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Old Posted Mar 19, 2014, 5:31 AM
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The photo does indeed lead to questioning. However, "Sailors Three" was a WWII era British film released in 1940 leaving no logical explanation as to why the newest vehicle seen in the photo would appear to be of either 1935 or 1936 vintage. The claim of "World Premier" seen on the banner is a bit wrong given it premiered in England, and the size of the cast would almost make one believe it was a live performance. Not!



If we assume for the moment that the banner is accurate, then the Sailors Three reference is to a one night [stage] show with a large cast at the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium. As you note this would be an unlikely venue for the world premier of a British film. Not impossible, but improbable. Not to be unfair toward Long Beach but has it ever been known for World Premiers? IMDB indicates the US release of the British film was in '41.

The title of banner is no guarantee that it refers to the same '40 British film. This would be particularly true if the date of the photo and the show was in '33, as deduced by Dr. Hollywood Graham.

Anecdotally, the late Municipal Auditorium, pictured below, was far more than a '30s movie palace.
"The fill for the auditorium and the Rainbow Pier was begun October 1928 and completed in December 1930. Only then, could the $2.8 million Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, which was financed through a bond issue, be built.

It was completed in late 1931 and officially opened on March 6, 1932. It was mainly a convention center for tournaments, dog shows, tennis matches, fashion shows, auto shows, rabbit shows and American Legion conventions. The biggest crowds have been credited to Jehovah Witness meetings, which now are held in the newer convention center which replaced it.

In March 1947, famed show pianist Liberace supposedly made his stage debut a the Municipal Auditorium as a benefit for the White Shrine as is known as the 'Liberace world tour inaugural' complete with 500 custom pressings of “Warsaw Concerto” and “The Fire Dance,” which were autographed and sold as souvenirs." http://longbeachhistory.wordpress.co...gory/theaters/
Alas, I have been proven wrong in the past.


http://longbeachhistory.files.wordpr...umexterior.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014881.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5271/7...ff8b61fd_b.jpg
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Does anybody have any information on the building at right (NE corner of Broadway & Olympic, I believe)? The building with what appears to be 'Martindale's Buffet' on the ground floor. I've never seen it before and it's quite a fascinating building. I wonder if the buildings currently at the same location are the chopped-down, remodeled remnants of it:

GSV
GIS says 1947 for both of the buildings closest to the corner. Not definitive as sometimes it can be wrong, but I tend to believe this one.


Also, thanks to BifRayRock for posting those stereo photos of earthquake aftermath! I used them as an excuse to bust out the stereo viewer, and they look wonderful in 3-D.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2014, 11:55 AM
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Apparently the model was made of 1881 Los Angeles as described. Nobody seems to know where it is. I'd also like to know that happened to that 1850's model. Click the L.A. Times blog link for only a little more info.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-angeles-.html
Could this be the model that is housed at the Avila Adobe on the East side of Olvera Street? I visited that last weekend and this rather large model of the area encased in Plexiglas was stuffed in a corner as you entered the adobe courtyard.
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I think you located the missing model Gastorical! You need to go back and take a photo of it.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2014, 1:42 PM
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If we assume for the moment that the banner is accurate, then the Sailors Three reference is to a one night [stage] show with a large cast at the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium. As you note this would be an unlikely venue for the world premier of a British film. Not impossible, but improbable. Not to be unfair toward Long Beach but has it ever been known for World Premiers? IMDB indicates the US release of the British film was in '41.

The title of banner is no guarantee that it refers to the same '40 British film. This would be particularly true if the date of the photo and the show was in '33, as deduced by Dr. Hollywood Graham.

Anecdotally, the late Municipal Auditorium, pictured below, was far more than a '30s movie palace.
"The fill for the auditorium and the Rainbow Pier was begun October 1928 and completed in December 1930. Only then, could the $2.8 million Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, which was financed through a bond issue, be built.

It was completed in late 1931 and officially opened on March 6, 1932. It was mainly a convention center for tournaments, dog shows, tennis matches, fashion shows, auto shows, rabbit shows and American Legion conventions. The biggest crowds have been credited to Jehovah Witness meetings, which now are held in the newer convention center which replaced it.

In March 1947, famed show pianist Liberace supposedly made his stage debut a the Municipal Auditorium as a benefit for the White Shrine as is known as the 'Liberace world tour inaugural' complete with 500 custom pressings of “Warsaw Concerto” and “The Fire Dance,” which were autographed and sold as souvenirs." http://longbeachhistory.wordpress.co...gory/theaters/
Alas, I have been proven wrong in the past.


http://longbeachhistory.files.wordpr...umexterior.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014881.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5271/7...ff8b61fd_b.jpg

I think the screening and/or live performance of "Sailors Three" as implied via the banner may forever remain a mystery. I have looked around the Internet and have found no evidence "Sailors Three" was ever done in live performance anywhere. The screen play was written by the motion picuture's principle actor and director with no mention of it being an adaptation for screen. It is interesting to consider that a single screening and/or live performance would have occurred in any venue, though I suppose a single screening and/or live performance might have occurred at the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium due to scheduling. Now if we revisit the photo, we find there is a Vaudeville Theater seen behind the right side of the banner. Could it be a single screening occurred there? Other than adding more speculation to the mystery, it may be time to move on and get to a discussion of the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium which was a magnificent building.

Unfortunately that auditorium was demolished in 1975 to build the Convention & Entertainment Center. http://www.millikanalumni.com/Pike/MunicipalAud.html

Now about the "Warsaw Concerto" which was written for a 1939 British film. It is a magnificent composition that rivals many of Rachmaninoff's works because the composer chose to create it in his style of composition. In the 1950's after lyrics had been added to the introduction theme portion of the composition it was inaccurately rumored by TOP 40 DJ's that it was a never finished Rachmaninoff work. Noop! You may know the recording as "Shangri-La" released in 1957 by a group known as the Four Coins. FYI, there are incorrect references all over the Internet claiming the composition was created in 1946, which it was not. The lyrics for "Shangri-la" were written by the song writing group of
WIDEMAIR, WALTER / GREINER, HANS

Just took another close look at that stinking banner, and the far left side specifically indicates the Municipal Auditorium.
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Great post on Venice Flyingwedge!


V E N I C E




It's difficult to find anything about the Venice Tigers since they only played two seasons,
but I was able to find these Zee-Nut baseball cards featuring Venice players. (not sure what Zee-Nut is)


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and then there's this..

http://www.venicepaparazzi.com/2010/...baseball-team/

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Frank Wiggins Trade School group photograph on ebay.



young, old, and everyone in between.



LINOTYPE vs. MONOTYPE




I was surprised to see this large gathering was held at the Mary Louise Tea Room.



So where did Mary Louise have this huge room? Is this it in the postcard below?


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It certainly wasn't held in the Mah Jong Room.

ebay

-neither seller included the address (which must be on the back)
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2239 West 24th Street was rescued from oblivion.... Natalie Neith, great booster of West Adams, sold 2239 West 24th Street last June for $975,000. Although I haven't found anything yet to back me up, my hunch is that this house, like 2400 South Gramercy, was moved to the Kinney Heights Tract from a neighborhood to the east. City records indicate a build date of 1904, with an "effective build date" of 1910—which is when I suspect that the house may have been moved.



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Found more information about the Card Houses on Sugar Hill.

"41 – Streetscape. Oxford Ave.



Left to right: Schafer Residence, Chamberlain Residence, New Construction, and Gibbons Residence.



Real estate agents in 1970’s through 90’s, were eager to promote Historic West Adams and used many tools at their disposal. One advertising campaign Claimed these four properties, designed by Frank M Tyler, were constructed in the theme of cards – each one being either hearts, spades, diamonds, and clubs. The problem is that it wasn’t exactly true. The houses may or may not have had these themes, but they were also common motifs of many turn-of-the-century houses. Another factor is that these houses were all built at different times, spanning from 1903 to 1907, and commissioned by different people. Also, the house at 1921 S Oxford (destroyed by fire and demolished in 1966) probably wasn’t designed by Frank M Tyler. Looking at the houses it’s hard to fathom how this legend began, but imagination is a wonderful thing"

From the same author I have been finding all my information. Very knowledgeable. I would suggest visiting his Flickr, he has info on a lot of houses.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_...n/photostream/

Here is his Flickr main page Lots and lots to go through.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_sebastian/sets/
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So where did Mary Louise have this huge room? Is this it in the postcard below?


ebay
The 1923 CD lists the Mary Louise Tea Rooms on the 12th floor of 527 West 7th Street.


LAPL

In 1923, most of the other tenants were tailors, dressmakers, furriers and milliners, but there were also two more tea rooms: the Aileen Tea Room on the 4th floor and the Windsor Tea Room on the 5th floor.


LAPL

527 West 7th Street is now known as the Collection Building - it's the one between the blade signs.


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Unfortunately that auditorium was demolished in 1975 to build the Convention & Entertainment Center. http://www.millikanalumni.com/Pike/MunicipalAud.html

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The Long Beach Municipal Auditorium was only partially demolished in 1975. The original stage, proscenium, flying system or theatrical rigging remained in place.

The entry, seating and restrooms were replaced with modern fixtures.
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HossC, I just realized the Collection Building was the Brack Shops building.
1913 by Austin & Pennell.

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LAPL

The Brack Shops were sort of a prehistoric highrise mini-mall--I think named after a Mr. Brackett. Somewhere I've seen a whole description of its development... I'll go look for that. Stay tuned.
Two of the teas rooms are listed in the directory, but not Mary Louise. She must have gone on to greener pastures.
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Horthos at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6121




Interior of the Collection/Brack Shops Building from yelp

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-collecti...ng-los-angeles



Amazingly, there's still an elevator operator in the building.

I have to include this charming story.


http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-collecti...ng-los-angeles





...and don't forget this interesting bit of trivia.

Joan Crawford walks past the Brack Shops in the opening credits of 'Possessed' (1947).

http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html

also seen before at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6135

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just for fun...
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Miss Jim Dandy won
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I don't believe we've seen this 15 acre tourist attraction before.

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The Long Beach Municipal Auditorium was only partially demolished in 1975. The original stage, proscenium, flying system or theatrical rigging remained in place.

The entry, seating and restrooms were replaced with modern fixtures.
Not really desiring to be argumentative but I have been unable to find any supporting evidence that anything but the mosaic was saved from the 1932 Long Beach Municipal Auditorium. Sad if true.

http://historylosangeles.blogspot.co...1_archive.html


Looks like pretty much a total demolition underway to me and the only reference that I can find to anything having been saved has to do with the mosaic created in 1938 by the WPA.

http://historylosangeles.blogspot.co...1_archive.html
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Too much interesting stuff lately to comment on everything; this thread has been zooming along, but i wanted to say I love this color photo of the neon.
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Not really desiring to be argumentative but I have been unable to find any supporting evidence that anything but the mosaic was saved from the 1932 Long Beach Municipal Auditorium. Sad if true.

http://historylosangeles.blogspot.co...1_archive.html


Looks like pretty much a total demolition underway to me and the only reference that I can find to anything having been saved has to do with the mosaic created in 1938 by the WPA.

http://historylosangeles.blogspot.co...1_archive.html
Here is the part of the auditorium that was saved and incorporated into the new theater. [outlined in orange] How do I know this? I used to live 5 blocks from this site and watched the entire process. I kept wondering why they did not demo the entire structure. As the months went by I could see they were using the old stage and theatrical fly structure for the new building. This saved them a lot of money. The yellow arrow shows the old fly structure as it appears today being incorporated into the new structure.

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1940's

[QUOTE=BifRayRock;6499809]

Source dates this image to 1940. Autos appear to be from much earlier date. Presently unable to peg date to Musical Premier. Anyone have tickets?

1940(?)
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1030&h=643


All the cars look early 1930's but the bus on the right looks 1940's. So it has to be 1940's. Maybe those drivers couldn't afford new models...
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