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Originally Posted by Acajack
It's worth mentioning that I don't think I ever heard a PQ person say that Quebec as a country would be richer than the ROC.
Their discourse has always been that things would be fine economically, generally acknowledging that it might take a bit of a hit in the first couple of years.
If you'd ask them they'd say they think Quebec would similar to France, Finland or Japan in terms of overall prosperity.
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There are always bizarre assumptions made about the post-independence world. Sovereignists seem to act like everything will be the same except for different passports, currency and postage stamps. Nothing could be further from the truth. Even Brexit hasn't gone this well. And they didn't even break up a country or leave a currency.
Also, the comparisons listed are bizarre. Japan is a massive population in close proximity to other large markets. Finland and France are part of the EU, a market of 450M and part of the Eurozone, sharing a currency with 350M. Quebec that doesn't launch with USMCA on day one would be in a world of hurt economically. And there is literally nothing Québec has which the Americans are desperate enough to negotiate over. As we see now with complaints from US Secretary of State over labelling requirements in French, the Americans don't really believe they have to cave in much to Canada of 40M. Just imagine what they'll say to a region of 8-10M.
Will add too that a lot of the assumptions are based on continuity of deals that Canada itself would not have today, and that we largely benefit from, mostly out of legacy. If NATO and Five Eyes were being formed today, we might well have been left out. Just like we got left out of AUKUS. If there's no Canada, then there's no reason to continue the charade with successor states. This is again, similar to the assumptions made by the Brexiters.