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Old Posted Jun 13, 2018, 2:27 PM
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Hi Kevin and c_speed,

Allen rd is only like 3 km long and not a controlled access highway. Big difference!!! Can you imagine the disruption during the construction phase? Understood that the west is MTO and east is city controlled but logic still applies during the options analysis regardless of provincial/municipal ownership.

From Blair to Montreal rd stay on north side but go on south side from Montreal rd to place d'Orleans. The RoW is there and will not interfere with morning/evening traffic as it is horrible as it is.

If the median is used the east enders will be the laughing stock.
Orleanerites (or whatever they are called) should prepare for 3 years of traffic hell with both the 174 and the Transitway bus lanes disrupted.
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Orleanerites (or whatever they are called) should prepare for 3 years of traffic hell with both the 174 and the Transitway bus lanes disrupted.
I was under the impression that the plan was to keep most of the bus lanes open during LRT construction.
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Orleanerites.
Orléanais(e) is the demonym for the Orléans in France.
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Orléanais(e) is the demonym for the Orléans in France.
Not sure it's a fitting moniker for the 21st century inhabitants of Orleans, Ottawa, Ontario but... yeah.
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Orléanais(e) is the demonym for the Orléans in France.
And Mayonnaise are the people who live just north of Buckingham, QC.
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And Mayonnaise are the people who live just north of Buckingham, QC.
I never thought of that. I love it!
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Checked out GeoOttawa today, and they seem to have moved Jeanne d'Arc and Orleans Boulevard stations under the roadways, as opposed to the side where they were depicted earlier. This is good news. It probably means entrances will be on both sides of the streets, making bus-train transfers simpler.
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That is good news, hopefully a similar change is coming for Lincoln Fields.
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That is good news, hopefully a similar change is coming for Lincoln Fields.
One can dream, but with the triple track/double platform arrangement, it would require 2 extra stairwells and elevators for the south side of the street.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but those don't sound more complicated than a bus loop.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but those don't sound more complicated than a bus loop.
And they are by far nicer to the bus rider.
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Looking to LRT extension, Ottawa businesses renew push for east-end federal offices

With LRT extension around the corner, discussions are underway for new east-end government workspace, PSPC says

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December 4, 2018
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Ottawa's light-rail line is slated to be extended as far east as Trim Road by 2022.

The promise of light rail is in the air – but Orléans business leaders say that without a major east-end employer, the trains won’t be enough to keep the borough up to speed with the rest of Ottawa.

The Orléans workforce is highly educated and predominantly bilingual, says the riding’s MP, Andrew Leslie. As such, many work for the federal government and commute elsewhere, such as downtown or the new DND headquarters at the Carling Campus.

While the standard of living in Orléans is good, Leslie says what’s missing are jobs that match the demographics of the ward – a challenge being tackled by the community’s business and political leaders, many of whom see a compelling case for the federal government to establish a larger east-end presence.

“The vast majority of new jobs (in Orléans) are still created at the local level by small businesses,” Leslie says. “We need a federal building or federal jobs to be in Orléans because we have one of the highest concentrations of federal workers.”

One of the issues caused by this imbalance is seen every day, says Jasmine Brown, executive director of the Heart of Orléans BIA. A study by the BIA’s Balance Orléans Task Force found around 80 per cent of rush hour traffic between Orléans and the rest of Ottawa is leaving Orléans for work.

“It’s basically a bedroom community,” says Brown. “There’s no major employment hub.”

The task force was established earlier in 2018. Now, the newly amalgamated Ottawa Board of Trade is addressing the same issues as part of its larger Capital Build Task Force, which Brown is also involved in.

With funding for the second phase of Ottawa’s light rail line secured, including stops at Trim Road, Place d’Orléans, Jeanne d’Arc and Montreal Road at the Canotek Business Park, Brown says it’s time to mobilize and address the need for a major employer in Orléans.

Yes, light rail may help relieve some pressure on the highway, says Doug Feltmate, chair of the BIA’s economic development group, but the imbalance won’t go away. Instead, the train will run full in one direction and close to empty the other way.

“Building LRT will help, but it has to be done in conjunction with a further development plan,” says Feltmate. “You need a catalyst.”

Balancing east and west

For many, that catalyst is a federal government presence, either an entire department or a workspace – the federal government has been experimenting with coworking-style workspaces meant to accommodate people from various departments.

The Balance Orléans study found that there are less than 50 federal employees working in Orléans, compared to more than 13,000 in the west end – and out of more than 130,000 overall in the National Capital Region.

So, if many of those 130,000 employees live in Orléans, what has historically prevented the government from setting up shop in the east end?

Broadly speaking, Shawn Hamilton – a senior vice-president at real estate brokerage firm CBRE, and a task force member – says Orléans has traditionally been residential. The development of a tech hub in the west created somewhat of a vacuum, he adds.

In recent years, procurement officials have typically required any new government office space be within 600 metres of rapid transit. There’s currently development land available at Trim Road and elsewhere along the eastern part of the LRT line. Developers have plans ready for the east end, says Feltmate. But they’ve so far been unable to capture the attention of federal officials.

“We’ve just never seen any interest in federal employment coming in this direction,” he says. “All the developers want is an opportunity to bid. And that’s been taken off the table.”

Whether the eastern light-rail extension, scheduled to be completed in 2022, will bring the government to Orléans remains to be seen. Public Services and Procurement Canada says an east-end flexible government workspace is “being discussed.

Leslie says he’s “confident” the government will set up shop in Orléans, but doesn’t know when.

“It will happen, but when and how ... I don’t yet know,” says Leslie.

Feltmate is less sure – he says he’s seen previous promises, but no results.

Nevertheless, members of the new task force say this year’s amalgamation of the city’s three chambers of commerce has the potential to amplify the voice of Orléans.

“I think we are setting the stage for a long term balancing of east versus west,” says Hamilton.

“We just need to take a few years now to change behaviors, educate people, and drive that development to the east end.”
https://obj.ca/article/looking-lrt-e...ederal-offices

I've always been puzzled by this push to get more jobs in Orléans. Orléans is part of Ottawa. It is not an independent City that needs to attract employment to provide jobs and economic opportunity for its citizens.

One of the main reasons Orléans is one of the most affordable places in Ottawa is the fact that it dose not have its own employment hub, and what's wrong with that? Don't we want an area that's affordable to families?

Orléans is also the closest suburb to the centre city and the first to get rapid transit, making commuting fairly easy.

It would also be very counterproductive for the Feds to shutter an entire building somewhere else in the City just to move a department to Orleans, which would cost millions and prolong the commute of hundreds, if not thousands who don't live in Orléans.

That said, if there is a department that needs to be consolidated into one or fewer buildings (such as what happened to DND) or they require a new building for a certain department for safety reasons, then be my guest. Build an employment hub in Orleans. Do it for the right reasons, not political reasons.
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Didn't CSIS just get a new building in the East end?
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Didn't CSIS just get a new building in the East end?
CSIS and CSEC are near Blair and Ogilvie. So not in Orléans.
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The land available for commercial development is south of Innes Road. Not exactly convenient to LRT. We better be careful about what we want.
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The land available for commercial development is south of Innes Road. Not exactly convenient to LRT. We better be careful about what we want.
There is available land close to both Place d'Orleans and Trim stations that would be ideal for office development.
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There is available land close to both Place d'Orleans and Trim stations that would be ideal for office development.
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The land available for commercial development is south of Innes Road. Not exactly convenient to LRT. We better be careful about what we want.
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this, so i'm just going to leave it here [moderators - feel free to reclassify if necessary].

I saw that in Atlanta's MARTA subway stations, entire soccer stadiums were being integrated into former dead spaces. Wouldn't this be wonderful if its incorporated into the confederation line stations? Maybe Pimisi?



Link to article: https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10...league/573496/
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Good Day. FYI:

The www.stage2lrt.ca website 'Resources' page has been re-organized and cleaned up a bit....
Looks like they are preparing it for the announcements and next round of plans and updates (I hope !).

Cross-posted.
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Jeanne d'Arc and Orleans Boulevard. I feel like the Cyrville's design looks a whole lot better and likely cheaper to implement.



https://twitter.com/meganshawCTV/sta...31983064264704


http://www.octranspo.com/ready4rail/cyrville
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