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Old Posted Jun 10, 2014, 11:57 PM
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Boston Dry Goods and Newmark Buildings

For years I wondered what the two one-story buildings just north of the Byrne Building were originally. It never dawned on me that they might be the remains of the Boston Dry Goods and H. Newmark buildings, both built in the 1890s. Maybe someone can confirm this and if so, when were they reduced to one story. There was also a two-story building right next to the Byrne Building which is long gone.




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This is a composite of two photos showing both buildings.


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1910 Baist Map showing both buildings


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Old Posted Jun 11, 2014, 1:01 AM
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You're correct WS1911. Great post!
I've heard that these two one story buildings were truncated versions of earlier buildings.
Somewhere in my files I have information about a 'fair' that was held in the upper floors of the Boston Dry Goods Store.
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A closer look at the buildings on the right.

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For years I wondered what the two one-story buildings just north of the Byrne Building were originally. It never dawned on me that they might be the remains of the Boston Dry Goods and H. Newmark buildings, both built in the 1890s. Maybe someone can confirm this and if so, when were they reduced to one story. There was also a two-story building right next to the Byrne Building which is long gone.


Both above GSV


This is a composite of two photos showing both buildings.


Water and Power (left) Wikimedia (right)


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The best thing to do to understand the reduction would be to go down to DBS and pull their permit history. The City Assessor's website says the wedding chapel is 1895 and its neighbor the-former-Goodwill as 1899, so, original buildings.

Until you have all the details, here's a little something --

1958:
huntington

1965:
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2014, 3:25 AM
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The best thing to do to understand the reduction would be to go down to DBS and pull their permit history. The City Assessor's website says the wedding chapel is 1895 and its neighbor the-former-Goodwill as 1899, so, original buildings.

Until you have all the details, here's a little something --

1958:
huntington

1965:
huntington

Beaudry - Thank you! I knew someone would come up with information. The two photos you posted were great and satisfy my curiosity. I won’t dig into exact dates.

I discovered the Bradbury Building when I was a teenager in the 1960s and probably saw both of these buildings but don’t remember them. I’ve observed that these two and dozens of older buildings downtown had their parapet walls removed. The Bradbury’s parapet has not been restored and I would sure like to see it replicated. It would make the roofline more finished.

There are dozens of now nondescript one-story buildings downtown with brick side and back walls. I wonder what their histories are.

ER - Maybe you could post a link on the information about the "fair" in the Boston Dry Goods building.

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along with a lot of misapplication. We have a lot of almost pointless gadgets that may well be eating us alive from the inside out.
I hear you on how the kind of progress seen by the World War I generation seems to have stalled out.

OTOH I have to say I'm grateful for the gadgets. When I was a kid we didn't have them--or at least the kind of devices I think you mean--but the museums were free. Today it's usually at least ten bucks to get in and another sawbuck or two just to park the car. Being able to download pictures and other information on your PC or smartphone doesn't entirely replace the accessibility to museums, but it certainly offers some consolation.
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Oooh, cool! There's 224 South Olive up on Bunker Hill in the background. August, 1965 – that would make this the latest-dated photo of the place I've yet seen. Judging by the laundry that's hung out to dry on the porch of the bottom floor flat, it looks to be still occupied at the time, too.
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Is this Los Angeles?

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This view is looking northeast across the NW corner of Hope and 12th--the Fra Apartments is in the background. The Chandler dealer was at 1144 S Hope...




LAT June 9, 1909/Nov 1, 1917/Oct 4, 1914


Within a few years, Chandlers were being sold around the corner at 1100 S Flower in a building apparently replacing a nursery; while the Fra auctioned its contents in 1917, it was still listed in the 1973 phone book...



LAT Oct 14, 1923/July 13, 1919

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Old Posted Jun 11, 2014, 2:37 PM
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Really interesting information GW, thanks. Do you think that box on the corner is for parking tickets?
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WS1911, I don't have a link to the international fair I mentioned (in the Boston Store). It's in my files. I'm searching for it now.

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1901 - Sweet Peas at "about" Sunset and Fairfax.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics27/00033468.jpg
Interesting, I don't recall ever seeing any sweet peas in Los Angeles.
In upstate New York my parents used to grow them around our property.
They're very colorful and the more you pick them, the more they grow.
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1910 Baist Map showing both buildings


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Here are a few more pictures of Broadway between 2nd and 3rd. I'll start with an undated shot of the California Bank Building. Check out Beaudry's previous post about these buildings here.


Huntington Digital Library

A longer shot of the old B F Coulter Building in 1953. FredH recently posted another pre-demolition picture here.


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The old B F Coulter Building had gone by 1954. The Million Dollar Theater can be seen in the background.


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This is the parking lot created by the demolition of the B F Coulter Building, seen here in 1959. A couple of buildings on Hill and Olive are visible through the gap.


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I thought I'd turn this last shot into a "then and now".


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Old Posted Jun 11, 2014, 5:15 PM
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Broadway between 2nd and 3rd

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Here are a few more pictures of Broadway between 2nd and 3rd. I'll start with an undated shot of the California Bank Building. Check out Beaudry's previous post about these buildings here.


Huntington Digital Library

Thanks for posting these great pictures. In the above photo, the Bicknell building is not there. I think it was put up around 1890-92 right next to the Potomac Block, thus dating the photo. I was a kid in the 1950s and just too young to get around and see all these wonderful old buildings at the end of their lives.

Two of my very favorite structures were the California Bank building and the Bryson Block. They were such picturesque buildings with their bay windows, towers and profuse decoration. And I think they were designed by one or both of the Newsom brothers.

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Here's a detailed description of the interior of the Boston Store from the Oct. 4, 1895 Los Angeles Herald.






http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

The 'fair' I mentioned was probably put on by the wholesalers on the Fourth floor.



http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1


http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1



http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1


To read the entire article (that includes a detailed description of the facade) go here:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1




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-origins of Country Club Drive, Burbank


Here are some of the cabins located on the country club grounds.


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some homes along C C Drive


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I tried to find the remnants of the original Sunset Canyon Club House using Google Earth but I didn't have much luck.

This was an interesting area. Country Club Drive eventually led to Sunset Basin Road

Google Earth

I guess this is for run-off after heavy rains.

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Back in the 1970's, a young woman I worked with in Burbank, owned one of the old cabins along Country Club Drive. It definately had charm, in a rustic sort of way. Very narrow canyon, as I recall.

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Historical Walks

Hi guys and I hope all of you are well. I've been a member on the page for a while, but have never had an opportunity to post. I love all of the historic discussions and images. I produce a local news series and among all of the subjects we cover, we do a segment where L.A. (mostly old L.A.) is celebrated called "Raul's L.A." The reporter, Raul Moreno, is also a member here as well. I thought I'd post one of his segments for your enjoyment. In this one, his first with us, we head over to Angelino Heights. Enjoy.

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Nicely done.



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Thanks for posting that, Engine54. I'm in the process of buying a Victorian house myself (and am a Victorian historian), so I have much love for that vintage.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2014, 11:34 PM
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I have a number of these historic pieces we've done and I'll start posting them for everyone's enjoyment. Those Victorian homes are just breathtaking.
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Yucky, yucky peas

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Interesting, I don't recall ever seeing any sweet peas in Los Angeles.
In upstate New York my parents used to grow them around our property.
They're very colorful and the more you pick them, the more they grow.
I live in upstate NY (Albany, to be exact), and I have a ton of sweet peas growing in my yard. Martin Pal is right....the more you pick them, the more they grow. Too bad I can't stand sweet peas!
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Oooh, cool! There's 224 South Olive[/URL] up on Bunker Hill in the background. August, 1965 – that would make this the latest-dated photo of the place I've yet seen. Judging by the laundry that's hung out to dry on the porch of the bottom floor flat, it looks to be still occupied at the time, too.

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7667/rec/15

Here is a little closer view:


http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7667/rec/15

I recognized the incinerator from this photo I posted a while back. This was taken from Clay Street in July,1961.


http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6274/rec/4
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Raul's L.A. was pretty good, I look forward to seeing more of him on L.A. Noir. Good stuff Chin, keep them coming.

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