[MichaelRyerson]

GW, I agree with all of that, and your conclusion is, of course, the only place we can come out, with the buildings under an actual, if somewhat loose, stewardship. Over my professional life, I've had to frequent NY city and find it almost antiseptic now. I understand about crime and safety issues but I also understand the need for real multi-use and the clear benefit of living in close proximity with one another. As a kid I worked at the wholesale vegetable market in L.A. and I started work at around midnight. Frequently some of us would meet at the pantry to 'gas up' before starting our shift. At midnight, most nights, the place would be teeming with working stiffs, cab drivers, hustlers and swells in suits and ties or even tuxedos. It was the greatest. This would have been about 1961-62. Anyway, like the city, there's room in this thread for every one and Hunter's photgraphs are well above average. We're lucky he landed here.