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I think CBD must be referring to the ICS/Engineering Research Facility at UC Irvine, designed by Gehry in the mid-80s. Everything fits apart from the building being on the west coast. It was razed in 2007. More info here. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AGehryUCI1.jpg www.ocregister.com |
A little history of the palm tree in Los Angeles can be found here:
https://www.atlasobscura.com/article...in-los-angeles https://assets.atlasobscura.com/medi...night_1930.jpg (http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/21827/rec/18 via atlasobscura.com) |
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Absurd, of course. Have you ever been to a concert at Disney Hall? Been to Bilbao? To 8 Spruce in NY? Have you actually spent time in any of his buildings? Wright was an iconoclast too, so was Philip Johnson. Some of all three of these architects' buildings are bombs, but there's a reason the designers are famous, and it wasn't because they "hated people," whatever you mean by that. Speaking of famous architects, LA's own John Parkinson is the subject of Stephen Gee's documentary companion to his Parkinson monograph, Iconic Vision: John Parkinson, Architect of Los Angeles, airing during the next few weeks (see schedule below). https://s22.postimg.cc/4lps1vkwx/iconic1a.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/9yj7tb37l/listingsfnl.bmp.jpg |
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the photo was taken: September 1903 to February 1904. Police Matron Lucy U. Gray, the shorter of the two women in the front row, died February 29, 1904 (a leap year), so obviously the photo wasn't taken after that (she was appointed Matron in July 1889, not July 1888): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psyrcbq1qv.jpg March 1, 1904, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC William A. Hammel didn't become LAPD Chief until April 6, 1904. So, since Matron Gray is in the photo, the chief at the time was Charles Elton, who resigned April 5, 1904. So why isn't Chief Elton in the photo? I think he was standing at the left edge of the photo, which was cut off after his resignation, an event that probably occurred not long after the photo was taken. Look how the photo is framed slightly off-center; there's empty space next to the last man on the right side of the photo, but not on the left side. For comparison, here's an 1889 photo of the LAPD with Chief John M. Glass at far left in the front row: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psq6pyd1ue.jpg Los Angeles Police Department by Thomas G. Hays, Arthur W. Sjoquist and the Los Angeles Police Historical Society (Arcadia Publishing, 2005) @ Google Books The Police Commission conducted its semi-annual inspection of the LAPD on October 6, 1903, so, e_r, it's possible your photo was taken on that occasion: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4sol7ovy.jpg October 7, 1903, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC However, I don't think the photo could have been taken before Friday, September 11, 1903. The following is from the September 13, 1903, Los Angeles Herald column entitled "Among Colored Citizens": http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psbnswkyam.jpg CDNC Here is a c. 1912 photo of William W. Glenn, seated on the right (the LAPD hired its first African-American officers in 1889, not 1886): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pshbxpeede.jpg Los Angeles Police Department by Thomas G. Hays, Arthur W. Sjoquist and the Los Angeles Police Historical Society (Arcadia Publishing, 2005) @ Google Books Compare that photo of William W. Glenn with the man in the center of this close-up from your photo, e_r. It sure looks to me like the same guy, but a little younger: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pso8xwm3lu.jpg |
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I understand some folks don't get Frank Gehry, but I love his work.
I'd like to see him redo the Washington Monument! While in Prague last month, I finally got to see this FG stunner up close: http://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/gehryprague.JPG (Photographed and hosted by me) |
I happened upon two 1920s snapshots this afternoon on Ebay.
#1 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/8vpn7h.jpg EBAY I forgot (if I ever knew) that there was a Hotel (& Apts) ALHAMBRA on both sides of N. Broadway. (have we talked about this before?) hmm #2 'mystery' vantage point. Does anyone know what roof the photographer would have been standing on to get this view? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/r6iuKy.jpg EBAY This one seems vaguely familiar (but I believe I'm thinking of the recent "military guys on leave staying at the YMCA" photo) _ |
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Yes, all of the famous architects had their occasional mistake. People are not perfect 100% of the time.. One of our noirishers compared the typical FG design to a stack of potato chips. His assessment is spot on. Life's a bowl of cherries....eh. |
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Below is a view at a similar angle, this time probably from the Consolidated Realty Building, dated a few years earlier. Panoramic view of Los Angeles, looking north from a building on the corner of Hill Street from 6th Street, 1913 http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original USC Digital Library |
:previous: EXCELLENT Hoss! !
"The empty lot just above the roof is the former location of the Hotel Lillie and First Methodist Episcopal Church, vacated to make way for the Metropolitan/Paramount Theatre." I was wondering about the empty lot. Thanks Quote:
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tM6Cze.png calisphere The photographer was higher up than I first thought. I just rechecked the snap and I believe you are correct Hoss. Thanks :) _ |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original Huntington Digital Library HDL also has some interior shots (which were probably in WS1911's post) - here's one of them. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original Huntington Digital Library The B&M Cafeteria was replaced by Boos Cafeteria, which can be seen in the second half of post #21267. |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original Detail of image in USC Digital Library They had all gone by 1920 (which was probably a good idea!). Quote:
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Hi Everybody,
I'm looking for a picture of the Adele Hotel at 444 S. Spring Street, 1910 - 1935. I appreciate any help you can give me. |
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https://s22.postimg.cc/4z9nkrwcx/par...inebridge2.jpg I think Paris's version is great too. Perhaps our own impeccably credentialed architecture critics, Dougie, Diana, etc would care to offer learned critiques? (en garde Banham, Huxtable, Goldberger, Kennicott, Filler, and Muschamp) |
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I have spent time in a couple of his buildings and you have a point. It's better to be inside one so you aren't forced to look at it. Reminds me of the French writer Guy de Maupassant who used to eat at the Eiffel Tower restaurant every day and a person finally asked him once, "If you hate the Eiffel Tower so much, why do you eat there?" and he replied something to the effect "It's the only place in Paris I can eat lunch without looking at it." I'm not an expert in architecture, but I know that Gehry's buildings produce negative feelings, thoughts, vibrations or any other word like those from a Thesaurus, when I see one in person or in photographs. So let someone else who is versed in architecture talk about him: https://articlelink/frank-gehry-is-still-the-worlds-worst-living-architect-1523113249 While it's been widely known for at least a decade that Frank Gehry is the world's worst living architect, it's not entirely clear why some people—mostly very rich clients—haven't picked up on this yet. The utterly god awful Biomuseo in Panama, an eco-discovery center that cost at least $60 million and took a decade to construct, is only the most recent case in point. Gehry long ago stopped pursuing any interesting material or tectonic experimentation—and he used to be an interesting architect!—to become the multi-billion dollar equivalent of a Salvador Dalì poster tacked to the wall in a stoned lacrosse player's dorm room, an isn't-it-trippy pile of pseudo-psychedelic bullshit that everyone but billionaire urban developers can see through right away. What's particularly frustrating about Gehry's career is that he's somehow meant to be cool, a kind of sci-fi architect for the Millennial generation, a Timothy Leary of CAD; but he's Guy Fieri, his buildings hair-gelled monsters of advanced spatial douchebaggery. His work is badly constructed, ravey-balls hair metal, a C.C. DeVille guitar solo that cannot—will not—end until the billionaire clients who keep paying for this shit can be stopped. Worse, no matter how much diagrammatic handwaving someone like architectural theorist extraordinaire Peter Eisenman can do—and he can do an awful lot of it—to convince you that Gehry is, or was once long ago, on to something interesting, these buildings are not even compelling from a theoretical standpoint. So, yeah, he used software normally found in airplane design—great. That's awesome. I can imagine amazing things coming out of such an irreverent mixing of design tools. But the results are just crumpled Reynold's Wrap on an otherwise white-bread interior, a boring, room-by-room grid surrounded by hair spray, like some lunatic version of Phyllis Diller blown up to the size of a city block and frozen mid-stroke. Gehry has already built the worst new residential building in New York City of the past five years [IS THIS THE ONE YOU MENTIONED GW? 8 SPRUCE?], and now he's on his way to ruin part of downtown Berlin with a faux-golden Accessorize trinket you'd expect to find at a roller rink in suburban Wisconsin, a hypertrophied JWoww unsuspecting Germans can someday live within. But it's no use. We're stuck now. It's like being forced to watch M. Night Shyamalan films when you were hoping for David Cronenberg, or being stuck in a room with Steve Vai when you thought you were listening to Andrés Segovia. No doubt, in a city council out there even as I type this [WEST HOLLYWOOD], some doe-eyed general manager is shaking up a can of crazy string and preparing to enfecalize an entire neighborhood near you with the pink slime of another Frank Gehry, a man for whom architecture is all McNuggets, all the time. The tech world might have Moore's Law, but architecture has found its own unbreakable rule: year after year, Frank Gehry will always get worse. --Geoff Manaugh And if you want to broaden the scale, read this: Why You Hate Contemporary Architecture (And if you don’t, why you should…) by Brianna Rennix & Nathan J. Robinson https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...y-architecture Quote:
This reminds me of the monologue Jessica Lange had in TOOTSIE, when she was in her childhood room and her mother asked her what kind of wallpaper she'd like to have and she came up with all these ideas and notions and her mother then explained to her that she could have that if she wanted, but reminded her that what she chose is something she'd see every morning when she woke up and every night when she went to bed and all the other times she'd be in her room...dreaming...or with friends or by herself doing schoolwork. Gehry buildings might "break up the monotony", but most of life is monotony and his buildings do nothing to inspire one in those moments or comfort them or give a sense of possibility. They give a sense of warning signs like what that sign says over the castle entrance in The Wizard of Oz: "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here." Quote:
...something you'd see every morning when you wake up and every night when you went to bed and all the other times of your day... :shrug: I'd like to get Frank Gehry. Get him away from working and into retirement. Seriously, who would want to see this building e v e r y...s i n g l e...d a y . . . |
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There have been several responses to this Vermonica post, e.g., http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=44278 and http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=44280 It is unknown whether a link to this "Huell" episode was also included on NLA. It not only covers Vermonica, but the latter portion offers numerous closeups of miscellaneous saved street lighting, including a Westwood Village exemplar featuring Bruin blue and gold tiles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=uBeqwqiTYis An observation is offered near the end of the video that maintenance and energy expenses are a big impediment for continued use of older street lighting. Wonder if current advances in LED lighting might affect that thinking.:shrug: Wilshire Specials? 1937 - Wilshire near Figueroa (Shultheis) http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=512&DMY=0&DM http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...=512&DMY=512&DLAPL 1937 Goodrich Store on Wilshire (No street address provided. Could it be listed as 3057 Wilshire?) * http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=512&DMY=0&DM http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...512&DMY=512&DMLAPL *Source also identifies this structure as "Exterior view of the Goodrich Store on Wilshire Boulevard." Street width suggests otherwise :shrug: http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=512&DMY=0&DM http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...512&DMY=512&DMLAPL |
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