HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > General Development


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #52861  
Old Posted Mar 31, 2024, 2:34 PM
k1052 k1052 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,242
Belmont has had vacancy issues from Halsted to Sheffield basically as long as I can remember. Adding residents and subtracting retail footage might actually help. At least what they are putting in is divisible so that they don't have to find a single tenant who will take all 10k feet.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52862  
Old Posted Mar 31, 2024, 4:43 PM
Jibba's Avatar
Jibba Jibba is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,922
Quote:
Originally Posted by ardecila View Post
The site plan is pretty typical for a Chicago condo. Front door on Wayne, the two BK curb cuts will be closed off and the garage doors accessed from the public alley. Actually with the ground floor residential, the whole Wayne frontage and half the frontage on Irving Park is lined with "real" windows.

Unfortunately you will see the garage doors from Irving Park and Clark because the senior housing site plan is so open, but there's nothing the developers can do about that.
Yeah, never mind — one of the elevations I saw had me confused; thought the garage door was fronting Irving (not sure that would even make code).
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52863  
Old Posted Mar 31, 2024, 10:52 PM
Zapatan's Avatar
Zapatan Zapatan is offline
DENNAB
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NA - Europe
Posts: 6,137
Is the Tribune Tower renovation finished? I wonder how sales are doing.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52864  
Old Posted Apr 1, 2024, 7:11 PM
gandalf612 gandalf612 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Andersonville, Chicago
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewbs View Post
https://chicagoyimby.com/2024/03/fur...lake-view.html

they're cutting the retail space by half: "will replace a pair of existing two-story commercial buildings with 18,960 square feet of retail space...The new ground floor will hold approximately 9,900 square feet of retail space instead."

So more housing density -- "210 residential units [!!] made up of 90 studios, 43 junior one-bedrooms, 58 one-bedrooms, and 19 two-bedroom layouts" -- but also much less retail.

Housing can go either on main streets like Belmont or on side streets, but retail is only allowed on the main streets. The end result is that developments like this kind of inevitably push out organic retail. Would be nice to have the Jane Jacobs-style retail around the corner off the main streets to allow for more variety.
Chicago has tons of empty retail space so this is IMO a good thing. In general the US has a ton more retail square footage than Europe but I doubt anyone would accuse European retail streets of not being vibrant.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52865  
Old Posted Apr 1, 2024, 7:46 PM
dewbs dewbs is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by gandalf612 View Post
Chicago has tons of empty retail space so this is IMO a good thing. In general the US has a ton more retail square footage than Europe but I doubt anyone would accuse European retail streets of not being vibrant.
It's not 100% clear from the plans, but at least some of the square footage reduction is coming from parking going back there, which is probably not how it would go in Europe. At least part of the reduction is from a residential lobby.

And the point here is that this retail space wasn't empty. Sure, put in residential where the retail is empty.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52866  
Old Posted Apr 1, 2024, 7:56 PM
Toasty Joe Toasty Joe is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago, IL
Posts: 402
I still can't help but feel frustrated by the 925 W Belmont proposal, mostly a combination of the following:
- the fact they could build a tastefully slim tower on the parking lot behind the existing structure, which isn't an architectural gem but still adds character to a busy retail street
- the soulless replacement... if you're going to knock down something near our 2nd busiest CTA stop (outside of downtown), at least put up something interesting or taller or both! Seeing NYC, London, Tokyo, etc address neighborhood mid- and high-rise infill with more thoughtful designs leaves me wanting more for our city.
- there's been an uptick in demolitions of perfectly fine ~1880s buildings around this area, despite a bunch of vacant lots or more reasonable teardowns
- the handful of planned megadevelopments that haven't found steam yet and sit vacant while the city overall seems to be in a high-rise lull
- I often pass a bunch of vacant & parking lots near transit in Wicker, Bucktown, LP, Logan, Old Town, and Lakeview that could use the investment without anything to knock down


I want Lakeview to be more urban, but developers have made a ton of questionable decisions there lately, like knocking down the beautiful Fifth Thirds bank building for a bland low-rise grocery store, or the missed opportunity with the Target. This feels like another example we'll look at in 10+ years as a missed opportunity, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52867  
Old Posted Apr 1, 2024, 8:27 PM
twister244 twister244 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,992
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toasty Joe View Post
I still can't help but feel frustrated by the 925 W Belmont proposal, mostly a combination of the following:
- the fact they could build a tastefully slim tower on the parking lot behind the existing structure, which isn't an architectural gem but still adds character to a busy retail street
- the soulless replacement... if you're going to knock down something near our 2nd busiest CTA stop (outside of downtown), at least put up something interesting or taller or both! Seeing NYC, London, Tokyo, etc address neighborhood mid- and high-rise infill with more thoughtful designs leaves me wanting more for our city.
- there's been an uptick in demolitions of perfectly fine ~1880s buildings around this area, despite a bunch of vacant lots or more reasonable teardowns
- the handful of planned megadevelopments that haven't found steam yet and sit vacant while the city overall seems to be in a high-rise lull
- I often pass a bunch of vacant & parking lots near transit in Wicker, Bucktown, LP, Logan, Old Town, and Lakeview that could use the investment without anything to knock down


I want Lakeview to be more urban, but developers have made a ton of questionable decisions there lately, like knocking down the beautiful Fifth Thirds bank building for a bland low-rise grocery store, or the missed opportunity with the Target. This feels like another example we'll look at in 10+ years as a missed opportunity, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
Agreed.

And as I have pointed out, it's not like there is a swath of dead retail space here. Most of the spaces on this block are full of active businesses/retail/food.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52868  
Old Posted Apr 2, 2024, 12:22 AM
SolarWind's Avatar
SolarWind SolarWind is offline
Chicago
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,510
919 on Fulton - 919 W Fulton Market

April 1, 2024









Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52869  
Old Posted Apr 2, 2024, 3:04 AM
Toasty Joe Toasty Joe is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago, IL
Posts: 402
doesn't look like this rain affected their pour schedule too much
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52870  
Old Posted Apr 3, 2024, 12:56 AM
BVictor1's Avatar
BVictor1 BVictor1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10,434
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...moving-forward

Johnson to greenlight four Loop office-to-residential conversions
By Danny Ecker


Quote:
Four projects that would use massive taxpayer subsidies to help turn outmoded office buildings on and near LaSalle Street into nearly 1,100 apartments are poised to move a key step closer to reality.

Mayor Brandon Johnson is expected to announce tomorrow that the city will move forward with negotiations for proposed office-to-residential conversions of properties at 111 W. Monroe St., 208 S. LaSalle St., 30 N. LaSalle St. and 79 W. Monroe St., according to people familiar with the plan.
Quote:
Sources familiar with the LaSalle Street initiative said the Johnson administration continues to work with other development teams seeking city financing for office-to-residential conversions, but that the four projects were chosen to move forward now with a formal city review process.
Quote:
A budget document obtained by Crain's shows the LaSalle Central TIF is projected to bring in over $175 million in 2024, rising to $203 million in 2030, the year the district is set to expire. That annual amount would likely allow the city to both fund LaSalle Street projects — which get paid in increments as developers meet major milestones — and still have surplus money from the LaSalle Central TIF to pay down future deficits.
Quote:
Three of the four projects slated to move ahead — those at 111 W. Monroe St., 208 S. LaSalle St. and 30 N. LaSalle St. — were part of Lightfoot's shortlist.
__________________
titanic1
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52871  
Old Posted Apr 3, 2024, 1:11 AM
BrickellBased BrickellBased is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 231
Not very tall - but this is a large project. The building has such a huge footprint. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this affects the neighborhood.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SolarWind View Post
April 1, 2024

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52872  
Old Posted Apr 3, 2024, 9:26 PM
Toasty Joe Toasty Joe is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago, IL
Posts: 402
St. Paul’s Norwegian Evangelical Lutheran Church

There's been some activity lately at the iconic St. Paul’s Norwegian Evangelical Lutheran Church on North Ave in Wicker Park. I'd noticed the roof on the spire had started deteriorating for the past few years and couldn't be more excited it's being fixed up. Any news on redevelopment plans?

Preservation Chicago has an article from 2 years ago saying they were looking for a buyer after 2 failed residential conversion attempts in 2017 and 2019.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52873  
Old Posted Apr 5, 2024, 5:19 PM
Via Chicago Via Chicago is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 5,618
just because theres scaffolding dosent mean its being fixed, could just be a safety thing. see St Adalbert which has had massive scaffolding for years now with no active redevelopment plan. in this case it has code violations and dosent seem to have any new permits pulled
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52874  
Old Posted Apr 5, 2024, 11:30 PM
dreamy-developer dreamy-developer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 18
Not sure if this belongs here, but thought I'd share this news from Brandon Johnson's admin his plan dubbed "Cut the tape" to fast track development in Chicago.

Fast-tracking Chicago’s housing, commercial development

Key Highlights in the article about helping fast track development:

Quote:
Policy: Initiate expedited reviews for affordable housing projects
Zoning: Adopt transformational zoning changes, including eliminating minimum parking requirements, streamlining special-use permits and more
Boards & Commissions: Evaluate the feasibility of streamlining the Community Development Commission and Chicago Plan Commission
Design & Construction: Streamline the Department of Housing’s Architectural and Technical Standards manual
Design: Reduce the number of internal design review meetings in the Department of Planning and Development from three to one; reassess the role of the Committee on Design
Environmental Review: Eliminate Phase 1 & 2 environmental reviews as a requirement for the sale for environmentally cleared city-owned parcels
Finance: Expand the pilot for cash advance payment options
Finance: Create an online “city wallet” account to improve options for customer billing, online payments and debt check
Procurement: Evaluate the feasibility of reducing the administrative burden of the city’s Economic Disclosure Statement
Really hope that a majority of this is passed through the City.

Last edited by dreamy-developer; Apr 5, 2024 at 11:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52875  
Old Posted Apr 9, 2024, 8:35 PM
LouisVanDerWright LouisVanDerWright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,452
Quote:
Originally Posted by Via Chicago View Post
just because theres scaffolding dosent mean its being fixed, could just be a safety thing. see St Adalbert which has had massive scaffolding for years now with no active redevelopment plan. in this case it has code violations and dosent seem to have any new permits pulled
Adalbert is very much alive:



Spot the mason in the bell tower working on stabilizing it. They are putting serious money into the structure of this building which is a relief. You can also see the new balconies they are adding.

__________________
Real Estate Bubble 2.0 in full effect:

Reddit.com/r/REbubble

Last edited by LouisVanDerWright; Apr 9, 2024 at 9:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52876  
Old Posted Apr 9, 2024, 8:45 PM
LouisVanDerWright LouisVanDerWright is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,452
In other preservation news, they are trying to raze a whole district of historic loft buildings designed by Alfred Alschuler in North Lawndale. These buildings were occupied as recently as last Fall and have been cleared out so they can be razed and replaced by a diesel exhaust belching microplastics distribution center for Amazon. To make matters worse, they are straight up Hilcoing it, blasting out the old factory windows with hammers to "abate asbestos glazing" as if launching glazing chunks and glass all over the place with hammers and no canopy is abatement of anything:















Everything you see here is coming down in about 30 days if the Alderman doesn't pull the demo permit. The alderman is Mile Rodriguez, call his office and let him know this is a travesty. This district was featured on Preservation Chicagos Chicago 7 this year so now it seems IDI Development is attempting to rip it down as quickly as possible before the public can chime in.
__________________
Real Estate Bubble 2.0 in full effect:

Reddit.com/r/REbubble
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52877  
Old Posted Apr 10, 2024, 8:15 PM
ardecila's Avatar
ardecila ardecila is offline
TL;DR
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: the city o'wind
Posts: 16,405
Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright View Post
Adalbert is very much alive
That's St. Boniface. Adalbert is in Pilsen / white terracotta cladding falling down. The building is falling apart while Byron Sigcho and the archdiocese dick around with each other.

The Landmarks Commission voted to landmark it, but it still hasn't even been introduced at City Council. There have been proposals to turn it into a music academy and an event venue, but no smart developer is gonna sign a purchase contract with so much uncertainty hanging over it all.

Turns out it's insanely hard to repurpose a gigantic ornate cathedral in a profitable way, especially when the alderman keeps letting the community dictate terms. At least with St Boniface the community was pretty open-minded about different reuse schemes, they just needed to find a developer who could make it pencil.

Back in Pilsen, Sigcho is also trying to expand the industrial corridor TIF to cover the whole neighborhood and he's already making plans to use it as his personal slush fund to dole out to homeowners and businesses. The funniest possible situation is that the city buys St Adalbert with TIF money, and still lets people worship there so we get a city-owned Catholic church. It was my grandma's parish church growing up so I'd love for it to be saved but this whole situation is such a clownshow it's ridiculous.
__________________
la forme d'une ville change plus vite, hélas! que le coeur d'un mortel...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52878  
Old Posted Apr 11, 2024, 7:52 PM
Randomguy34's Avatar
Randomguy34 Randomguy34 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Chicago & Philly
Posts: 2,400
50 unit building proposed for 1440 W Fillmore, continuing the midrise mini-boom we're having

https://chicago.urbanize.city/post/z...440-w-fillmore
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52879  
Old Posted Apr 11, 2024, 9:03 PM
intrepidDesign's Avatar
intrepidDesign intrepidDesign is offline
Windy City Dan
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 494
Did anyone see this?

Preservationists are seeking an eleventh-hour reprieve for a historic 152-year-old River North building facing imminent demolition...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hi...b94d412d&ei=31

WTF, how can they tear this down? This building is awesome! What a waste. Who do I email!!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #52880  
Old Posted Apr 11, 2024, 9:20 PM
mh777 mh777 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: River North
Posts: 167
Quote:
Originally Posted by intrepidDesign View Post
Preservationists are seeking an eleventh-hour reprieve for a historic 152-year-old River North building facing imminent demolition...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hi...b94d412d&ei=31

WTF, how can they tear this down? This building is awesome! What a waste. Who do I email!!
The new one will be just as awesome!

https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/08...ng-to-chicago/
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > General Development
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 4:48 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.