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Originally Posted by smallfrie
Of course you worked for Project Connect.
ATP's own materials state that the track and station engineering costs are in the construction portion of the budget. This is from KXAN, only because I couldn't cut-and-paste own ATP's graphics into this post:
Of that $7.1 billion amount, it’s divvied up in the following ways:
$3.19 billion: Light rail construction and engineering costs
$1.86 billion: Professional services
$1.11 billion: Maintenance facility and vehicles
$937 million: Real estate
I'm sure there's a ton of "engineering,"in the Professonal Services budget." Seriously, like environmental engineering, some of the geo-technical. etc., even though ATP has probably also lined-out a hundred million dollars or so for sanitation engineering. There'd better be some engineering in there, for two billion - it can't all be for lawyers, lobbyists/PR, accountants and sundry other consultants- can it?
I would be amazed if much if any "hard engineering," has been started yet, and I define that as engineering output that is derived directly from calculus level equations. I sure wouldn't start that unless all my funding was guaranteed or it was required beforehand by the Feds (which I doubt is the case here).
The "Professional Services," crowd is incentivized to drag the process out as long as possible before a shovel-full of dirt is turned. The actual construction and operation of a rail system is their worst nightmare. If it is killed - because the cost gets so high that it's ludicrous to continue - they will have received years of great income for not so much work and can move on to the next project.
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CapMetro's "own materials" say the exact opposite.
I even quoted them.
I can't speak to the KXAN story. Presumably a misprint/misquote.
https://www.atptx.org/wp-content/upl...nce-FAQ-V2.pdf
Those categories (like here 80) are literally defined by the FTA.
Planning and Concept Design
Preliminary Engineering
Final Design
Project Management for Design and Construction
Agency Project Management
Project Management Oversight Support
Agency Force Account
Unspecified
Construction Administration & Management
Professional Liability and other Non-Construction Insurance
Legal; Permits; Review Fees by other agencies, cities, etc.
Surveys, Testing, Investigation, Inspection
Start up
Training/Start-up
Safety Certification
Off-Site Vehicle Testing, Test Runs
Commissioning
Unspecified
Other
All are _legally required_ to be coded as "Professional Services (80)"