NEW YORK | 200 Greenwich - 2 WTC | 1,270 FT | 80 FLOORS | ON HOLD - Page 142

chris08876 · #**2821** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 10:50 AM**

I'd take a height reduction, so long as they don't touch the diamonds. That's the best part.

Submariner · #**2822** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 1:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by hunser

Not good news, thejacko5, who is with the industry, states:

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My opinion is that the tower will be value engineered. I mean what else can we expect? Just take a look at what happened to 1 and 3WTC. 4WTC is already very minimalistic, so there was nothing to scratch.

So my guess for 2WTC:
1. cheaper looking cladding
2. redesign of the diamonds
3. height reduction (~1,250ft)

Otherwise the tower won't go off the ground.

That's too bad - the cladding and diamonds are what makes this tower so great.

chris08876 · #**2823** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 2:59 PM**

I wonder if WTC2 has the same type of security designs that WTC1 has? I know that is what contributed to it being the most expensive tower ever built (And strongest too).

caltrane74 · #**2824** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 3:39 PM**

Is this tower being capped at ground level or are they moving forward?

chris08876 · #**2825** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 3:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Is this tower being capped at ground level or are they moving forward?

Working on subterranean features, but if no tenant is found, it will remain the height it is.

NYguy · #**2826** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 5:39 PM**

This tower is not going to rise until a tenant is found, or Silverstein otherwise gets financing, which won't happen until a tenant is found.

wilfredo267 · #**2827** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 5:49 PM**

lf they remove the crowns it will take away the one think that make this a truly spectacular building. lts funny that when the designs came out people were deriding tower 4 for being too safe and too boring looking. When all is said and done it will be the only building that was designed and built as originally intended which l believe ended up exceeding expectations. l hope this is not the case but unfortunately time as passed and the general population wont even give a shit about this so they will get away with it. l pray that i'm just being a jaded new yorker.

NYguy · #**2828** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by wilfredo267

lts funny that when the designs came out people were deriding tower 4 for being too safe and too boring looking. When all is said and done it will be the only building that was designed and built as originally intended which l believe ended up exceeding expectations.

Really, I don't understand how the thought process works. We've got a total of two towers built.

wilfredo267 · #**2829** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 6:27 PM**

Doesn't matter if two buildings are built so far. To me it still looks like there is a gaping hole between 4 and 1 everytime l walk down sixth avenue.

Hudson11 · #**2830** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by wilfredo267

Doesn't matter if two buildings are built so far. To me it still looks like there is a gaping hole between 4 and 1 everytime l walk down sixth avenue

there's always going to be a gap when viewing the WTC from the north.

wilfredo267 · #**2831** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 6:46 PM**

Yeah l know its just that l think that 2 is the signature tower and it would be shame if they cut its height. l hope that doesn't happen.

Hudson11 · #**2832** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 6:54 PM**

it isn't the signature tower though, that's 1 WTC. It may be everyone's favorite tower, but that doesn't mean it's not subject to design changes. I doubt the height and design will be altered much because 2 WTC, like 1 WTC has symbolic features. The whole point of the sloped top and diamonds was to be a gesture towards the memorial below. It also would probably be difficult to alter the height without messing up the slope on top.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork · #**2833** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 7:47 PM**

If two wtc is touched this site will be nothing more than a scar that not only Show the tragedy of 9/11 but how we couldnt mend the would. Stop value engineering such a symbolic site.

NYC GUY · #**2834** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 8:17 PM**

I highly doubt they'd change this tower. Your all fretting over something that probably won't happen.

Zapatan · #**2835** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

I'd take a height reduction, so long as they don't touch the diamonds. That's the best part.

I wouldn't... any shorter and the tower would look stupid with the others just like the new 3WTC does.

I can't say I have my hopes up for these two towers. Theoretically the government should have at least helped with the financing but that will never happen.

Everyone behind this project should rot in jail for the rest of their lives for the embarrassment they've caused this country... Durst included.

Zapatan · #**2836** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 9:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYC GUY

I highly doubt they'd change this tower. Your all fretting over something that probably won't happen.

I would bet money that they'll shorten it... they shortened 3WTC and took the radome off tower 1, they don't care about appearances.

MercurySky · #**2837** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 9:53 PM**

I don't like the diamonds and never really did. It takes true height away from a building that should fall just short of One World Trade Center. I would take the rectangular dimensions of the building straight up to the max. It would look better with a flattened top in my opinion.

Zapatan · #**2838** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by MercurySky

I don't like the diamonds and never really did. It takes true height away from a building that should fall just short of One World Trade Center. I would take the rectangular dimensions of the building straight up to the max. It would look better with a flattened top in my opinion.

I agree 100% it would make it a real solid 1270 foot building.

I've always felt 1WTC's tapering takes away from the building but gonna have to live with that I guess.

Submariner · #**2839** Posted **Feb 12, 2014, 10:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

I agree 100% it would make it a real solid 1270 foot building.

I've always felt 1WTC's tapering takes away from the building but gonna have to live with that I guess.

But look at the citi building - not only is it still a properly tall building, it's sloping roof is one of it's defining features.

cadiomals · #**2840** Posted **Feb 13, 2014, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by MercurySky

I don't like the diamonds and never really did. It takes true height away from a building that should fall just short of One World Trade Center. I would take the rectangular dimensions of the building straight up to the max. It would look better with a flattened top in my opinion.

Although you are entitled to your opinion, I respectfully disagree. The diamonds on 2WTC are its defining feature, its crown jewel. Getting rid of them would make it an extremely dull tower that looks no different from any other run-of-the-mill glass skyscraper, making the complex as a whole look much more dull (3 & 4 WTC are boring enough as it is). Not to mention it would overpower 1WTC with its sheer bulkiness if not for the tapering slope at the top. I have heard from many that 2WTC is their favorite tower solely because of the unique diamonds.