Amtrak proposal to create new rail passenger connections for major cities
Amtrak released a new map yesterday to coincide with Biden's infrastructure program.
https://i.insider.com/60659ef0daf0f10018f9966d Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/map-...re-plan-2021-4 New routes between major cities:
The most interesting ones to me are L.A. to Vegas and Detroit to Toronto. Detroit to Toronto would almost certainly mean that rail service is returning to Michigan Central Station. |
Just like in 2009?
Yawn, Trains do not make sense in 90% of the USA no matter how much I like them aesthetically. planes are cheaper and faster outside of a few regions. |
^ Agreed. This is a pipe dream
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chicago hub makes sense to concentrate on in the middle of the country. stl, detroit, indy - these are the cities that make sense to tie to chicago with faster trains. severe inbound traffic, o’hare, all these things make a faster train worth it. minneapolis if they can get something through wisconsin...
they are still messing with the control systems as far as i know between stl-chi. the upgraded tracks, smoothed turns, and concrete ties are done. i have no clue where the passenger car fiasco sits - i think they are still pulling the old carriages with the new locomotives which is depressing. 110 mph is still too slow for all the effort. |
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I hope they eventually use Michigan Central, but they'll likely do a turnback from New Center station to get to Toronto. Quote:
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Amtrak is pretty much useless as it is. We need high speed rail.
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In 2009 I also believed in high speed rail, but since then I’ve grown up
Passenger rail between cities is worthless if the cities are more than, say, 150 miles apart Just drive your soon-to-be-mandated electric cars or fly. Creating high speed rail between Chicago and LA is just idiotic. Completely redundant and unnecessary when we already have a third dimension (flight) that is heavily managed by the private sector. |
it makes a lot of sense for people living in regions that matter.
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LA to Vegas is interesting because I thought a private group was already planning to build a high speed train to accommodate that route (Brightline West?). Would Amtrack compete with the private option?
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Please explain to me how the Northeastern US could function without the raw materials and consumer base of middle America. I wont because you are either trolling or have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the world works. Also outside of Manhattan and the San Francisco Peninsula most of the NYC metro and Bay area are positively suburban and useless for trains |
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What? Why? Its all nonsense. unsurprisingly |
They should really include transit-oriented housing as part of their transportation infrastructure strategy. Make it make sense for people to use.
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Madrid to Barcelona is 313 miles straight line.
Milan to Rome is 297. Both corridors used to be air dominated (and amongst the top 10 corridors worldwide) and now are ~80% rail dominated. While a national Shinkansen doesn't make economic sense, there's plenty of those natural high speed rail corridors in the US, beyond those with current projects: Seattle to Portland Boulder to Pueblo (even Albuquerque?) Chicago to Minneapolis, St. Louis, Detroit Chicago to and in between the Ohio Cs St. Louis to Kansas City Atlanta-Greenville-Charlotte-Raleigh Philadelphia to Pittsburgh The Empire Service as HSR Actual HSR on the Northeast Corridor Memphis-Nashville-Knoxville Let's make regional flights (<1 hr) a thing of the past, aside from islands. |
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