noirish Los Angeles

[Godzilla]

Paul de Longpre and his daughter, near (or at) their residence.
http://collections.theautry.org/MWEB...ll/P_36443.jpg

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1899
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073903.jpg



1906
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073908.jpg





1741 N. Cahuenga Blvd
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...elongpre-1.jpg


1908 De Longpre residence
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...1600/snip1.JPG


1905 - A De Longpre sampling
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics46/00072907.jpg




1927 - Bye Bye!
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070858.jpg

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's a handsome Orangeade/Popcorn stand.


old file of mine/probably ebay

The street number is visible, but I don't know what street. What's a bit odd is that the sidewalk looks like a boardwalk.
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1937 - Bireley's Orangeade bottling plant at 1127 N. Mansfield Avenue in Hollywood
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047073.jpg


1937 - Inside the plant

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046892.jpg



1937
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047074.jpg


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg5Nj...iFg~~60_35.JPG

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8088/8...a5578079_z.jpg


http://www.scripophily.com/webcart/vigs/bireley1vig.jpg


http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/299428...C09355_001.JPG

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Robert Inman

Said to be an original color shot of the Simons at Wilshire and Fairfax. Gorgeous.

1939 - Soon-to-be Simon's at Sunset and Highland
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101363.jpg

[Godzilla]

This windshield view looking north on Highland at Cahuenga captures a woman holding a dog in her lap in the passenger seat, two police officers speaking to two different cars at a police checkpoint, and surrounding businesses like the Los Angeles Pet Cemetery (2500 North Highland) and signs including a Coca Cola billboard. This area has changed due to the 101 freeway.

1938 - Police Checkpoint. (Not clear what is being checked, sobriety?)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00099/00099531.jpg


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics30/00064558.jpg

[ethereal_reality]

Since we've been discussing the 'out of bounds' gay venues of the 1940s and 50s,
I thought I'd post about Bob Mizer's AMG (Athletic Model Guild) Studio.

AMG (note the fake grass)

http://www.bigkugels.com/content/AMGMizer.html


Surprisingly, his studio was located at his mother's residence in Los Angeles.

I finally found her address (along with Bob and his younger brother Joseph) in the 1942 L.A. City Directory.


lapl




Here mother Delia Mizer is listed just below the Athletic Model Guild in the 1956 directory.




1834 W. 11th Street today

GSV

...but what intrigued most about the AMG photographs was that many were taken on a rooftop, often with fake grass-like carpeting and faux rocks.


Here are some examples:

astro turf?

https://physiquepictorial.wordpress....c-model-guild/




in vivid color

https://physiquepictorial.wordpress....c-model-guild/



high rooftop walls (it's difficult to see, but the top of the wall is near his arms)

http://bobmizerfoundation.org/4h2z2o...nvufyc7meak8hg



At first I was perplexed & disappointed that 1834 W. 11th didn't have a roof-top that would accommodate these photographs.



until I looked again at Delia's address.


google_earth


I then noticed that the flat-roofed building next to 1834 W. 11th is located on the same property.


google_earth

The flat-roof 'rental' seems to have built in front of the original garages for Delia's home. (the curb on 11th also shows this)
(the cement with squares makes it fairly obvious that this is one property)



I believe the spartan building next door is the location for these roof-top muscle fantasies.



In the 1942 directory Delia was listed as h1834, while Bob and Joseph were at r1834.
-so the h meant home, and the r meant rental? (you guys probably already knew this)




another example of the high wall

http://bobmizerfoundation.org/4h2z2o...nvufyc7meak8hg


with faux rocks




And here's the photograph with the most clues. (it's from a transparency...so there's a possibility it could be flipped)



I've been trying to locate the turret that appears behind the model.
-the other great clue is the utility pole (it's visible in the current street view), and the shadows along the wall. (a rather tall vent)



There are many turrets in the area (thanks to Bonnie Brae)

I've circled (what I consider) the location of these AMG photographs.

gsv



further on the same block of B. Brae

gsv


on 11th..very close to the flat-roof building (the turret is difficult to see)

gsv




the shadow in this aerial shows that the perimeter wall was/is quite high. (I've marked it with an arrow)



-a few more examples...

roof-top

http://malemodelsvintagebeefcake.blo...9888955b6cad14



note where he's standing

http://malemodelsvintagebeefcake.blo...9888955b6cad14



and here is the 'key' photo flipped. (so is this correct? at this point I've confused even myself )


http://malemodelsvintagebeefcake.blo...9888955b6cad14

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[FredH]

Safeway store, 1257 North Western Avenue, Los Angeles, CA, 1940


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/88261/rec/23


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/88261/rec/23

Let's check the cooler

Brown Derby Ale and Rainier Ale?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/88261/rec/23

Eastside Lager and Falstaff

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/88261/rec/23

Brown Derby Beer and Excell Pale Beer

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/88261/rec/23


Prices were good!

[Lorendoc]

It's good that memories like rick_m's are being preserved in archives. It seems as though there might be living people who remember Joly's Restaurant and Grill.

I chased the place back through city directories. It turned out to have lasted 40 years, plus or minus, at 117 S. Western - a remarkably long run in a city known for its transience. More surprising still is that it could survive catering to the social pariahs of the time. I am sure the LAPD knew (and maybe were paid off by) the owners.


LAPL.org

The County Assessor's map indicates the building dates from 1920. The first Sanborn map dates from a year later:


LAPL.org

The city directories put a series of clothes and hat manufacturers at 117 S. Western through World War II.

A couple of years after Joly's opened, the Sanborn people made another map:


LAPL.org

As can be seen, the neighborhood was filling in.

Today, I would say that 117 S. Western has seen better days:


GSV

There is some irony that the contemporary owners of "LED Emerald" have felt it necessary to post a warning sign that customers are being filmed. The LAPD may have done their own filming of Joly's customers back in the day.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Since we've been discussing the 'out of bounds' gay venues of the 1940s and 50s,
I thought I'd post about Bob Mizer's AMG (Athletic Model Guild) Studio.

Surprisingly, his studio was located at his mother's residence in Los Angeles.

I finally found her address (along with Bob and his younger brother Joseph) in the 1942 L.A. City Directory.

1834 W. 11th Street today

GSV

...but what intrigued most about the AMG photographs was that many were taken on a rooftop, often with fake grass-like carpeting and faux rocks.

At first I was perplexed & disappointed that 1834 W. 11th didn't have a roof-top that would accommodate these photographs.

until I looked again at Delia's address.

I then noticed that the flat-roofed building next to 1834 W. 11th is located on the same property.


google_earth

The flat-roof 'rental' seems to have built in front of the original garages for Delia's home. (the curb on 11th also shows this)
(the cement with squares makes it fairly obvious that this is one property)

I believe the spartan building next door is the location for these roof-top muscle fantasies.

I think the rooftop is easier to see in this 45 degree view - it's the one with the blue tarpaulin. I tried looking at the area on Historic Aerials, hoping the 1948 or 1952 images might show the faux rocks, but they were too blurry to see anything of interest.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

In the 1942 directory Delia was listed as h1834, while Bob and Joseph were at r1834.
-so the h meant home, and the r meant rental? (you guys probably already knew this)

It's never a bad idea to look at the "Abbreviations" page in the CDs, as some are quite obscure. The difference between the "h" and "r" abbreviations is specifically spelled out in the 1923 CD.


LAPL

The 1942 CD has many more abbreviations, and the meaning of "r" has expanded to include "roomer".


LAPL

[Lwize]

Noir sleuths:

I had dinner last night at Warszawa Polish Restaurant at 1414 Lincoln Blvd., Santa Monica, CA 90401

http://www.warszawarestaurant.com/index.html

The restaurant was converted from an old home into a restaurant in the late 1970's. From Google, the old home's roof still exists.

Does anyone have exterior pictures of the home before the conversion?

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Since we've been discussing the 'out of bounds' gay venues of the 1940s and 50s,
I thought I'd post about Bob Mizer's AMG (Athletic Model Guild) Studio.



http://malemodelsvintagebeefcake.blo...9888955b6cad14

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Bob Mizer got over 10,000 men to take their clothes off for FREE and pose in front of his camera. How did he do it? He offered to make them stars.

Here's the clever contract they had to sign. Was the AMG studio a scam? Of course it was but everyone had fun along the way.

I attended one of Bob's free Saturday Night movie screenings inside the Studio. They had very high security. You had to buzz the door, someone peeked out through a little hole in the door to see if you were a cop.



Of the 10K men photographed at AMG, about 5 ever made it into the movies. One was Dennis Cole....here he is, many years ago at AMG. Oh btw, Bob Mizer's mom made those little jewel pouches on her sewing machine. Such a thoughtful and helpful mom.

amgamg

Dennis Cole 1940-2009

file img

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Lorendoc

It's good that memories like rick_m's are being preserved in archives. It seems as though there might be living people who remember Joly's Restaurant and Grill.

I chased the place back through city directories. It turned out to have lasted 40 years, plus or minus, at 117 S. Western - a remarkably long run in a city known for its transience. More surprising still is that it could survive catering to the social pariahs of the time. I am sure the LAPD knew (and maybe were paid off by) the owners.


LAPL.org

The County Assessor's map indicates the building dates from 1920.

The city directories put a series of clothes and hat manufacturers at 117 S. Western through World War II.

The picture below shows Western Avenue between 1st Street and 2nd Street in October 1924. It was previously posted by e_r in post #9699, when it was part of a discussion about the Wilshire Fireproof Storage Co and fire station on the right.


USC Digital Library

On the left of the street, it's just possible to see a sign saying "MILLINERY" at 117 S Western Avenue - one of the hat manufacturers mentioned by Lorendoc. The 1926 CD says the business was owned by Mrs Della Dalton. The picture also shows a "GRILL" sign next door. This appears to have belonged to a restaurant owned by Thomas Zes at 115 S Western Avenue. On the left, I think the "CANDY" sign with the name "TEDDY'S" was probably the confectionery store at 123 S Western Avenue owned by Theodore Cocores. The sign to its left is hard to make out, but looking through the City Directories, I think it says "Magasinn's Dept Store", a dry goods establishment owned by Julius Magasinn (a great name for a store owner as "magasin" is French for shop or store!). Incidentally, 117 S Western Avenue was the Wing Sun laundry in the 1942 CD.


Detail of picture above.

One thing I missed when I first saw the full picture is that the "HOLLYWOODLAND" sign is visible in the distance above the buildings on the left.


Detail of picture above.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

1937 - Bireley's Orangeade bottling plant at 1127 N. Mansfield Avenue in Hollywood
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047073.jpg

Makes 10 cups of Orangeade

INGREDIENTS:
2 cups water
1 1/2 cups white sugar
6 cups water
1 1/2 cups freshly squeezed orange juice
1/3 cup freshly squeezed lemon juice
DIRECTIONS:
1. Bring 2 cups water and sugar to a boil in a small saucepan; cook at a boil for 3 minutes, stirring to dissolve sugar, and creating a simple syrup.
2. Combine simple syrup, 6 cups water, orange juice, and lemon juice in a large pitcher; refrigerate until cold.

Its too sweet for me but some people like it.

[ethereal_reality]

1963

found on ebay

At first glance I thought the car on the left had a flat tire or worn out springs, but then I noticed the car on the opposite side of the street leaning in the opposite direction.
So what's up with this street? I know streets slant down to the curb but this seems somewhat excessive.

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[ethereal_reality]

The Eagle Theater, 4884 Eagle Rock Boulevard, 1940


http://www.historypin.com/attach/uid...6/tab:details/



in the 1970s or 80s

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1145





The building is still there....now occupied by a church.

GSV



While rechecking my info. I found out the theater was originally the Yosemite Theater.
(it's located on the corner of Eagle Rock blvd. and Yosemite Drive, hence the name)

1929

http://www.historypin.com/attach/uid...0/tab:details/

The theater had a Mediterranean motif featuring an azure glen on the walls
and a starry sky on an azure ceiling. It had 900 seats (I'm surprised, I would have guessed half as many).



1930

http://www.historypin.com/attach/uid...2/tab:details/

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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The Eagle Theater, 4884 Eagle Rock Boulevard, 1940


http://www.historypin.com/attach/uid...6/tab:details/
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Hey thanks ER for posting this photo.
That doorman standing there reminds me of my first job at age 17. I was a theater doorman for two years. It was tons of fun and I met a lot of interesting people...including a couple of movie stars.

The theater seated over 3K people and they had sneak previews about once a month. Jack Warner [of Warner Bros.] would arrive in his black Cadillac limo with cans of film in the trunk. The chauffeur would tip one of us when we carried the film inside. The audience was never told the name of the film before the show. When the preview was over I drove the cans of film back to the studio so they could re-edit the film for general release.

Fortunately I was off work the night the theater was robbed at gunpoint of over $27,000. Most of the staff was tied up with wire and locked in the restroom. They made the manager open the safe and the bank guard opened the lower safe. The robbers were never caught.


Jack Warner


warner bros image

[ethereal_reality]

You're welcome cbd.



Bird's Eye View from Elysian Park, 1890s? 1900s?




found on ebay


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[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I attended one of Bob's free Saturday Night movie screenings inside the Studio.

I'm assuming you saw one of Mizer's films?

Was this place where the photos posted above are located?

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Of the 10K men photographed at AMG, about 5 ever made it into the movies.

I've been recently watching the Burke's Law television series and found out that one of the series leads was also an AMG model.
Gary Conway. He also starred in Land of the Giants.

Here he is when he was 19 in 1956 or 1957 and known as Gary Carmody.

[Martin Pal]

Nice eye on the Hollywoodland sign in the above post HossC.

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

That doorman standing there reminds me of my first job at age 17. I was a theater doorman for two years. It was tons of fun and I met a lot of interesting people...including a couple of movie stars.

You must tell us whom?

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Fortunately I was off work the night the theater was robbed at gunpoint of over $27,000.

Hmmm...were you a suspect?

[HossC]

I was actually looking for pictures of Lwize's Polish restaurant when I came across this picture. The title is "Automobile on Lincoln Boulevard south of Venice Boulevard, May 27, 1934".


USC Digital Library

I did think about doing a "then and now" picture, but nothing survives. Then the little tower above the roof of the car caught my attention. I assume the car belongs to the photographer, because there's no one behind the wheel.


Detail of picture above.

A quick look at the 1952 image on Historic Aerials shows that the tower belongs to the grandstand of a racetrack.


Historic Aerials

Flyingwedge mentioned the track in post #20240, and included some great links. The Culver City Kennel Club built the track for greyhound races in 1932, but it closed in 1934 or 1935 (depending on which source you read). It was later used for midget racing. One of Flyingwedge's links, Mabel Normand and Her Whippet, says that "the track was torn down in 1954; it became the site of the Hughes Helicopter Company, later McDonnell Douglas helicopter plant, and still later the headquarters for the 1984 Olympics." The picture below is part of a 1961 aerial, and shows one of the helicopter plants. This view is looking roughly south.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

The site is now occupied by a Costco and an Albertsons.


Google Maps

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You're welcome cbd.



Bird's Eye View from Elysian Park, 1890s? 1900s?




found on ebay


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