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George Patton, Local Boy
We all have heard of General Patton's exploits in World War Two, but he also had deep roots (and deep pockets) in the Los Angeles area.
He was born in San Gabriel Township, now San Marino, in 1885. His maternal grandfather was Benjamin Davis Wilson (the namesake of Mt. Wilson) and at one time Wilson owned Rancho San Pascual, which included the modern day cities of Pasadena, Altadena, South Pasadena, Alhambra, San Marino, and San Gabriel. He was also the second elected Mayor of Los Angeles. On June 9, 1945, General Patton returned to Los Angeles for a war bond drive with General Dolittle, which included a parade and speeches at the Coliseum and City Hall. Six months later he would be dead from injuries sustained in a car accident in Germany. Parade past Silverwoods: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg191...jpg&res=medium militarymashup.com Salute from Ft. Moore hill: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg401...jpg&res=medium Los Angeles Public Library Speeches at the Coliseum: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg46/...jpg&res=medium Los Angeles Public Library Here is a video of the activities: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yya7G...eature=related Patton and the other top WW2 American generals of the European theater: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2896/generals2.jpg Captain Earl Witscher, U.S. Army Signal Corps. If you look under Patton's right elbow, you can just see the tip of his ivory-handled (not pearled-handled) pistol. As Patton would say, "Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol." |
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Patton in San Marino
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...n_house350.jpgBTW
1220 Patton Court, San Marino: The family of General Patton lived here for over 60 years. Still standing and looking much the same, it was designed by Joseph Blick and built in 1909-10 while the future general was at West Point. More here: http://articles.latimes.com/1987-01-...8_1_san-marino |
Friday December 23rd, Primetime Noir on TCM set your dvr's
8:00 PM Backfire (1950) http://annyas.com/screenshots/images...itle-small.jpg i have never seen this one before, supposedly some of it is filmed in the fremont hotel at 4th and olive 10:00 PM Lady in the Lake (1947) http://images56.annyas.com/1946/lady...till-small.jpg 12:00 AM Murder, My Sweet (1944) http://images34.annyas.com/1944/murd...till-small.jpg |
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A glass negative found on ebay of the Los Angeles County Courthouse and the Hall of Records.
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8...seneg1912a.jpg ebay http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9...aseneg1912.jpg ebay The seller also included two details of the glass negative. below: I've never noticed that the top portion of the smaller arched windows were stained glass. I wonder if any of these windows survived or were they all smashed to bits with the rest of the building? Perhaps we should RESEARCH and try to find out the name of the company that was hired for its demolition. I would like to know if the debris was hauled off somewhere or simply buried at the site? An enormous building like this doesn't simply disappear....the remnants have to be somewhere. http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1...seneg1912b.jpg below: This particular entrance has the words 'ALL RECORDS' engraved above the doorway. I don't remember an apartment building being so close to the Hall of Records. Can anyone make out the name? (I can only make out the word apartments) http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2...allrecords.jpg ______ |
Maddux Air Lines ticket office in downtown Los Angeles.
The photo didn't include an address but you can clearly see # 634 on the left. http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/568...snodetaill.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=36908 After several searches I found an old time table that had addresses for Maddux Air Lines ticket offices, including Los Angeles (two locations) http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/381...iceaddress.jpg http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/tat.htm Using Google Street Views I traveled down Olive Street searching for #636. Unfortunately the little art deco trinket of a ticket office is long gone....a parking lot in its stead. (damn) ______ below: The original routes of Maddux Air Lines. They called it 'The Straight Route'. http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4...metableima.jpg http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/maddux.htm Maddux acquired new routes and became Transcontinental Air Transport-Maddux Airline (TAT-Maddux) http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9273/madduxt.jpg http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/tat.htm below: A map of the expanded TAT-Maddux routes. It seems odd that they skipped Chicago. http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3029/madduxth1a.jpg http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/tat.htm _____ |
That's hilarious! I never would have imagined that flying from L.A. to New York could have been so complicated. I wonder what airport in L.A. they called home. Would it have been LAX or whatever it was called then, or some other airfield?
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3940dxer, from the various pamphlets I came across it seems Grand Central (in Glendale) was the preference of Maddux Airlines.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7...ikipediaa1.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maddux_Air_Lines ____ |
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpgPaul Freeman
According to the Maddux timetable, flights were out of Rogers Field, which was at the northwest corner of Wilshire and Fairfax. Sometime after that--probably in the early '30s-- operations moved to Grand Central Air Terminal. |
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You're absolutely right about Rogers Airport....I read about it in the Maddux time tables but couldn't quite place it. I thought the airport at Wilshire and Fairfax was named something else.....after DeMille or Chaplin. Does that ring a bell? |
Thanks e_r for the additional info. Good stuff! I was thinking it might be one of those two airports. (Neither of which I'd heard of until reading about them here!)
As you know Rodgers Field was near the Tar Pits, near the eventual (2nd) location of the County Museum. My grandfather Herman Beck (mom's side) worked there in the 40's and 50's and created most (all?) of the animal sculptures on the outside grounds. I have some old photos and articles and plan to post them one of these days. (Also BTW, I've been sending my mom some links to this thread and urging her to participate, which she may do. She grew up in Mt. Washington and has a lot of interesting memories and stories.) I've only seen a few photos of the County Museum here. If anyone has more, esp. early ones, I would really like to see them. Haven't really found anything on LAPL or USC. |
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It seems that up at least 1921, 202 N. Broadway was the Alcazar Apartments--it's in the 1915 city directory there and on a 1921 insurance map--but after 1921, can't find the name at that address. The lettering on the building doesn't look like Alcazar to me. Sometimes I see "Mission"-- sometimes not. |
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The Reid Studio Apartments southwest corner of 7th Street & Mariposa Avenue, circa 1928.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/lpedYH.jpg LAPL below: The Reid Studio Apartment Building as it appears today. http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4...oaptstoday.jpg google street view below: Nice detail near the roof-line along Mariposa Avenue. http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9...detailon7t.jpg google street view below: Looking south on 7th Street showing the Embassy Apartments* on the left and the Reid Studio Apartment Building on the right. * Remember I'm the one with a fetish for those archaic signs that hover over old apartment buildings in Los Angeles. http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5...asseyaptac.jpg google street view below: A view of the deserted grounds of the Ambassador Hotel in 2005 shortly before its destuction. http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6...ungalowslo.jpg Tom Zimmerman Below: The empty ballroom of the Ambassador Hotel in 2005. http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/792...lroom2005t.jpg Tom Zimmerman below: The Ambassador Beach Club in 2005. http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8...lthclubpoo.jpg Tom Zimmerman I want to find some photos of the Ambassador Hotel in its heyday to compare with these forlorn photos from 2005. ___ |
This photograph, also from 2005, shows the Ambassador Hotel shortly before its demise.
The hideous addition from the 1950s protrudes out of the original hotel built in 1921. http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4...1chrisyunk.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris-y...n/photostream/ below: This vintage photo of the Ambassador Hotel surprises me. It looks as if an ugly front entrance has already been tacked onto the hotel. The sign advertises the very famous Coconut Grove (home to the Academy Awards) as well as Guy Lombardo's Orchestra. http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1...bassador2g.jpg http://hiddenlosangeles.com/wp-conte...mbassador2.jpg Why didn't they hire an architect to design an entrance that was sympathetic to the original design? Maybe I'm wrong.....perhaps this IS the original entrance, but I highly doubt it. ____ |
Amazing before and after view of the expansive Ambassador Hotel property. Wilshire Boulevard is on the right.
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4...otelbefore.jpg http://pyramidbeach.com/tag/jocko-weyland/ http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7...sadorafter.png http://pyramidbeach.com/tag/jocko-weyland/ The Embassy Apartments at 7th & Mariposa (that I mentioned earlier) can be seen at the top of the aerial just to the left of the new 'entrance' used by the demolition company to enter the property. I can see that an apartment building next to The Embassy was destroyed just to create this new entrance. -sick- PROGRESS can really suck sometimes. :( |
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The backside of the Ambassador Hotel looking north toward Wilshire Boulevard in 1932.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8...sadorhotel.jpg LAPL |
Hollywood call girl Helen Keller arrested in 1949.
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A stockpile of drinking water and crackers beneath the state buildings circa 1963.
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"Why didn't they hire an architect to design an entrance that was sympathetic to the original design?
Maybe I'm wrong.....perhaps this IS the original entrance, but I highly doubt it" That is part of the original design of the hotel, done by architect Myron Hunt. It was added on to over the years... |
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...assadornew.jpgCitizine
Not an especially clear pic--it doesn't really help identify what the original center of the facade looked like--but it must be from very soon after the Ambassador's opening. I'm surprised not to find any good, clear shots from the time of its construction online. |
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520PM.bmp.jpgThe Atlantic
I think we do it better, but the article did bring my attention to a neighborhood I knew nothing about: http://www.theatlanticcities.com/nei...1894-2011/785/ "East of the Los Angeles River, Prospect Park is still intact but its surroundings have changed a bit. No longer a quiet residential area, the neighborhood has filled in and a cluster a freeways surround it to the north, west, and east." |
:previous: It would be interesting to find out more about this area.
It's in close proximity to the Los Angeles County Hospital (the hospital is a few blocks to the northeast). The park that it's named after appears as a heart on some old maps if I remember correctly. |
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(Maybe it's me, but I usually have a hard time when searching for old posts here--they never seem to be on the page to which the "search" box takes me--but I did find this, and I'm reminded of the incredible treasure trove of information that has been gathered here.) |
:previous: Yep, that's it G_W! It looks like the park is slowly morphing into a circle in that aerial google photo.
_____ The first day of trackless trolleys at the corner of 6th Street and Broadway in 1947. http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/437...sstrolleys.jpg UCLA Digital Archives I was looking at this photo today and noticed the store on the right. The visible portions of the two signs say LLDOM and SW....so I was trying to figure it out when I noticed the name in small print above a window. It was SWELLDOM? I had never heard of SWELLDOM. I googled a bit and found this photo showing the store in 1938 (and a Paul Revere impersonator) http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4...om1938lapl.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=70587 ...here's another. http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5...omsignlapl.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067422.jpg Here is the beautiful building today minus the Swelldom Store. http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/4...esundrugbu.jpg google street view This detail of the building shows it was originally The Sun Drug Co. Building. http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7...ndrugcobld.jpg google street view Lastly this came up in my search. I remember seeing this wonderful postcard from numerous postings in this thread and elsewhere. Much to my surprise there on the right hand side in vivid blue is the Swelldom sign! I have NO IDEA how I missed it!!! It was such a surprise to me that I would have bet money that the Swelldom sign had been photoshopped in. http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/790...ldomnoirpc.jpg postcard view Does anyone have any other information on the Swelldom Store? _____ |
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Books Fantastic post, e_r, full of info. I've run across Swelldom in pics before too, thought it an odd name, but never until now wondered what it sold. Here's a little history from a 1915 issue of "American Cloak and Suit Review." Looks like they moved twice on the same side of the same block--521, 535, and then into the Sun Building at 559, where it still was in the 1956 city directory--listed by then, interestingly enough, as "Swelldom Cloak and Suit House." Apparently it soon went way of so many of the old downtown stores--it doesn't appear in CDs after 1960... Not that I wouldn't prefer them to modern buses.. but I don't like seeing those trackless trolleys. Next thing you know, the semaphore and the PCC car at the lower right corner of your first picture will be gone... and then Swelldom--and then the corner of 6th and B'way will look like it does now.... well, at least there is still the Sun Building itself, which I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out. |
:previous: Thanks for the information on the Swelldom Store G_W, I really appreciate it.
____ This is Miss Velma, Queen of the Christmas Pageant. Her Universal World Church was/is located in none other than Los Angeles. http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6224/missvelma.jpg http://ellenbloom.blogspot.com/2011/...-holidays.html below: Miss Velma's invitation to "the most splendiferously beautiful event in 6000 years!" http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8...invitation.jpg unknown Click on the Links below to see Miss Velma in all her glory!! The best part of this clip is her entrance in a tiny home-made bus. It's hilarious! http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9...vesintinyb.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH4m4g3MOAQ link broken, sorry In this clip Miss Velma enters as a floating angel. http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6...endingange.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoN9MeKI0tk [link broken, sorry] In my brief venture into the land of Miss Velma I was unable to come up with a photograph of the actual Universal World Church. This seems a bit strange since the building had to be HUGE to hold all her props, her ego, and that three and a half ton tree of life. ______ |
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1937 http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066083.jpg LAPL The high school, from Curbed LA: http://la.curbed.com/uploads/2010.07...lhawthorne.jpg Conga Line at the Cocoanut Grove, 1940 http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics41/00055459.jpg LAPL Also in 1940, the Andrews Sisters were headlining the Cocoanut Grove. http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2928/dws452isla.jpg USC Archive Hmm, now that I think about it, I think the shell of the Cocoanut Grove was saved, or part of it was: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...k_centered.jpg Wikipedia I could be wrong, but I thought I remember hearing that it was going to be converted to the school's auditorium or cafeteria or something. In this shot from 1987, it looks like that awful modernistic facade was just tacked on to the front of the original Cocoanut Grove. http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics41/00055458.jpg LAPL |
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I think you could be correct sopas_ej. They wiped the slate clean except for the area that was once the Cocoanut Grove. http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/710...sadorafter.png It looks as if they saved the bare minimum.....perhaps to satisfy historians. ______ |
Oh...I almost forgot, this is Miss Velma's husband Dr. O.L. Jagger, her first cousin.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7...roljaggers.jpg unkown I'm very close to my first cousins but I can't imagine marrying one of them. (ick) His credentials.. http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1...ersaldocto.jpg I found this once and can't find it again. Miss Velma is also known as Dr. Velma Jagger.......but without as many doctorates as her husband. ______ |
I said WOW when I came across this illustration for the proposed Universal World Church in Los Angeles.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3...ersalworld.jpg found and lost/the jaggers are working their hocus-pocus. I've seen this structure before on a god awful postcard. Thinking it was pure fiction I filed it away. I can't wait to dig it up and see if it's the same design. Off I go! |
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http://www.universalworldchurch.org/...urch_front.jpgWiki
According to the site, "The Mother Church of the Universal World Church occupied a building at 123 N. Lake Street in Los Angeles, California from the time of the church's founding in 1958, until the time the building was demolished in 2003. The building was described by Frank Zappa as a "quonset hut". Prior to 1958, the site was the home of Calvary Temple whose pastor was Leroy M. Kopp. The site is now occupied by the Lake Street Primary Center, a public school of the Los Angeles Unified School district and its address is 135 N. Lake Street." I'm reeling here, e_r-- such an embarrassment of noir/crazy L.A. riches, a real Christmas present. Leave it to you, our esteemed founder, to find Velma and Lee.... who appears to have a touch of Liberace in him. Why have I never before heard of this Aimee clone? Santa Claus in high heels, appearing more drunk than holy in one of the video clips? "The Miss Velma Singers and Musicians and Orchestra"? The "Great Vision Christmas Tree of Life"? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...iccomplete.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...ingarticle.jpgLA Times 7-22-1957 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f...2520AM.bmp.jpgLA Times 2-28-1959 I wish I could stay here and dig up any current info on the Jaggers.... are they still around? Dead? In jail? Not that I'm a cynic or anything, but surely there must be some more high-noir twists to their story.... |
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Seasonal-type Greetings to the whole gang here at Noirish Los Angeles. You all make this place my absolute favorite corner of the Internet.
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A Very Merry Noir Christmas!
http://www.universalworldchurch.org/...ages/fire2.gif
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...5%252520PM.jpg I have rushed to get Christmas Eve chores done today--I've been crazed to steal a little more time to investigate the Jaggers. Alas, no noir scandal popped up immediately, no Aimee-like staged drownings. But there were multiple marriages, fatherhood at 17, relentless dunning of poor parishoners, flying saucers, and more madcap theatrics than Sister Aimee ever dreamed up. More flames like the one above here: http://www.universalworldchurch.org/...inkillers.html. And in the priceless words of Frank Zappa, of which the church itself seems bizarrely, inordinately proud: http://www.universalworldchurch.org/...l_World_Church. (Courtesy of the the church's own website.) Sadly, The Reverend Dr. Orval Lee "O. L." Jaggers and Dr. Velma "Miss Velma" Mary Lee Jaggers and all their impressive degrees have gone to heaven or to nirvana or to whichever brand of paradise they subscribed to, presumably in the lie-flat, first-class cabin of a saucer... or, better yet, their own private saucer. (Do I love this story, or what?) http://www.universalworldchurch.org/...al_Lee_Jaggers http://www.universalworldchurch.org/..._Velma_Jaggers |
Wow G_W, the Jaggers have some delightfully bizarre history! I can't make heads or tails of that bizarre web site. Do they still exist on some level and actually run this as their official site, or do you think it's more of a tongue in cheek tribute, in the wacky spirit of the original church? I'm not, sure though I'd guess the latter.
It seems there were a number of kooky, eccentric churches that were based in L.A. I've run across a few others and will try to post something one of these days. But I'd never heard of the Jaggers before and this a great one. Thanks for posting this! |
Merry christmas and happy new year!
I have been lurking on this site for several days! My family is getting upset because dinner is usually late and conversations are stilted and halting between my exclamations while looking at all the pictures.
I'm a native Angeleno and plan on moving back to California next year. I did not know some of the history that you all have been posting. I'm still going through (currently up to June 2010). I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate this site and Thank you to all for educating all of us on my hometown!:tup: Happy Holidays!! |
Telephone Office 1899
This was Los Angeles' first telephone pay station, at 228 So. Spring St., in 1899. The first telephone line between San Francisco and Los Angeles had just been opened, and long distance calls to the Bay City were being stimulated. The young man, Roy E. Jillson, was messenger boy then and was still an employee of the telephone company in 1934.
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Some time I ago, I read that long-distance phone calls used to be very expensive, which is why as recently as the 1950s and 1960s, it was still more common to send telegrams to communicate with family members cross country. Even when I was a child in the 1970s, "long-distance" calls seemed to still be a big deal, and of course "overseas" calls were an even bigger deal (relatives from the Philippines would sometimes call us on special days like holidays or birthdays, and I remember the quality was really bad, there was a horrible echo, and my mom would say "hang up and we'll call you back" and then the echo would disappear when we called them back). BTW Merry X-mas to everyone! :) |
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Just goes to show you
Talk is cheap today, but not then at least not when you were on the telephone.
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Using an inflation index, that 50 cent a minute call would cost $12.93 in 2010. But just think of it. This was modern technology for people back then. To be able to even make the call was probably pretty impressive.
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This being a site dealing with architecture as well as noir, I wish I could find a vintage shot of Calvary Temple at 123 N. Lake. I don't know if its original incarnation was as a more mainstream church, but it does seem to have been a major venue for a long line of faith healers. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...eachersREV.jpgLA Times12-23-1950 & 2-3-1951 |
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