Homicide stats in Canadian Cities

[Darkoshvilli]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Worst mass killingsince 1956.

What the hell happened in 56?

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick

Since 1981, the highest murder rate in a Canadian city was in Ottawa, yes Ottawa, with a rate of 6.66 per 100k in 1985.

I don't have composite stats for all major Canadian cities prior to 1981 but have the record for Calgary: It was 7.3 per 100k, in 1978. 37 murders in a city of 505,000.

I suspect that you broke the record in Thunder Bay this year, but I don't know what other cities' records are before 1981, and it's completely possible that they, like Calgary, had higher murder rates in the 1970s than they have today. At any rate you can say that TB has the highest rate for a (major) Canadian city over the last 33 years.

If Ottawa had that rate this year, there would be about 65 murders in Ottawa in 2014. That would likely create enormous tensions with the police and local government.

[Airboy]

They didnt say what happened in 56 but the last time 9 people were killed in the region was back in the 1880s or 1890, a guy killer and eat 9 members of his family.

[Marty_Mcfly]

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

A young couple, both in their 20s, were found dead in a car in a lovers lane in suburban St. John's.

The police said the deaths are not suspicious, which suggests it was CO poisoning or something, but the grapevine suggests it was a murder/suicide.

http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&ID=51712

Lovers lane, how romantic.

Sounds to me like a double suicide, but I guess if it was a murder-suicide the police will let us know. Terribly sad, especially considering the time of year.

[thegx]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Worst mass killingsince 1956.

No, it's worse than that one.

[Xelebes]

Originally Posted by Airboy

They didnt say what happened in 56 but the last time 9 people were killed in the region was back in the 1880s or 1890, a guy killer and eat 9 members of his family.

The case of Swift Runner in 1879. Buffalo herds that winter, in a general trend across the prairies, were being thinned out as the railroads were being built, making it difficult to build rations for the winter. Five and a half years later the North West Rebellion takes place.

[thegx]

A history of mass murders in Canada

1879: Cree guide Swift Runner was responsible for Alberta’s deadliest mass murder. He killed nine people, all members of his own family, in the Fort Saskatchewan area.

1949: Albert Guay, considered Canada’s worst mass murderer, killed 23 people with an inflight bombing of a passenger aircraft that took off from Montreal. His target was his wife, who was among the dead.

1956: John Etter Clark, an Alberta MLA, shot and killed seven people on his family farm.

1959: Robert Raymond Cook killed his father, stepmother and their five children in Stettler.

1967: Victor Hoffman shot nine members of the Peterson family, including seven children, in Shell Lake, Sask.

1970: Dale Merle Nelson killed eight people at two separate homes in Creston, B.C. He was sentenced to life in prison in 1971.

1989: Marc Lépine murdered 14 women in a mass shooting at the École Polytechnique de Montréal, a tragedy widely known as the “Montreal massacre.”

1996: In Vernon, B.C. Mark Vijay Chahal killed his estranged wife and eight members of her family while they prepared for her sister’s upcoming wedding.

April 15, 2014: Four men and one woman, all in their 20s, died after being stabbed at a Brentwood home in Calgary’s worst mass murder. Matthew de Grood has been charged with five counts of first-degree murder in the case.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...464/story.html

[chris08876]

Video talking about the Edmonton shooting: http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/30/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2

[vid]

A look at Thunder Bay's 11 homicides of 2014: http://www.tbnewswatch.com/News/3663..._cases_of_2014

[Airboy]

There was another murder the same day as the mass murder but in Strathcona county just on the edge of Edmonton. That one was over shadowed by the big one. The police services and medical examinars office were tapped out so they did not do a major investigation for 24 hr. This one could be drug or gang related. Jeep in an industrial area was on fire 2 people inside one dead one sent to hospital.

I have a neighbour that deals with all unatural deaths and was informed the medical examinors office had people sleeping at thier desks because they were so busy.

[vid]

A second person was charged in Thunder Bay's 11th homicide this morning. That brings the total up to 19 people charged with murders committed in 2014. One homicide (a man who was burned to death at the tent city) saw 6 people charged, while a beating outside City Hall on Canada Day has 3 people charged and two more homicides (the latest, and the murder of a Fort Frances man in August) have two people charged. Only one homicide has yet to result in an arrest—a man found dead at a golf course, cause of death not released.

[thegx]

Calgary is up to 2 for 2015 already.

[travis3000]

Anyone care to do a synopsis of 2014 homicides in different Canadian cities. Like official numbers for Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Vancouver, etc

[vid]

This is from Thunder Bay's local news, not sure where they got their numbers from. It's been floating around Facebook for a couple days now. The things people are saying in response to it range from logical to absurd to terrifying.



The best (ie, stupidest) comment was that Toronto is the worst city for homicides because they had 57 of them and most of them involved guns. Thunder Bay's homicides just involved people's girlfriends, sons and boyfriends who had been drinking alcohol...

[Airboy]

Saw US stats this morning most cities are down to around 34 40 per 100,000 . But shooting were up. I think Huston had a 1000 shootings. Make the Canadain numbers look fantastic.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Airboy

Saw US stats this morning most cities are down to around 34 40 per 100,000 . But shooting were up. I think Huston had a 1000 shootings. Make the Canadain numbers look fantastic.

Check the numbers for places like San Pedro Sula, Honduras; Caracas, Venezuela; or Durban, South Africa. It can be a tough world out there.

[biguc]

Originally Posted by vid

This is from Thunder Bay's local news, not sure where they got their numbers from. It's been floating around Facebook for a couple days now. The things people are saying in response to it range from logical to absurd to terrifying.



The best (ie, stupidest) comment was that Toronto is the worst city for homicides because they had 57 of them and most of them involved guns. Thunder Bay's homicides just involved people's girlfriends, sons and boyfriends who had been drinking alcohol...

I want to take a second to laugh at Thunder Bay local news. Murders "Per Capita"? Do they understand that for a city to have 9 murders per capita, each person in that city would have to be murdered 9 times? Never mind the lunacy of something like "3.51 murders per capita". It's bad enough that each person gets murdered three times, but how do you 51% murder someone?


Their numbers are wrong too. Winnipeg had 25 murders in 2014, which actually leads to a higher murder rate per 100k people than their "per capita" number. And based on 35 murders, Edmonton's 100k rate is even higher than Winnipeg's. I can only assume they used Edmonton and Winnipeg's metro populations, which is exactly the kind of fuck up I'd expect from people who don't understand what per capita means.

It's no surprise the comments you're reading are stupid, vid, when dumb-dumbs like that put out the news. Mind telling me what station it was so I can personally make fun of the bone heads?

[trebor204]

I wonder if would make sense to have an adjusted murder rate (as well as an actual rate). You had a lot of mass murders last year.

You had 3 RCMP offers shot in Moncton
The stabbings in Calgary that left 5 dead
and the shooting last week in Edmonton that left 8 dead.
If there was a mass murder count it as one murder with the adjusted rate.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by trebor204

I wonder if would make sense to have an adjusted murder rate (as well as an actual rate). You had a lot of mass murders last year.

You had 3 RCMP offers shot in Moncton
The stabbings in Calgary that left 5 dead
and the shooting last week in Edmonton that left 8 dead.
If there was a mass murder count it as one murder with the adjusted rate.

Like a homicide group discount?

[vid]

Originally Posted by biguc

I want to take a second to laugh at Thunder Bay local news. Murders "Per Capita"? Do they understand that for a city to have 9 murders per capita, each person in that city would have to be murdered 9 times? Never mind the lunacy of something like "3.51 murders per capita". It's bad enough that each person gets murdered three times, but how do you 51% murder someone?


Their numbers are wrong too. Winnipeg had 25 murders in 2014, which actually leads to a higher murder rate per 100k people than their "per capita" number. And based on 35 murders, Edmonton's 100k rate is even higher than Winnipeg's. I can only assume they used Edmonton and Winnipeg's metro populations, which is exactly the kind of fuck up I'd expect from people who don't understand what per capita means.

It's no surprise the comments you're reading are stupid, vid, when dumb-dumbs like that put out the news. Mind telling me what station it was so I can personally make fun of the bone heads?

It was CKPR, part of the Dougall Media empire which owns both local TV stations, a weekly newspaper, and 5 radio stations in the region. Over half of the news articles read by Thunder Bayers are produced by that company.

No one in the comments even noticed that it said "per capita" and not "per 100,000".