The subject station's history, especially in its well lit configuration, was likely very fleeting. The biggest problem probably being placement of the underground storage tanks. Inexpensive labor was plentiful in the '30s. As we have seen particularly with this area, Gilmore was no stranger to erecting and striking venues as needed, similar to film sets. Probably very few codes by which to abide. According to the LA Times, parts of Gilmore Stadium's grandstand eventually made their way to build or augment the Saugus venue. http://articles.latimes.com/1995-07-...augus-speedway So, for all we know, the same station exists . . . far far away or was partially re-erected on the Gilmore property. :rolleyes:

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To my amateur sensibilities, the gas pumps and the station footprint were from the '20s while the lighting was the avant garde of the '30s. The style pumps depicted provided proof both of fuel quantity and quality (blu-green gas in case of Gilmore). Although the pumps continued to be used, they were probably seen as old and cumbersome (not modern).


Look closely for the name "(D?) or V. L. Anderson.";)
http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...l1-525x600.jpghttp://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...l1-525x600.jpg


http://www.laurelcottagegenealogy.co...on-tc-back.jpghttp://www.laurelcottagegenealogy.co...on-tc-back.jpg


Surprised we haven't seen any aerials of the recently discussed self-serve station. Maybe not 100, but it looks as though there close to 30 working pumps which means the station and its attendants expected far more volume/sales than the solitary station. Have to wonder how long this lasted.

In looking for images related to this station, I was reminded of what I thought was a popular image from the early '50s featuring the Standard Oil Station on the NE corner of Beverly and Fairfax. Bus with tourists? It may have even been part of a LIFE series. Anyone familiar with it?

I seem to recall that, in the 60's, the bottom part with the logs was pretty much in disrepair, probably due to whoever took her arms......it was made of rebar and there were large holes where parts of the logs were missing. The city probably could not save it due to rust on the rebar and disintegration of the cement and would have gotten a new base made, placing the repaired statue on top.

Excellent find Flyingwedge! I don't remember seeing the Excelsior Laundry building before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/24/q5fs.jpg

Your 1907 photograph shows a gigantic flagpole attached to the corner of the building. By 1933 it's been replaced by a blade sign (it's rather hard to see), & at the corner on the roof you can see the old attachment that secured the flagpole. Also, in your 1933 close-up, you can see where the building has been seismic retrofitted (that was fast...since the earthquake occurred in 1933).

Here's FW's original post if you want to see what I'm blabbing about.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20199

Anyway, good job FW.

It's V. L. Anderson, V as in Victor.


Just found this...it looks like you're on to something, Chuckaluck. It looks like Anderson's station may have been a Deco remodeling of an earlier Gilmore....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520AM.bmp.jpgcruisin66.com


And someone mentioned the Gilmore history display at the Farmers Market...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520AM.bmp.jpgcruisin66.com

I've never heard of Dead's Man Island before.

1912
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/401/9y3x.jpgebay

A 32 foot,7 ton Shark!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/59/yp3d.jpgebay

I can't quite make this out to be a shark. -looks more like a whale.

Is this the Pioneer Memorial waterfall?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/24/3dpz.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/834/t3np.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/21/hew4.jpg
http://www.cardcow.com/381540/sharon...es-california/

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/42/owsc.jpg

Dead Man's Island was dredged away in 1928 as part of a harbor development effort. Rattlesnake Island, the other islet in the area, became Terminal Island. This photo dates from 1973:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mansIsland.jpg
Wikipedia

A previous mention:

Most likely a harmless whale shark.
http://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/ima...hale-shark.jpghttp://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/ima...hale-shark.jpg

In this photo, the building on the right--I first thought that read "Open Loins." :haha:

Although an aerial photo may exist, one reason why it may not have received much coverage is because this area was away from most of the Farmer's Market action on Fairfax. Instead, it seems that this was on the less-improved south side of Beverly Boulevard toward Gilmore Field, the Pan Pacific Auditorium and its unpaved parking area. In some of the shots, the background buildings would be on the north side of Beverly Blvd. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13282

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097769.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097769.jpg


Although the pieces do not exactly fit, in this instance, the fluted building (below) may be at the corner of Stanley and Beverly. It could also be that the building in the '48 shot no longer exists or has been remodeled. Looks like the large advertising sign across from the Bevonshire Lounge at 7605 Beverly is in one shot.;) See http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=10714


http://i0.wp.com/pc-triage.com/blog/...size=600%2C600


http://i1.wp.com/pc-triage.com/blog/...size=600%2C600


http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bpho...kNFk7lWg/l.jpghttp://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bpho...kNFk7lWg/l.jpg

http://www.bevonshire.com/images/Bevonshire.JPGhttp://www.bevonshire.com/images/Bevonshire.JPG



http://pics3.city-data.com/businesse.../1/6051511.JPGhttp://la.curbed.com/uploads/2009-07-terroni-thumb http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=10714

Yes, there are also standing display cases with memorabilia inside them, including things from the Pan-Pacific Auditorium.

Hello, found this thread while doing a Google search for something Gilmore. Think I can answer a few of your Q's...

Yes, same location. I do not know if Vic Anderson operated it then/originally. Do not know when it was originally built. Earliest mention I have seen of it (the Beverly-Fairfax station) is late 1930.

Same station... http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/2109/rec/35

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps69785e90.jpg

Another shot of it on the USC site...

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/43536/rec/1

You'll notice in one of the photos, a shed-like structure on the right that says "GILMORE THE FLYING LION". The lion in reference is aviator Roscoe Turner's African lion flying partner/pet/mascot- Gilmore! After Gilmore's flying days were over, this is where Gilmore stayed for a brief period. Until, neighbors complained and city officials made Turner and the Gilmore Co. relocate him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pse5de65d6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psea2db342.jpg

GW, loved your pictures of Zamboanga and Chuckaluck, yours of the Singapore Spa!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...jpg%7Eoriginal

It's my belief that the self-service station can be found in this aerial if you look under the word “Beverly.” In the close-up photos you can see 8 rows of gas pumps in each photo. In the aerial you can see what look to be those same eight rows of pumps. It’s set off the street which would also coincide with the street-level photos and the large “serve yourself” sign seen in the pictures, along with the pay station booth. From that location looking west (the night photo) you would also see the “Herbert’s” tower in the background and the Fairfax Theatre sign off to the right.

As for expecting “far more volume/sales than the solitary station,” that location with Gilmore Field, Gilmore Stadium, the Farmer’s Market, Fairfax Theater, Gilmore Drive-In and the Pan-Pacific Auditorium, surely would have provided that more than any other location I could think of in the city at the time!

Can't find the post at the moment, but there was a question as to what the track was that was behind the stadium, and at the site of where Gilmore Field was... the structure was a dog track that was built in 1933(?) but never came to operation, due to trouble getting permits. In 1934, when the Farmer's Market was proposed, lumber was taken from the track to built the market stalls, then buildings.

I believe in 1936, maybe '37, due to the success of the market, it was decided to move the Vic Anderson station closer to the market. After which, the address of the station became 3rd & Fairfax.

The Serve-Yourself Gilmore Gas-A-Teria was built in 1948. The Gilmore Oil Co. was not around at this time, having been bought out/merged with Mobil in 1945. The station did not sell the Gilmore gas brands.

Here's a larger version of the area near the word "Beverly" in my earlier aerial. It's dated at 1948, which ties in nicely with GILMORE's build date. I think it's also visible in the 1952 aerial, but the image is considerably more blurry.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...veYourself.jpg
Historic Aerials

:previous:

Hello Gilmore--thanks for the great new info.


http://i.imgur.com/chV3US4.jpg?1?9684USCDL

In a couple of the USC pictures you mention is the actress Dorothy Burgess in a Packard at the Gilmore station. (The pics are dated 1932, so it seems that the new Deco canopies came after that.) As for Miss Burgess--seems she had a respectable career; it probably helped that her aunt was Fay Bainter, who had a great caeer and won an Oscar for in 1938.

After the Gilmore shoot, that December, a little noir for Miss Burgess...

"Burgess was charged with manslaughter following an auto accident in which she was driving. 17-year-old Louise Manfredi died in the wreck, in San Francisco, on the night of December 23, 1932. Burgess, driving alone, collided with a car driven by 18-year-old, Andrew Salz, a student at the University of California-Berkeley. Burgess' hearing was postponed and her bail was fixed at $50. She suffered from shock and was placed in a San Francisco sanitorium. Salz and Burgess each accused the other of responsibility for the accident. Burgess was sued by Italo Manfredi and his wife, Marie, in January 1933. They sought $25,000 in damages. A compromise payment of $6,150 was approved by the San Francisco Superior Court in August 1933. Earlier a compromise amounting to $6,000 was agreed upon for damages claimed by 18-year-old swimmer, Betty Lou Davis, who was injured in the same accident." (Wikipedia)

She died of TB in 1961.

Welcome and thank you for your posts. Thanks also to MartinP and HossC for aerial finds.


Another view of the Gilmore Gas-A-Teria
http://www.gilmorestation.com/gilmor...as-station.jpg http://www.gilmorestation.com/gilmor...as-station.jpg


Gilmore No. 7. Olympic Gas?
http://www.gilmorestation.com/gilmor...more-saves.jpghttp://www.gilmorestation.com/gilmor...more-saves.jpg

Per Wiki, Gilmore the Flying Lion died in '52 and currently resides with the Smithsonian.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Gilmore_2.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Gilmore_2.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7260/8...6411d1dc_z.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7260/8...6411d1dc_z.jpg

She looks like the Black Dahlia as a middle aged Women.

:previous:

rlrdken... Yes, that could be her... sort of a Della Street working as a secretary in a fast-fading downtown. Perry Mason would have moved to Beverly Hills by this time; the cigar-chomping ambulance chaser she worked for would have stayed put in cheap offices. Is the guy to the left stalking her? And when did Desmond's close?

http://i.imgur.com/O030PLZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uxWRDSM.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/Vp5joqB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/jytYMjN.jpg?1
Los Angeles Relics/Wikipedia


We've seen the Los Feliz Derby here before, but I don't think we've seen its menu...



More on the corner of Los Feliz and Hillhurst...


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1786

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1787

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1788

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13585

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13587

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17708

Anybody recognize the car? Looks like an American Austin, but I don't think they made a four door.

Cheers,

Earl

Of course this would be much older than 1925, and probably father west...


As the route of Beverly Boulevard developed from downtown via Temple and First, there was already a Beverly Boulevard in Beverly Hills... that road's extension westward from BH became Sunset Boulevard in 1934... not sure when the Beverly within BH--not today's four blocks if it within the city limits but another road to the north--became Sunset, tying in with L.A.'s Sunset coming from the east and completing that road all the way to the ocean.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT June 23, 1934

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT June 19, 1932

Just a couple of the many confusing newspaper pieces to the puzzle of the various Beverly Boulevards.... I'm sure someone has the history all worked out somewhere...?

Thanks. My directions keep getting the tourists lost. Some day I am going to invest in a new Thomas Guide!

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/17204/rec/8


1927
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0



Could have sworn this was previously posted.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/1703/rec/33

Circa 1925 - Sunset Blvd construction (Which way is Indio?)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

There may have been even more Vogue -living displays other than Wilshire and La Brea. Source lists "Geographic Subject(Roadway)" as 3634 Beverly Boulevard. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/45237/rec/49 A location discussed many times on NLA. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7810




A Hudson most of us would be proud to own.

1935
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0





http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-7eONBDMRL...rden091528.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-7eONBDMRL...0/3636Bev3.JPG

Looking at Google Maps, it appears the Beverly - Sunset connection was made via what is now San Vicente (By the Beverly Center).

Interesting.

Per this article ( http://larchmontchronicle.com/origin...or-horses-hay/ ) The station had volunteer "firewomen." I recall reading about the available water supplies on NLA, but maybe not.

From the same article:
For GW: Would this fire station have covered Hancock Park, Windsor Square and Fremont Place - when the areas were still being developed, i.e., in the '20s or earlier?

One assumes the article's reference to natural springs at Beverly and Oxford refers to the Beverly Hot Springs. One also assumes that that it is remotely related to a sometimes subterranean "alluvial fan" also known as the Sacatela Slough. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7929

http://urbandiachrony.files.wordpres...2-35-54-pm.png http://urbandiachrony.files.wordpres...2-35-54-pm.png



Although the answer may appear in this thread, did areas such as Windsor Square and Fremont Place have their own independent water sources, e.g., a communal spring or well, or did each homeowner have his/her own well? Do any areas in LA proper still obtain their water needs from there own private wells rather than the DWP?







SC's slower format now permits us to revisit earlier posts for easily missed details. Looking for sloughs and creeks in all the wrong places. And thank you GW, for the street identifications, exploring is so much more interesting with the overlay.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/4135/rec/78


Sixth Street and Van Ness.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0



Hilly terrain south of Fremont Place.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

Is this the LACC near Pico and Western? What streets are we looking at? Could you please provide the link to this photo?

:previous:


The LACC opened at its current location in 1911--this is looking east on Wilshire toward Beverly Hills. So much for the "country." After moving from what's now the "Country Club District" because of development, members are throwing money up (so to speak) to hold their turf against ever-urbanizing and ever-higher-rising L.A....

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...tory_fence.php

You can see the Gilmore Adobe when you dine on the patio at Maggiano's, an Italian restaurant located in the Grove.

Thanks for the poop on the dog track, Gilmore!

HossC posted this aerial showing the dog track almost centered between Beverly Blvd. on the north and 3rd Street on the south and just east of Gilmore Stadium, which runs
north-south along Fairfax:
I poked around and found these relevant LA Times articles:

Sept 7, 1932; regarding the turtle reference, your guess is as good as mine:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original

June 9, 1933; I'm going on the assumption this is the same track referred to in the previous article:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original

"Option betting" was explained in an article three days later:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original

Aug 11, 1933:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original

Nov 17, 1933:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original

There was also a dog racing track in Culver City, on Washington Blvd just east of Lincoln, that was later used for midget auto racing:

http://looking-for-mabel.webs.com/whippetrace.htm
http://culvercityhistoricalsociety.org/?p=977
http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7

P.S. Thanks GW for the LACC info.

Two Bijous in LA? :shrug:

1918 - Bijou Theater @ 4006 East 1st Street.

1970's - 7059 Hollywood Blvd.? (Formerly the Hollywood Congressional Church and SAG Headquarters?)


Bijou Theater (Address is above Jean Harlow)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTQ2WDc2OA...TF4jD/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTQ2WDc2OA...TF4jD/$_57.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAxNVgxNj...+tg~~60_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAxNVgxNj...+tg~~60_57.JPG


1986 - Some Former SAG Presidents at 7065 Hollywood Blvd.
Front row, left to right: Ed Asner, William Schallert, Dennis Weaver. Back row: Leon Ames, Dana Andrews, Charlton Heston.
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vp19/...5_original.jpghttp://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vp19/...5_original.jpg Other notable former Presidents included names like Cagney, Montgomery, Murphy and Reagan.

I've highlighted Beverly Boulevard west of Beverly Hills as it appeared on this 1928 map. As GW's LA Times article suggests, it is now Sunset Boulevard. In 1928, the start of Sunset is marked near the right of the map below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

I was searching the thread for pictures of the Farmers Market the other day when I spotted the unrelated picture below, originally posted back on page 34.

When I looked closer, I realized that the Tanner Motor Livery Co. building is there in the background. Here's a reminder of how the building looked in 1927:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rMLBeaudry.jpg
USC Digital Library

Here's what the corner of 3rd and Beaudry looks like today:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BeaudryGSV.jpg
GSV

Previous posts on the Tanner Motor Livery Co,:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17942

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17954

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17971

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17989

Hell, that sounds like it would be cool to see even now, and I'm in my fifties. As a matter of fact even watching the northbound Amtrak appear around the bend as it pulled into Del Mar station was memorable way back when.

Although today we have a lot more passenger trains making the run, Del Mar station is, regrettably, closed--succeeded but not replaced by the new Solana Beach station.

The LACC was and is located on either side of Wilshire about a mile west the intersection with Santa Monica, so it really was out in the country at one time.

I seem to remember having read there was some other country club at one time located near Pico and Western; if memory serves this club still exists but not at that location.

Plebeian menu food....
 

I smile when I read these old menus. I suspect a lot of young people do not realize it but a ''Peanut butter and Jelly" sandwich was a common menu item in the 1940s.

Also, eating in your car at a ''Drive-In" was novel back in the day. There are still a few around in 2014 but they're very rare.

I guess the ''Drive-Thru'' has taken over. My research seems to indicate that people would rather get their meals at the window and be on their way.

In the photo below we see some way cool Anchor Hocking barrel tumbler water glasses. I see them as a symbol of the noir era. :D:cool::D

http://img0.foodservicewarehouse.com...king_5054U.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psea50c21c.jpg
LAPL

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5324f3c5/t...7-20140316/524
Aug. 1, 1981: Atomic Cafe at 1st and Alameda streets in Los Angeles.
(LATIMES.COM)

http://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/senorfish.jpg
http://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/Spice.jpg
(GSV - hosted by me)

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-0...,2639911.story

As the miniature golf craze ebbed . . . Fairfax Greens became Merlo's. Not clear whether Yale Market was raised or incorporated as part of the Merlo's structure.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9466 )

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066387.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066387.jpg

Mayhem at Beverly and Rosemont


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520AM.bmp.jpg
USCDL Dated Sept 22, 1951

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT Dec 10, 1950


In the '80s, the building housed the California School of Professional Psychology (as opposed to Amateur?); it now appears to be the Praise Christian Fellowship Foursquare Church. I suppose the lettering at top of the building in the early shots was "BCS"...?

Alwaysmore Gilmore...


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T...2520AM.bmp.jpg

A December 8, 1951, fire at Rand's Beverly Round Up, which turns out was just east of Herbert's at the SE corner of Beverly & Fairfax.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...2520AM.bmp.jpgBoston Public Library

We've seen this card before in BRR's round-up of Rand's Round Ups in post #13392


As seen before in Chuckaluck's prior post #20178
http://i.imgur.com/w1v6yMw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/m4QmWcV.jpg?1
cbstelevisioncity.com/

I am certain there are far better car spotters on the board, but the door handle placement , wheels, spare tire-in the front fender, and overall shape suggests to me that this is not an Austin-4.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0

34 Austin 10-4
http://classiccarcatalogue.com/A/aus...10-4saloon.jpghttp://classiccarcatalogue.com/A/aus...10-4saloon.jpg

Not having spend much time considering this, could it have been something from the Dodge-Plymouth family?
http://www.ply33.com/models/PD/images/rr20001227b.jpeghttp://www.ply33.com/models/PD/images/rr20001227b.jpeg

http://4-photos7.ebizautos.com/used-...65-28-1024.jpghttp://4-photos7.ebizautos.com/used-...65-28-1024.jpg