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Old Posted Feb 9, 2011, 6:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past View Post
Hmmm. Now that I really look closely at the Ord map, it looks to me like the Plaza may have originally been west of Main Street after all.

The red arrow on the Ord map points to Wine St. (today's Olvera Street). The present Plaza is located at Wine/Olvera's southern terminus. But that's not where the word "Plaza" is on the Ord map. It's clearly on the other side of Main Street. Where the Plaza is now is a blank space on the Ord map.


USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6320?v=hr


Here's an 1873 map of old Los Angeles. Look above and to the right of the Old Plaza Church. It says "Church Plaza." And that just happens to be the exact spot that the word "Plaza" appears on the Ord Map.


Library Of Congress http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.gmd/g4364l.ct001794


Granted, that's not the same location as the "Original Plaza" in the 1950 plan map. Clearly, that was intended to be a reconstruction of some sort. But it seems to me now that there is some credible historical basis for the existence of a much older Plaza on the west side of Calle Principal.

-Scott
well scott, it looks like i could be wrong....(the story of my life)


Source: LAhistory http://www.lanopalera.net/LAHistory/OldPueblo.gif

here's the link to the web site

Probable Location of the Original
Pueblo de la Reina de los Ángeles
on the River Porciúncula


i'm gonna have to agree that the original location of the plaza was north and west of the current location......it's quite an interesting story
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