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Similarly, comparing SF (49 sq miles) with LA (500 sq miles, though some uninhabited mountains) is worthless. The entire city of SF would fit in to the area occupied by DTLA, Koreatown, Westlake, and Echo Park/Silverlake.

Btw, I have lived in 'genuine urbanity' on the east coast and midwest, and (pre-covid) was a transit commuter in LA, so miss me with the self-righteousness. I've never claimed LA to be some walker's paradise. Quite the contrary...our streets are way too wide, we have far too many curb cuts and auto-centric uses along our commercial corridors. But there's no doubt the city is urbanizing, and doing so at a fast rate. Every strip mall that's removed in favor of an apartment building with ground floor retail is a step in the right direction. I think I've said all I have to say on this topic.