I would agree that a building that response to their surroundings could be viewed as good architeture even if it's ugly.
Do a nice building but misplaced could be considered as bad architecture ?
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Seriously? Strasbourg, which was heavily bombed, has a much nicer center than any German city. The only reason it was rebuilt so nicely is because it's now in France. It's really the nicest "German" city center anywhere. If it were still in Germany it would look like crap, in the postwar rush to rebuild.
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Strasbourg was not as heavily bombed as most german cities.
We didn't have to rebuit the whole cities but just buildings.
In red, parts destroyed by the bombardments
https://journals.openedition.org/alsace/2415
You should rather look what we built at Le Havre or Caen, Brest, Lorient, Dunkerque, place where most of the historic center was demolished.
Rue de Paris, Le Havre
Rue Saint Jean, Caen
While most of its historic core remain intact the northern side of Old port of Marseille was bombed, destroying an old medieval neighborhood.
Rue de la Loge, Marseille
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France was lucky to have fewer cities flattened, but the fact is that they did a much nicer job with postwar rebuilding (which, granted, is much easier when 10% of your country is destroyed instead of 50%).
All the German city centers are much uglier than French city centers. Berlin, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Munich, Cologne, Mannheim, all the Ruhr cities, all the former GDR cities. Maybe Nuremberg is the best, in terms of having the least 1950's-looking core crap? Heidelberg is nice too, but wasn't heavily bombed, and is much smaller.
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Yes, we were lucky because I don't know how our cities would look if those have been heavily bombed like German cities.
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German suburbs tend to be slightly more UK/US-looking, with more SFH and less multifamily than France, but otherwise not that different from France. Germany has more of the big box-style development too.
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There are fewer big-box style retail development in Germany than in France.
In France, most of the shopping is done in suburban shopping areas while in Germany, city centers and urban neighbourhoods dominate.
Geographic distribution of retails turnover.
France :
city center : 20%
urban neighbourhoods : 10%
Periphery : 70%
Germany :
City center 30%
Urban neighbourhoods : 40%
Periphery : 30%
Commerce et mobilité
L’activité commerciale face aux nouvelles
politiques publiques de déplacements, page 22