Quote:
Originally Posted by volguus zildrohar
Dude, come off it.
Firstly, there are very few subway lines worldwide that run four track service. The Second Avenue Subway u/c right now in New York wil run almost entirely as a two-track route. The alignment is not a necessity these days as headways can be elctronically controlled. Int the case of The El, the route length and capacity don't necessarily call for such a high capacity alignment.
Secondly, such high capacity alignments typically make sense when multpile lines converge. Look at Chicago and New York, the only other American cities with four track routes. Every line that actually uses all four tracks don't run a single route - they are truck routes that ultimately split into branches. The reason the BSS was built that way was for that very reason. There are no El spurs and it's unlikely we'll ever see them. The Broad Street Subway is the line with all the extension and expansion plans for a reason.
For the umpteenth time, the bus/rail system is not perfect but in the absence of a more expansive rail system, it works. It actually works. People are able to get from one side of the city to the other - ineffciently in some cases but it works. If you'd like an example of a larger system that works much the same way, try Chicago.
|
And for the umpteenth time, please stop slamming ALL of my opinions when you can't even present a plan of your own. Do you have one??? Then please stop, because this is getting to be utterly ridiculous coming from you everytime you respond.
I'll admit SEPTA sucks, and even though we a least have a mass transit system of buses, trains, and trolleys, it's not just that it sucks, but utterly inefficient, as well!!!
Do we really need spurs to ensure that we have four track service to the NE??? If you look at NYC's subway system, especially the Bronx, it has a middle third track for possible express service:
Bronx
http://images.nycsubway.org/trackmap/biguptown.png
http://images.nycsubway.org/trackmap/bigbronx.png
Brooklyn
http://images.nycsubway.org/trackmap/bigbklyn-3.png
If you take a look at the Q line from Prospect Park to Brighton Beach, it has express service. There aren't any trunk lines, but there are connecting lines (F, N, etc.).
And while there hasn't been any trunk lines for the MFL (big mistake nor replacing the line to Penn's Landing, when it was an el), it should've had trunk lines in Upper Darby to Norristown (Route 100) and another one going to what should've been Darby Terminal.
We could've had two more four track subways, along w/ the BSL and the MFL, along w/ the NW lines, but when it comes to mass transit systems, Philly just flat out sucks because it wastes it potential on what could be a system along the lines of a NYC, Chicago, Boston, SF, and DC.
And don't even go there with the buses and the commuter rail. SEPTA's just a money making machine that doesn't even care about it's costumers, and you know it!!! Why defend them???!!!
