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Zerton · #**5121** Posted **Feb 13, 2020, 4:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by gramsjdg

IIRC weren't the spires on 3 there from the start?

Yes, from the start. The cross-bracing was also originally proposed on Tower 3.

Only Tower 4 stayed pretty much the same from initial rendering release to now.

O-tacular · #**5122** Posted **Feb 13, 2020, 11:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zerton

Yes, from the start. The cross-bracing was also originally proposed on Tower 3.

Only Tower 4 stayed pretty much the same from initial rendering release to now.

Probably because it was the most boring and cheapest to build.

BK1985 · #**5123** Posted **Feb 14, 2020, 4:33 AM**

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Probably because it was the most boring and cheapest to build.

4 WTC cost 1.67 Billion to build, There's nothing cheap about it. I quite like it, not every tower has to have every single gimmick tacked on to be nice.

O-tacular · #**5124** Posted **Feb 14, 2020, 3:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by BK1985

4 WTC cost 1.67 Billion to build, There's nothing cheap about it. I quite like it, not every tower has to have every single gimmick tacked on to be nice.

That's insane! How much of that was for security related fortifications?

BoM Trespasser · #**5125** Posted **Feb 14, 2020, 9:23 PM**

The cladding on 4WTC is very high quality. Also, the building uses fuel cells to generate electricity. Just read wiki to get informed about it. I have a feeling you may need to google fuel cells too. But that's okay.

Lincolnlover2005 · #**5126** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 7:19 PM**

Right now the Twin Towers are rolling in their desecrated gravesites. If Yamasaki saw the replacements to HIS towers, he would be absolutely disgusted

SkyHigher · #**5127** Posted **Feb 16, 2020, 8:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lincolnlover2005

Right now the Twin Towers are rolling in their desecrated gravesites. If Yamasaki saw the replacements to HIS towers, he would be absolutely disgusted

Have to agree. In hindsight perhaps they should have built a more modern version of The Twins (to avoid direct comparisons) and made them 1776ft roof height.

But hey Larry and co know best.....

Zapatan · #**5128** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 2:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lincolnlover2005

Right now the Twin Towers are rolling in their desecrated gravesites. If Yamasaki saw the replacements to HIS towers, he would be absolutely disgusted

I agree to a certain extent, but the current towers are so much better than some of the previous designs (900ft towers with hideous latticework) that I think a nice looking 2 and 5 WTC will make this a pretty kick ass complex.

I hope the city doesn't make the 1776 height sacred or anything and surpasses it someday soon. Good to see some buildings are already doing so roof wise.

TowerDude · #**5129** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 7:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by SkyHigher

Have to agree. In hindsight perhaps they should have built a more modern version of The Twins (to avoid direct comparisons) and made them 1776ft roof height.

But hey Larry and co know best.....

1 World Trade was never Larry's to begin with,. That's the Port Authority and later a percentage went to the Durst Organization)

Larry had 7, 2, 3, 4 and 5

uaarkson · #**5130** Posted **Feb 17, 2020, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lincolnlover2005

Right now the Twin Towers are rolling in their desecrated gravesites. If Yamasaki saw the replacements to HIS towers, he would be absolutely disgusted

Oh, so you know the thoughts of a long-dead architect?

SSP attracts the worst kind of autistics.

InTheLoopFromNYC · #**5131** Posted **Feb 18, 2020, 12:18 AM**

[QUOTE=SkyHigher;8833083]Have to agree. In hindsight perhaps they should have built a more modern version of The Twins (to avoid direct comparisons) and made them 1776ft roof height...

Yeah, building a replacement set of twins would definitely have eliminated any direct comparisons with the originals!

SkyHigher · #**5132** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by TowerDude

1 World Trade was never Larry's to begin with,. That's the Port Authority and later a percentage went to the Durst Organization)

Larry had 7, 2, 3, 4 and 5

Which is why I said 'Larry and co'

SkyHigher · #**5133** Posted **Feb 20, 2020, 2:00 AM**

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Oh, so you know the thoughts of a long-dead architect?

SSP attracts the worst kind of autistics.

Oh, so you think a visionary such as Yamasaki would be impressed by the new complex?

SSP attracts the worst kind of mental illness.

uaarkson · #**5134** Posted **Feb 20, 2020, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkyHigher

Oh, so you think a visionary such as Yamasaki would be impressed by the new complex?

SSP attracts the worst kind of mental illness.

Who cares? He's dead, and so is his awful school of architecture. Get over it. The Twin Towers were a scar on the city's landscape.

RockMont · #**5135** Posted **Feb 20, 2020, 10:23 PM**

The originals were never spectacular in terms of creativity, being two large boxes, but I must admit there was a sense of beauty, because of their size and height, and had their own special trademark to them. Now I'll admit in the beginning, I would have liked to have them back, but I knew in today's economy that design was likely not economically feasible. Now as far as the concept that Leibeskind initially proposed, was a nightmare. In my mind that was ugly, and well the powers that be apparently felt the same way, and I do like the #1 tower the best for the reason that it is as tall as the originals, and #3,4 are nice looking also. Now as far as #2 and #5 are concerned, I expect some equally pragmatic and realistic designs. I actually like the idea behind the diamond shaped roof, while not my favourite type of design, but it's idea had something to do with the angle of the sun as it is on that particular date, (September 11) shining light toward the memorial pools, I believe it was which is creative, but whatever is built there hopefully will either be of that type of significance or some other creative innovative design, even if it is another "box".

NYguy · #**5136** Posted **Feb 21, 2020, 12:46 AM**

You people still fighting about the Twin Towers???

Meanwhile, 3 WTC is filling up, so it's a matter of time before tower 2 takes the stage...

https://rew-online.com/private-equit...nked-to-3-wtc/

by REW
February 20, 2020

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3 World Trade Center, New York City’s fifth-tallest tower and newest office building to open in the World Trade Center campus, is now over 80% leased. Blue Wolf Capital will join tenants GroupM, Hudson River Trading, IEX, Uber, Diageo, Casper, Hana and Better.com.

NYguy · #**5137** Posted **Feb 21, 2020, 12:59 AM**

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8xIJ7rpO5a/

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Our proposal for Two World Trade Center

JMKeynes · #**5138** Posted **Feb 21, 2020, 1:14 AM**

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https://www.instagram.com/p/B8xIJ7rpO5a/

Thank God that these morons will not be involved with the project and Foster will be.

NYguy · #**5139** Posted **Feb 21, 2020, 1:18 AM**

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Thank God that these morons will not be involved with the project and Foster will be.

Frankly, I don't see a huge difference. In fact, when I first saw it, I thought it was inspired by the Foster design, from the diamond top to the facade.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAD

JMKeynes · #**5140** Posted **Feb 21, 2020, 1:33 AM**

I don’t see the diamond top.

P.S.: I looked at it quickly and now realize that the western facade, where the sloped roof would be, is not shown.