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[ethereal_reality]

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I can't quite make out the name of the street...Sirhel?...Suhel?

[WS1911]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I can't quite make out the name of the street...Sirhel?...Suhel?

It's Sichel Street in Lincoln Heights. This 1880s house is still there minus the people in front. Outside stairs have been added, probably for a rental unit. Note the original front yard retaining wall. Hundreds of Victorian houses are still in the area.




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[ethereal_reality]

Oh that's great WS1911....another survivor!

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Gold Line bound for East Los Angeles

A Gold Line train bound for East Los Angeles crosses the 1st Street Bridge over the Los Angeles River on a Wednesday afternoon. Art Deco Sears tower in background, Signal Hill on the horizon. Nice shot of the L. A. River bridges.

Photo by Steve Hymon/Metro.

The depth of field in this photograph is quite remarkable MichaelRyerson.
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[MartinTurnbull]

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

You might want to consider the Villa Rosa apartments at 7850 Sunset Boulevard (SW corner N. Orange Grove). Although, I don't think the building is quite old enough to have been Big Suzy's.

From memory, that building did house a brothel (I'm thinking Brenda Allen or Lee Francis...?) but it's not old enough to have housed "Big Suzy." The period I'm talking about is the 1910s (Frank Westmore's book is annoying vague on dates).

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

oops!

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Classic case of too much car for an old lady. She should have been sold a Special, not a Century. In any case, '55 Buicks had notoriously weak "breaks"...





Beverly Hills was barely up and running by 1910--its population was probably not even a thousand in the 'teens, so Big Suzy's French Whorehouse would really have been hard to keep a secret. The town was all-new--it's not like it started out as an old Wild West town where there'd have been a good supply of painted ladies hanging on....

[Albany NY]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

These two ladies look like a fun duo.

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Let's not forget LA's other "fun girls," Skippy and Daphne from Mt. Pilot! Sorry, I couldn't resist!

ebay, photoshopped

(I'm guessing that only Andy Griffith Show geeks like me will get this.)

[Albany NY]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is such an amazing photograph / it's practically surreal.
Interior of a passenger rail car on it's way to California. 1880s


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Surreal is the perfect word for it. It's almost freaky knowing that every pair of eyes looking at you through the lens in long-since dead. Almost like a ghost train (movie idea??). I'm confused, though, by the extreme height of the train's roof. It looks like at least a 12-15 foot ceiling.

[CityBoyDoug]

Movie art director, Cedric Gibbons' gate to his home. Stainless steel. Over the top....way over.

Santa Monica estate features five bedrooms, six bathrooms, an office, a gym, a lighted tennis court, and separate staff/guest quarters. It's been listed at $12.45 million in the past.

Not true Art Deco style but rather a Futuristic Fantasist Dream.


Huff.Post.

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull

From memory, that building did house a brothel (I'm thinking Brenda Allen or Lee Francis...?) but it's not old enough to have housed "Big Suzy." The period I'm talking about is the 1910s (Frank Westmore's book is annoying vague on dates).

This apartment building was next door to one of the markets (the Sunfax) my father operated in and around Beverly Hills in the forties and fifties. While it was common for us to deliver groceries in the immediate neighborhood, the rule was box boys were not allowed to deliver to the Villa Rosa unless they went in pairs. No such limitation existed for the Garden of Allah. It wasn't until much later that I realized the rationale behind the rule. I believe the building may date to the twenties.


The SunFax Market, Sunset and Fairfax, 1933

The SunFax at Sunset and Fairfax. Villa Rosa apartments in background, left.

[MichaelRyerson]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The depth of field in this photograph is quite remarkable MichaelRyerson.
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Yeah, this guy was packing some great gear. I'd like to see the lens he used. Appears to have been taken from the roof of the MTA tower SW corner of Vignes and E. Cesar Chavez Boulevard and considering the attribution that would make perfect sense.

'Photo by Steve Hymon/Metro.'

[Krell58]

Originally Posted by Albany NY

Let's not forget LA's other "fun girls," Skippy and Daphne from Mt. Pilot! Sorry, I couldn't resist!

ebay, photoshopped

(I'm guessing that only Andy Griffith Show geeks like me will get this.)

Hello doll!!

[TMSteele]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Movie art director, Cedric Gibbons' gate to his home. Stainless steel. Over the top....way over.

Santa Monica estate features five bedrooms, six bathrooms, an office, a gym, a lighted tennis court, and separate staff/guest quarters. It's been listed at $12.45 million in the past.

Not true Art Deco style but rather a Futuristic Fantasist Dream.


Huff.Post.

This house is the best example of Streamline Moderne in L.A.
The steel gate is a recent addition, not Gibbon's. The front door is a slab of unique stainless metal. Gibbons designed this home for Delores Del Rio.

[Martin Pal]

Here’s a photo of Doheny and Santa Monica; 1937
LAPL

Here’s a photo of Doheny and Santa Monica; 1940's
LIFE Images

You would not see any cars turning right currently as it’s been a continuation of westbound traffic on Santa Monica as far back as I know.
There’s similar lanes for eastbound traffic on the other side of the track area.

Here’s a photo of Doheny and Santa Monica, 1980


Same area now, 2014


Way off to the right where you see the power pole--the road you see behind it is Melrose Ave. In E_R’s post the other day of the Academy Awards Theater—that’s where it was located,
probably where the building you can see is situated. The area you see between Melrose and Santa Monica is now called the Melrose Triangle and is most recently used for parking and
selling Christmas trees in the fall.



Here's an October 19, 2016, dashcam video of the intersection, beginning at Doheny Dr. and, after the light changes, it proceeds left (east) on Santa Monica Blvd. and travels down to just before Hancock Ave., your old street, E_R.
• Video Link

In the next photo you’re gong to see a Standard Oil gas station in the Melrose Triangle area.

Vintage Los Angeles (VLA)

VLA says this photo was taken by Dennis Hopper (no date) and he called it "Double Standard". You can see the Academy Awards Theater on Melrose on the far right.

The following photo is taken from the opposite direction:

Wojcik/VLA

It’s estimated to be from 1965. The P.E. tracks used for freight trains are still in place. You can see part of the Standard Gas Station on the left at the Melrose/Doheny/Santa Monica Blvd. intersection.
On the right you can make out Doug Weston’s Troubadour and Dan Tana’s Restaurant, although they have different signs than the now recognizable ones…Doug Weston’s name is absent and the
restaurant is smaller and just called Tana’s.

Here’s a 1940’s view of when P.E. cars still ran and Dan Tana’s was known as Domenico’s Lucky Horseshoe Café.

VLA

A photo taken a few blocks away in 1972 on Santa Monica near La Cienega when the tracks were being removed altogether.
(The Holloway Motel and IHOP on the right are still there.)

Torrence/Hollywood Photographs

Back at the Melrose Triangle area, the view today from the park with the fountain: You can see artwork (always changing) on the median which also is a pedestrian area for running or walking.
You can see the art deco veternarian hospital in the background, previously discussed.

(FYI: I’ve never seen ANYONE on that path, although I walked down it once myself.



The view tomorrow?
This is what the City of West Hollywood is proposing to foist upon the Melrose Triangle area.



more here: http://www.wehoville.com/2014/02/27/...-gateway-weho/

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Movie art director, Cedric Gibbons' gate to his home. Stainless steel. Over the top....way over.

Santa Monica estate features five bedrooms, six bathrooms, an office, a gym, a lighted tennis court, and separate staff/guest quarters. It's been listed at $12.45 million in the past.

Not true Art Deco style but rather a Futuristic Fantasist Dream.


Huff.Post.

(toward bottom of post) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17616

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

This is dated 1948, but no location.
It looks to me like the building on the corner of Santa Monica Blvd. and Doheny.

B.Torrence@H.P.

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Here's what it looks like now:



Here’s another photo of Doheny and Santa Monica; 1940's
LIFE Images

You would not see any cars turning right currently as it’s been a continuation of westbound traffic on Santa Monica as far back as I know.
There’s similar lanes for eastbound traffic on the other side of the track area.

Same area now:

Val's Coffee Shop was listed at 8875 Santa Monica Blvd in the 1951 phone book, the NE corner of San Vicente (building replaced)... and given its smaller individual and delicately framed windows and the rosettes, the current building couldn't be the one with the PE car and the Cadillac...

[jg6544]

Originally Posted by Albany NY

Surreal is the perfect word for it. It's almost freaky knowing that every pair of eyes looking at you through the lens in long-since dead. Almost like a ghost train (movie idea??). I'm confused, though, by the extreme height of the train's roof. It looks like at least a 12-15 foot ceiling.

Could have been a Pullman car - the upper berths are all folded up, giving it that tent-like appearance.

[Martin Pal]

Thanks, GW, re: your response above. I see that you are correct. I am going to eliminate that from the first part of the post.

The store that is located on the NE corner where Val's Coffee Shop was located at 8875 Santa Monica Blvd. is now "Don't Panic" and has taken the address of 802 N. San Vicente Blvd.

[MartinTurnbull]

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

This apartment building was next door to one of the markets (the Sunfax) my father operated in and around Beverly Hills in the forties and fifties. While it was common for us to deliver groceries in the immediate neighborhood, the rule was box boys were not allowed to deliver to the Villa Rosa unless they went in pairs. No such limitation existed for the Garden of Allah. It wasn't until much later that I realized the rationale behind the rule. I believe the building may date to the twenties.


The SunFax Market, Sunset and Fairfax, 1933

The SunFax at Sunset and Fairfax. Villa Rosa apartments in background, left.

Ah, the Villa Rosa was that far east? In that case, I had the wrong apartment house in mind. I was thinking of one that's on the Sunset Strip. I love the architectural style of the Sunfax Mart...and the name!

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

The Capitol Records Building made an appearance in last week's MAD MEN episode, dressed for the Spring of 1969.

Tom&Lorenzo

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Asperger moment: Reminiscent of a certain shot in Chinatown once discussed here, I don't think that building next to her left arm was there in 1969...

The building in question is 1777 Vine Street, and now appears to be called the Marsha Toy Building. Although it looks newer, the first listing I found in the City Directories was as far back as the October 1961 edition - only three tenants are listed.


LAPL

The building seems to have filled up by 1969 (when the Mad Men episode was set).


LAPL

The GSV images have a range of dates for this intersection. The earlier ones (circa 2009) show it with the "Academy Pacific Travel College" signage as in the picture below, while the later ones (circa 2011) show the signage missing.


www.luzzattocompany.com

[ethereal_reality]

After years of going through vintage postcards, I finally found one for the Nirvana Apartments.



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The typography is reminiscent of art nouveau....and it looks like there used to be a 'pagoda'-like entryway near the front sidewalk.
-which is missing in the modern view (below).



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I found this newspaper clipping and pic dated May 19, 1940. (oddly, the sidewalk 'pagoda-entryway' is missing in it too)


http://ladailymirror.com/2012/09/03/...na-apartments/



We discussed the Nirvana Apts. on NLA back in 2011.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3021

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3039

I thought there might be a few more posts but I was unable to find them.
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