[Burnaby] Gilmore Place | Phase I: 64fl 51fl 43fl | 214.8 | U/C

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by thalasith

Are there any store fronts that are as close to the train though? Maybe I just don’t take the sky train as much 😅 Watching the videos, the store fronts were closer to the train than I had imagined

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KmJsdRAJUVtBmx3y7

For 40 years here.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/VHrap3A2QAaQTJidA

Not to mention New Westminster Station.

[osirisboy]

Or all the places in Chicago or nyc for examples. Seem to be fine

[53064043]

Originally Posted by chowhou

https://maps.app.goo.gl/VHrap3A2QAaQTJidA

Not to mention New Westminster Station.

I really enjoy the mixed-use retail/office adjacencies in public transit stations in other parts of the world. It's much livelier, and definitely feels safer at night when businesses are operating and there's still people around. I hope more retail/office is encouraged adjacent to stations as more transit-oriented development occurs.

[jollyburger]

The ones in New West station are probably the closest to the platform?

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

The ones in New West station are probably the closest to the platform?

I've been in the Safeway (one level down) and it's shocking how much you can't hear the trains while shopping - but step out the doors and it's pretty noticeable.

[RabidMoose]

When I worked on some towers at Metrotown station, they had acoustic consultants make recommendations. For example, the windows facing the Skytrains got beefed up to triple pane. I imagine this would be similar.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by RabidMoose

When I worked on some towers at Metrotown station, they had acoustic consultants make recommendations. For example, the windows facing the Skytrains got beefed up to triple pane. I imagine this would be similar.

I lived in a Beresford tower, and when we first moved in we weren't sure how we would ever fall asleep. But in a matter or weeks we were sleeping with the window open, despite the noise reverberating off the tower across from us.

As for commercial tenants, facing the guideway will be far less noisy than fronting Georgia, Burrard, Kingsway, Main, or several other busy arterial streets. I think better points of reference than the locations chowhou shared are the patios that face the guideway yet remain busy despite the noise. Some examples are St. Augustine's (the patio is always packed on sunny days when I bike on the CVG and Mon Paris Patisserie. Never mind all of the busy patios on the arterials I mentioned above, which don't deal with Skytrain noise but much louder buses and trucks.

[Burquitlaman]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

I lived in a Beresford tower, and when we first moved in we weren't sure how we would ever fall asleep. But in a matter or weeks we were sleeping with the window open, despite the noise reverberating off the tower across from us.

As for commercial tenants, facing the guideway will be far less noisy than fronting Georgia, Burrard, Kingsway, Main, or several other busy arterial streets. I think better points of reference than the locations chowhou shared are the patios that face the guideway yet remain busy despite the noise. Some examples are St. Augustine's (the patio is always packed on sunny days when I bike on the CVG and Mon Paris Patisserie. Never mind all of the busy patios on the arterials I mentioned above, which don't deal with Skytrain noise but much louder buses and trucks.

I live in Burquitlam and I no longer even hear the train when it's passing by. I'm used to it. BUT, my brother who also bought in this area (by Safeway on Clarke and Como Lake Ave) could not take it and eventually rented it out and moved back in with my parents lol. He's going to sell the unit next year and find something without a train in sight.

He was in communication with Trans Link about this and they sent him a bunch of reports about their plans for the future re. sound mitigation. Maybe I'll ask him to send me those and I can post them here.

If you are super sound sensitive do not go near the Skytrain, period. But I'm with you, I don't notice it at all.

[jollyburger]

I think it's probably worse on certain noisy segments as well (curves?)

[GilmorePete]

Does anyone know what the residential parking clearance heights are? I have asked the developer, but got no response. I know the entrance to the parkade says 3.5m but I doubt that this applies to the whole parkade.

[CondoInvestor]

Originally Posted by GilmorePete

Does anyone know what the residential parking clearance heights are? I have asked the developer, but got no response. I know the entrance to the parkade says 3.5m but I doubt that this applies to the whole parkade.

Do you drive an RV?

[GilmorePete]

Originally Posted by CondoInvestor

Do you drive an RV?

No a normal truck requiring 6'-7" clearance which restricts me from a lot of parking garages in the downtown area that have either 6'-5" or 6'-6" clearance.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I think it's probably worse on certain noisy segments as well (curves?)

This is the right answer. Skytrain screeching can be awful in curves. Much less so on straights. Next to stations you also get the acceleration/deceleration noise.

None of it is ideal and you can easily hear it 50 floors up. While one can learn to block it out, the best solution is to have an unit facing the other way or hope for underground stations / sections.

This area is going to be a noise chamber with all the tall buildings going up.

[53064043]

Originally Posted by Klazu

This is the right answer. Skytrain screeching can be awful in curves. Much less so on straights. Next to stations you also get the acceleration/deceleration noise.

None of it is ideal and you can easily hear it 50 floors up. While one can learn to block it out, the best solution is to have an unit facing the other way or hope for underground stations / sections.

This area is going to be a noise chamber with all the tall buildings going up.

I live on the 30th floor facing the tracks on the Concord Brentwood development - I don't hear the noise al all! Or maybe I've gotten used to it and tuned it out similar to smoke alarm battery beeps.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by 53064043

I live on the 30th floor facing the tracks on the Concord Brentwood development - I don't hear the noise al all! Or maybe I've gotten used to it and tuned it out similar to smoke alarm battery beeps.

There's not much of a curve there. I can hear the skytrain at Terminal and Clark from 5km away.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Klazu

This is the right answer. Skytrain screeching can be awful in curves. Much less so on straights. Next to stations you also get the acceleration/deceleration noise.

None of it is ideal and you can easily hear it 50 floors up. While one can learn to block it out, the best solution is to have an unit facing the other way or hope for underground stations / sections.

This area is going to be a noise chamber with all the tall buildings going up.

Originally Posted by 53064043

I live on the 30th floor facing the tracks on the Concord Brentwood development - I don't hear the noise al all! Or maybe I've gotten used to it and tuned it out similar to smoke alarm battery beeps.

In my experience, there's a huge difference between the Expo Line and the Millennium Line w.r.t. track noise.

[idunno]

I find the Millennium Line really loud! Especially around Holdom/Lake City Way, and in/around the Evergreen Line tunnel.

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by chowhou

In my experience, there's a huge difference between the Expo Line and the Millennium Line w.r.t. track noise.

Isn't a bunch of the Expo Line track going to be replaced in the next couple of years? I remember seeing a story about it a while back.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Jebby

Isn't a bunch of the Expo Line track going to be replaced in the next couple of years? I remember seeing a story about it a while back.

It is slowly being replaced with higher hardness rail, it's an ongoing long term project.

[NetMapel]

I mean, Lougheed Hwy and Gilmore Ave are already very noisy with all the cars if you face them. At least skytrain noise is kind of more rhythmically consistent and easier to block out because of it.