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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 2:50 PM
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333 West Wacker was built over 30 years ago, when KPF was young and relatively unknown with no national or international profile. Stern's brand is New York. KPF's brand is global--they're more known for what they've built outside of New York.
so what? they're still an outsider arch firm who designed a very handsome building here in chicago that most chicagoans unchauvinistically admire.





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333 West Wacker is also what gave KPF national renown. They made their bones in Chicago. Like any transplant, not only does age help the building's local acceptance, being in a classic Chicago movie helps ("Ferris Bueller").
actually, what helps more than anything else is that it's a very good design, and above all, chicagoans appreciate good design.




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It's also apples and oranges to compare a hugely prominent, massive office development like 333 to a filler residential tower like 1 Bennett Park.
i completely disagree, at 850' tall (nearly twice the height of 333 w wacker), and the 11th tallest building in the skyline at large, and the tallest buildings in its immediate streeterville surroundings, one bennett park is no mere filler residential building. this is a skyline-making tower, and it will be extremely prominent in its area of the city.




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The way people are acting here you'd think they tore down John Hancock to put up this Stern building.
yes, some of the extremists in this thread go WAY overboard in their criticism of this tower, but it's not because it's designed by a new yorker or whatever silly little narrative you've invented in your own mind, it's because there is an obnoxiously loud contingent of chicago fourmers who just utterly and completely abhor anything that even hints at PoMo these days. if you think the criticism in this thread of stern is bad, you should read the disdainful contempt that gushes from their keyboards whenever the name lucien lagrange (a chicago architect mind you, not some NY outsider) is mentioned.

the issue here is design, not geography.

but please continue making up stories; they're cute.
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