Europe's premier cities do it.

[chris08876]

It would be nice if they incorporate the existing towers into their skyscrapers. Speaking in general here, in which the existing towers or structures are ones that are treasures to begin with. Like with what 111 W 57th did, which is a renovation/addition as opposed to new construction/demolishing the whole existing structure. Its just a hell of an addition.

For some of these structures to go, it would make sense if the replacement is exquisite, but seems to be rare cases where such a scenario occurs.

Kinda a struggle, as the structures that are blight seem to remain, yet the treasures see the wrecking ball.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by NYer34

It's a damn shame. This city really needs to landmark everything pre-WWII and let everything else be fair game. It's how Europe's premier cities do it.

I'm not aware of any European city that has such a rule. They would laugh if you called a 1930's building "historic".

And that would be an idiotic rule. 80% of the city's core would be automatically untouchable, including tons of crap.

[chris08876]

Permits Filed For 26-Story Building At 125 West 57th Street In Midtown, Manhattan

Permits have been filed for a 26-story mixed-use building at 125 West 57th Street in Midtown, Manhattan. Located between Sixth Avenue and Seventh Avenue, the lot is steps away from the 57th Street subway station, serviced by N and Q trains on Seventh Avenue and the F train at the 57th Street station on Sixth Avenue. Alchemy Properties is listed as the owner behind the applications.

The proposed 419-foot-tall development will yield 1,503,246 square feet, with 822,379 square feet designated for residential space, 633,207 square feet for commercial space, and 47,660 square feet for community facility space. It is unclear how many residential units the building will have. The steel-based structure will also have a cellar and subcellar.

FXCollaborative is listed as the architect of record.

As YIMBY reported earlier this month, demolition permits were filed at the start of November. An estimated completion date has not been announced.

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[Visionist]

So will every building here come down, on both streets, meaning the new building will abut One57? The residential square footage is interesting. 1.5 million is a Hell of a lot for 26 stories.

I wonder if there's any way this won't be a squat, glass hulk?

[scalziand]

Either this building has a massive footprint to squeeze that much FAR in such a short height, or the 419' figure is just a placeholder in the permit fillings, and will be updated with a taller figure later.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by scalziand

Either this building has a massive footprint to squeeze that much FAR in such a short height, or the 419' figure is just a placeholder in the permit fillings, and will be updated with a taller figure later.

Likely the height figure will be revised, though I don't know why it wouldn't be included if they are filing for the full buildable amount. Maybe that 419' figure was for the commercial space, and the larger tower hasn't been designed. But that is a huge amount of residential space for this location.


From just last month...

The 26-story building will include about 180,000 square feet of office space spread across boutique floors measuring about 10,000 square feet. The developers said they’ll be targeting tenants such as family offices, private equity companies and boutique law firms.

Looking at the permit, it looks like those totals may not be for the new building itself.


http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

Total Building Square Footage: 259,508 sq.ft.

[Submariner]

And this is the only building coming down? It isn't part of a site assemblage?

[NYer34]

57th Street is rapidly going from one of the most classic / classiest streets in Manhattan to ... Hudson Yards on the Street Grid.

All possible thumbs down.

Blanket Landmarking for All Pre-WWII Structures!

Not like any of the commies / real-estate lobby toadies who tend to run for mayor or City Council care about the city actually being a nice place...

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by NYer34

Blanket Landmarking for All Pre-WWII Structures!

What a positively stupid idea.

[BK1985]

800K residential space is larger than all of 432 Park so I think this will most likely be bumped up substantially

[NYguy]

The lot in question those figures come from is 111,000 sf and about 600 ft street frontage. So we're talking multiple sites, of which this one site is probably just a part of.






The lots in question would include One57:






The 57th Street side...

[Visionist]

It's a pity the facades won't be preserved. Demolish the insides completely and replace them with double height, through-block office floors with cantilevered, column free ceilings, extending across both buildings which handily have the same window configuration. Each floor would have a double height row of two windows atop each other.

That might cover the entire commercial allocation, and build something contextual on top, toward the 58th street side, up to around 1200', for the residential portion. This would create a handsome staircase effect between One57 and Steinway.

But no, just Taer It Dahn! Nothing worth preserving here!

[Busy Bee]

^100%

[JMKeynes]

FX Fowle will be the architect, so this should be nice.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

https://www.alchemy-properties.com/a...folio/#current

[JMKeynes]

I’m eager to see the design. It would be nice if the developers could acquire the bland, black building to the west.

[NYguy]

https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/calvar...for-tower/amp/

Calvary Baptist Church revives exciting plans for tower





By Steve Cuozzo
June 20, 2021

The Calvary Baptist Church at 125 W. 57th St. needed a miracle after the pandemic appeared to doom plans for a mixed-use tower that would give its congregants a desperately needed, larger house of worship.

But after a construction lender pulled out in March 2020, the project is born again – thanks to the deeply committed partnership of the church, developer Alchemy Investment Partners and its financial partner, Cain International.

Calvary gave the developers time and flexibility to restructure the financing when a loan agreement broke down in March 2020 and the lending market was frozen.

After months of patient strategizing, Cain was able to tap a new funding source from an affiliate, Security Benefit Life, which holds the senior mortgage. The result: Alchemy and Cain finally closed last week on the stalled purchase of the church-owned property between Sixth and Seventh avenues. The roughly $120 million buy is part of an overall project cost of $350 million.

Now, one year later than first planned, demolition is to start in the fall and vertical construction early in 2022. The new, 26-story, 440-foot-tall boutique office building – which will include the church’s new home – is to be completed in 2024.

The church had urgently needed $15 million-$20 million to modernize its facilities. It was introduced to Alchemy several years ago by FX Collaborative architect Dan Kaplan, who had worked with Alchemy on several projects and is designing the new building.

The project and its timing posed other challenges as well. The church had to close down the dilapidated Salisbury Hotel, part of the building it’s owned for more than 100 years.

The partners needed to decide what to build in its place, ultimately agreeing, “Our instinct was not to go residential,” Horn said – despite the Billionaires’ Row location, where it’s bracketed by the soaring condo apartment towers of One 57 and 111 W. 57th St.

Then, “It took a long time to get our plans through the Department of Buildings when nobody was working,” Horn said.

Cain will own most of the equity in the 260,000-square-foot tower, which will have 185,000 square feet of office space, most of it with Central Park views. It will boast state-of-the art technology, 10,000-square-foot floor plates that are rare in the area, numerous outdoor terraces, a full amenities floor, floor-to-ceiling windows and 14.6-foot-highs. Rents will top $100 per square foot.

Calvary Baptist Church will separately own its 180-foot-high base portion of the building, which will double its current space and include a new auditorium and facilities for community and educational use.