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Originally Posted by pj3000
^ They're Southish. Certainly less "Southern" these days.
South of the Mason-Dixon, though.
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I don't like using a 150+ year old term for todays geography, I wouldn't consider anything north of Richmond to be the south in a modern context.
The south begins somewhere in mid Virginia on the east coast, In the Midwest it begins along the Ohio river but there is a lot of bleed over. Missouri/Kansas is where the traditional North/south concept becomes transplanted with the East/west split.
Once you get out west far enough the east/west division is far more relevant than the north/south division, which is quite honestly completely irrelevant at that point.