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Old Posted Jun 12, 2015, 11:04 AM
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LOS ANGELES -- Delta Air Lines celebrated the completion of its three-year, $229 million terminal-wide refurbishment of Terminal 5 at Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday. The carrier staged a ribbon-cutting for the opening of Delta ONE at LAX, the carrier's first premium check-in lounge with a dedicated curbside entrance, a high-design atmosphere, and a security checkpoint accessible directly from the lounge.

The new pre-security lounge is "for our Delta ONE customers and our 360 unpublished tier customers – our highest revenue-generating customers – and is a facility that will brisk them through the experience, from the curb right to security," Jeff Robertson, VP -- Delta Sky Club, Product Development & Marketing Communication, said during a reception in the lounge, "It's about extending the onboard product to the ground
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The Delta remodel already looks out of date. Like a 90s blast from the past.

Terminal 2 at least looks up to date. Though a bit overdone IMO. LA somehow lacks the vocabulary for elegant restraint, contemplation, or minimalism. Even our modern stuff has to be really loud and kind of shallow.
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The Delta remodel already looks out of date. Like a 90s blast from the past.

Terminal 2 at least looks up to date. Though a bit overdone IMO. LA somehow lacks the vocabulary for elegant restraint, contemplation, or minimalism. Even our modern stuff has to be really loud and kind of shallow.
I believe the term you're looking for is "douchey".
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2015, 11:28 PM
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Terminal 5's half-assed renovation. Totally disappointed that they didn't revamp the concourse itself.

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Terminal 5's half-assed renovation. Totally disappointed that they didn't revamp the concourse itself.



http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0...nal_5.php#more
Wow! Thanks for sharing the pics and it's great! Gosh! Look much better, but I think it's right choice and it will helps to reduce wait times at security. Don't they have exit controls doors?
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Terminal 5 honestly doesn't look much different.
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the low ceiling heights and lack of natural light there are dreadful!
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2015, 1:13 AM
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Small update of Terminal 2 progress…


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Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) has unveiled a new energy-efficient lighting scheme and ‘lightband’ throughout its Central Terminal Area (CTA). The new lighting scheme marks completion of Phase II of the $118-million LAX CTA Curbside Appeal and Roadway Improvement Project. The project also includes wayfinding and roadway improvements, which operator Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA) says are designed to make the airport more visible, safer, and easier to navigate for pedestrians and motorists.

Phase II of the LAX Central Terminal Area Curbside Appeal and Roadway Improvement Project began Spring 2014. In addition to the modern, custom-made LED (light-emitting diode) light poles and lightband, other project components include: wayfinding signage; a new canopy in front of Terminal 4; traffic and roadway improvements; and a retrofit of the Upper Level, World Way South, and Center Way roadways.

The Curbside Appeal Project was designed to bring together the current separate-looking key architectural elements of the airport’s iconic 1960s Theme Building, the 2000 LAX Gateway light pylons, and the nine airline terminals. Aesthetically, the Curbside Appeal Project will dramatically revitalize the look of LAX with new vibrancy, color and energy – offering a world-class welcome to travellers and visitors alike.

The canopy in front of TBIT is currently being extended to Terminal 4 and construction is scheduled to be completed in early 2016. The long-range plan is to have canopies at all terminal.
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LAX could see more than 100 million travelers a year by 2040

LAX could see more than 100 million travelers a year by 2040

By DAN WEIKEL
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July 25, 2015


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"Ne aviation forecasts predict that Los Angeles International Airport, already straining under a record number of passengers, could have more than 100 million travelers annually by 2040, far more than the ceiling set by a 2006 court settlement that will soon expire.

According to projections released last week, the Southern California Assn. of Governments estimates that between 78.9 million and 100.7 million passengers a year will eventually pass through the nation's second-busiest commercial airport. LAX, the leading international gateway on the West Coast, had 70.7 million passengers last year.

Overall, the regional planning agency predicts that a dozen commercial airports within its six-county jurisdiction will handle between 136 million and 138 million travelers annually by 2040..."

http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...726-story.html
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2015, 12:20 AM
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100 million passengers at LAX... that's going to get the NIMBY's all riled up for nothing.

High Speed Rail is going to sap the demand for a lot of air travel to/from Bay Area... that's about 30% of LAX's total passenger count if I recall correctly.

If the rail link to Vegas is completed too, there is another significant chunk of LAX passenger growth.
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Here's some really interesting information from one of the presentation files posted on the Connecting LAX website.

-- Right off the bat, one should see that an option to have the APM circulate the CTA wasn't explored. If it was, then the studies concluded that it was a suboptimal solution from a cost-benefit analysis. This is clearly because of the CTA's unique oblong horseshoe configuration. So we can put the whole "station at every terminal" argument to rest.

-- The preferred option leaves open the possibility of a fourth station, which addresses my main concern that Terminals 0, 7, and 8 would be inadequately served with just the three stations.

-- With a fourth station or even pedestrian walkways, all terminals (except for maybe T5) would be within a reasonable 5-minute walking distance from a station.

















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^ And those walk times are extremely conservative. Even with escalators/elevators, it shouldn't take 4.9 minutes to walk 485 feet.

1/2 mile (2,640 feet) -- 10 minutes
1/4 mile (1,320 feet) -- 5 minutes

Longest station-to-terminal distance is 1,045 feet, so the actual walk time should be less than 5 minutes and not 7.2 minutes!

Using that average speed and tacking on 45 seconds to take into consideration slowing factors (crowded stations, carrying luggage, moving up and down escalators/elevators), we get:

TBIT ~ 1 minute
Terminals 3 and 4 ~ 2 minutes
Terminal 2 ~ 2.5 minutes
Terminals 1 and 6 ~ 3.5 minutes
Terminal 5 ~ 4.5 minutes

Terminals 0, 7, 8 ~ 3.5 minutes with another station or pedestrian walkway
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2015, 2:26 AM
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^ And those walk times are extremely conservative. Even with escalators/elevators, it shouldn't take 4.9 minutes to walk 485 feet.
Well, you have to consider that people are carrying luggage and there are crowds of people so they probably aren't going at normal walking speed. That said who really cares about a few minutes anyways? You're going to be waiting at security and the gate much longer anyways. 1000ft isn't much for a major airport.
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2015, 2:36 AM
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^ There are quite a few people that think it's too much walking because they see how other airports' people movers drop passengers off directly at each terminal.

I agree that it's not a big deal. This spine alignment is extremely convenient for passengers going to Terminals 6-8 because one can get off at the first station (and not the fifth or sixth) and not have to wait for the train to loop around the CTA.

Plus, LAX's terminals are very compact compared to other American airports. There is less walking involved in the terminals themselves.
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There is a good reason why T5 is not getting its own APM station... it's likely that LAWA will eventually raze T5 and move Delta elsewhere.

The south side is a little too crowded and Delta gave up its T5 lease to LAWA during the last bankruptcy. The speculation is that once TBIT Mid Field Concourse is completed, LAWA will start T3 tear down/rebuild. The new T3 will be connected to both TBIT and T2 and Delta will be offered space in T3. The existing airlines in T3 will be relocated elsewhere (plenty of room in T2 and T6). After Delta moves out, T5 will be demolished and a smaller terminal will be rebuild there, probably as an appendix of T4. This will allow faster ground movements (airplanes will not require tow in and tow out).

This is all just speculation. But LAWA holds the lease on T5 so they could move Delta if they want.
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How many of you have seen the modernization plan for LaGuardia Airport? That's the type of massively ambitious overhaul that LAX is in desperate need of! Unfortunately, it probably can't happen until after the MSC is done.
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100 million passengers at LAX... that's going to get the NIMBY's all riled up for nothing.

High Speed Rail is going to sap the demand for a lot of air travel to/from Bay Area... that's about 30% of LAX's total passenger count if I recall correctly.

If the rail link to Vegas is completed too, there is another significant chunk of LAX passenger growth.
is there a LINK for Vegas Rail information?
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How many of you have seen the modernization plan for LaGuardia Airport? That's the type of massively ambitious overhaul that LAX is in desperate need of! Unfortunately, it probably can't happen until after the MSC is done.
LaGuardia is a real sh!thole... LAX is really nice compare to that place.

All the terminals at LAX are modern and functional and will only require some aesthetics updates and minor refresh (like building the T3-TBIT connector). APM will address the ground transportation mess which is the only glaring problem at LAX. Once T3 is renovated (probably after MSC), all the terminals except T1 will be connected behind security. And If Southwest wants to start international flights from LAX, they can pay for to connect T1 and T2 so they can use the immigration and customs facilities in T2.
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