This shouldn't be misinterpreted as a City vs. Suburb discussion.
It's really about the fact that I somewhat enjoy automobile oriented areas for what they are. Wauwatosa in Wisconsin, a suburb of Milwaukee, is an example. Drive around there, they've got everything, and it's all car oriented. Same with Steely's favorite place, Schaumburg, IL, or Oak Brook, IL.
They are what they are. The scale is huge. They are unabashedly auto-oriented. If you have a car, enjoy it. If you don't, go home.
Do I want to see more of that type of development? No. Do I want this type of development to encroach on walkable urban areas? Definitely no.
Do I still aesthetically prefer walkable, urban areas? Obviously I do.
My point is that I don't believe that one HAS to hate auto oriented places just because they appreciate urbanism and skyscrapers. And I think I am one of the people who can appreciate and enjoy both.
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