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Graybeard Dec 25, 2014 11:37 AM

Merry Christmas!
 
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/8025/cRQIxU.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/The-Fat-Man-Tale-North/dp/B004J8HXIG
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7100/WvnM9o.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img537/7100/WvnM9o.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img537/7100/WvnM9o.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img537/7100/WvnM9o.jpg

HossC Dec 25, 2014 12:20 PM

"Broadway looking north-east from 10th Street (now, Olympic Boulevard), showing Christmas decorations along the sides of the street, December 1930"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

For reference, the same view eighty-three and a half years later (June 2014).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wayJun2014.jpg
GSV

Merry Christmas to all those who contribute to NLA, and to those of you who just read :cheers:.

HossC Dec 26, 2014 1:12 AM

A festive postcard from 1953.

Christmastime at Los Angeles's Original Farmers Market.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...armersXmas.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2014 1:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srk1941 (Post 6855612)
This is in Long Beach. That modern high-rise on the right is the Royal Palms, the older high-rise on the left is the Lafayette.

This must be taken from a balcony at the Long Beach Towers, at 600 E. Ocean, at Atlantic. The same circular driveway is still there, though the planter box has been modified.

Thank you srk1941.

Based on your information this is pretty much where the photographer was standing when he snapped the 1962 vintage view.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/cpt9wu.png
GSV





...but I haven't been able to located this building (with the red arrow ->).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/gQcKQs.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2014 2:14 AM

Mysterious objet d'art in front of NBC studios at Sunset & Vine, Hollywood.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/Jn17W2.jpg
ebay




below: The seller seems to think it's a 'feather' (representing the NBC color Peacock), but he also mistakenly placed the photograph in Burbank.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/oBSMqD.png
ebay

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ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2014 2:43 AM

Fire at the 'Swing Club', 1710 N. Las Palmas Avenue ca.1937.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/VnNrWz.jpg
ebay



interior
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/H8Qb3q.jpg
ebay



details
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/iIgfXX.jpg
ebay


1710 N. Las Palmas Ave. today (Hollywood Blvd. is at right)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/PZFAqF.png
GSV

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HossC Dec 27, 2014 5:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5133047)

The picture above, a 1943 image posted by gsjansen, shows Ye Bull Pen Inn in Calle de los Negros. The one below shows an earlier location at 633 S Hope Street. It's dated at 1920s by the seller, which ties in with the first and only listing at that address I could find in the City Directories in the 1921 edition (where it's actually listed at 631 S Hope). By 1923, 633 S Hope is home to a restaurant called C F de Long.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BullPenInn.jpg
eBay

Ye Bull Pen Inn reappears at 535 S Grand Avenue in the 1929 CD. Up until a couple of years earlier, that had been the location of the Key West Hotel (aka Apartments/Rooms). They were listed at 533 S Grand, which is the same location as the one given in BifRayRock's picture below. Ye Bull Pen Inn only shows up at that address in 1929, so that gives a pretty good guess for the date of this picture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6035853)

Speaking of "Unique" advertising and cafes, anyone familiar with Ye Bull Pen Inn at 533 South Grand? I hear it's "Famous For Steaks." (I wouldn't ask if the placard included the words "great" or "fine." :koko:)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics25/00062246.jpg
LAPL


fhammon Dec 27, 2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6857213)
The picture above, a 1943 image posted by gsjansen, shows Ye Bull Pen Inn in Calle de los Negros. The one below shows an earlier location at 633 S Hope Street. It's dated at 1920s by the seller, which ties in with the first and only listing at that address I could find in the City Directories in the 1921 edition (where it's actually listed at 631 S Hope). By 1923, 633 S Hope is home to a restaurant called C F de Long.

I apologize for the hijack but being a Plazaphile, that building has been of interest to me for quite awhile after having seen this particular photo depicting the infamous Calle de los Negros as described by both Maj. Horace Bell and Harris Newmark in it's last days. I believe that was reason for the photo which ER (gsjansen originally) posted..... years ago!. I'm much stuck into Ferguson Alley, Jerry's Joynt, The Lugo House etc.

Notice how the far left building, left of the pole, is incorporated into the new one.

http://waterandpower.org/1%20Histori...egro_Calle.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...29_Page_1.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5490083)
below: The ram-shackled building along Calle de los Negros was eventually replaced by this rather impressive building.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/774...ey1910susc.jpg
usc digital archive

below: In the 1940s the 'calle de los negros' building sported a tacky new entrance
that was advertised as the "shortest route to Union Station".

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/941...40shortest.jpg
LAPL

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5254/5...2ba29e43_z.jpg https://www.flickr.com/photos/33455118@N08/5389901205/

Handsome Stranger Dec 27, 2014 11:38 PM

It's the final curtain for the former United Artists Theater / Four Star Theater at 5112 Wilshire Blvd.

1932, the United Artists Theater:
http://36.media.tumblr.com/d69f5d7e9...rtso1_1280.png
[source: Huntington Digital Library]

1937: renamed the Four Star Theater, Frank Capra's Lost Horizon premiered here:
http://40.media.tumblr.com/b4a90eb6b...rtso2_1280.jpg
[source: Los Angeles Public Library]

December 2014:
http://40.media.tumblr.com/f0f397077...rtso1_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/0f3b7c992...rtso2_1280.jpg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb86cceec...rtso4_1280.jpg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/96a8a5ec8...rtso3_1280.jpg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/4c00d6ba3...rtso5_1280.jpg

[image source: me]

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2014 11:38 PM

:previous: Well that sucks.
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Los Angeles & Redondo Railway Co., 1901 railway pass.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/0G799W.jpg
ebay

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/5BECaU.jpg

...anyone familiar with this railway company?
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Handsome Stranger Dec 27, 2014 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6857410)
Los Angeles & Redondo Railway Co., 1901 railway pass.

...anyone familiar with this railway company?
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Apparently it was one of the eight railway companies that were consolidated in 1911 to form the Pacific Electric Railway Company.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq...fzrno1_500.gif
[source: tumblr]

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2014 12:25 AM

:previous: Thanks Handsome_Stranger. It's actually larger than I imagined (with it's 3 separate routes).

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6853760)
I can't find any previous NLA references to the "ultra-modern barber shop" at the Ambassador Hotel. The seller thinks the postcard is circa 1950s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dorBarber1.jpg
eBay


below: You can see HossC's barber shop across the hall in this photograph. (I just re-discovered in an old file of mine)

This looks like the beauty salon, circa 1951.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/cMb0OP.jpg
old file

After taking a closer look at the windows and glass door....this is the barber shop.

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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2014 12:45 AM

In the same file I found a few photographs of the pool area.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/WfCotA.jpg
ofilm




slightly closer
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/k0RRln.jpg
ofilm




below: In this view a sign has been added to the poolside building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/xROLuI.jpg
ofilm




Here's a room at the Ambassador, circa 1951.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/DVPDOb.jpg
ofilm

-note the television (in 1951!)
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HossC Dec 28, 2014 1:07 AM

Ben's Restaurant, 12004 Wilshire Boulevard, circa 1950s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4Wilshire1.jpg
eBay

California Wok, 12004 Wilshire Boulevard, 2014.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4Wilshire2.jpg
GSV

According to propertyshark.com, the restaurant building dates from 1942, and the building next door (below) was constructed in 1953.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...08Wilshire.jpg
GSV

Then I spotted this little building at 12020 Wilshire Boulevard. Now occupied by the School of Rock, propertyshark.com says this one was built in 1936. I don't know what it was originally - historic Streetview images show it boarded up in 2007 with a neon sign left over from when it was the Bruin Flower Shop, and as Pineapple Fitness in 2009.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...20Wilshire.jpg
GSV

OutlawImages Dec 28, 2014 1:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6855372)
This is the Temple of Truth, built by Louis Waynai, a 54-year-old Hungarian cabinet maker, to house the world's largest Bible. The Bible measured 43.5 inches high and 98 inches wide when open, and had a 34 inch spine when closed. Apparently, his original idea was to exhibit the bible in his own house, but he ended up having to build this little church instead.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ynaiBible1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ynaiBible2.jpg
eBay

There's a video of Mr Waynai making his Bible on YouTube:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ynaiBible3.jpg
Critical Past/YouTube

Here's the rubber stamp wheel he used to print the Bible ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ynaiBible4.jpg
Critical Past/YouTube

... and the finished tome. The lady in the background is Louis's wife, Theresa.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ynaiBible5.jpg
Critical Past/YouTube

None of the articles I found gave an address for the Temple of Truth, but the City Directories provided me with an address of 1165 E 61st Street for Louis Waynai and his wife. There's a small parking lot there now, but at 1167 E 61st Street is the building below. Obviously, the dome is missing, but the detail on the porch looks the same, and the window configuration also matches (I think the pointed tops were just painted on). If it had been on the other side of the street, it would have been lost when the Diego Rivera Learning Complex was built a few years ago.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ynaiBible6.jpg
GSV

I expect you're all wondering what happened to the Bible. According to an article I found at blogs.acu.edu, the Bible was purchased in 1947 by Rosen Heights Church of Christ in Ft Worth, Texas. In 1956, the congregation donated it to ACU (Abilene Christian University in Abilene, Texas), where it was exhibited in the Library until 2013. After that, ACU agreed to loan the Bible to the Green Collection of Oklahoma City to be displayed as part of its touring exhibit (it can be disassembled into 31 sections for moving purposes).

Great story about an oddity like they used to love to make

Found this link with short video

Read this below and stumbled onto this retronaut


This copy of the entire King James Bible was completed by Louis Waynai in Los Angeles, CA, in 1930, two years after he had begun the project. Devoting more than 8,700 hours to the book, Mr. Waynai printed the text using a large home-made rubber stamp press.

When laid open, the Waynai Bible measures 43.5 inches tall and 98 inches wide. Closed, the spine is 34 inches thick. The book has 8,048 pages and weighs in at 1,094 pounds.”

http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/...ps67aa8e80.jpg


http://www.retronaut.com/2014/06/the-waynai-bible/

HossC Dec 28, 2014 1:27 AM

Interesting Ambassador pictures, e_r. As I mentioned in a recent post, there are loads of pictures of the hotel on LAPL, but many of them date from just before it was demolished. Older images showing the hotel in use give a much better view of what it was really like.


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Is it too late for another Christmas picture? We seem to have a lot of pictures from Wilshire today, but I assume it's coincidental. This picture, looking west on Wilshire Boulevard from near the base of the E Clem Wilson Building, is dated as 1960s by the seller. That seems reasonable since the tower at 5455 Wilshire was completed in 1961. On the corner just in front of the nearest Christmas tree is the Huddle Restaurant at 5301 Wilshire Boulevard. Its incarnation as Tilford's was discussed again recently in post #25114.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shireXmas1.jpg
eBay

On the left of the picture above is the Fox Ritz Theatre at 5214 Wilshire Boulevard. According to cinematreasures.org, the Ritz Theatre survived until 1977 when it was demolished to make way for a parking lot. There are more pictures of the Fox Ritz Theatre in BifRayRock's post #9808 and Flyingwedge's post #17458. It was only a block away from the United Artists Theater/Four Star Theater - see Handsome Stranger's demolition pictures above. That building still looks great on GSV!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ireFoxRitz.jpg
cinematreasures.org

The current 45 degree views on Google Maps still show a parking lot on the southeast corner of Wilshire and La Brea, but the overhead and street views show the new residential development previously mentioned by Tourmaline in post #16495. This is as near as I could get to the postcard view with the Googlemobile.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shireXmas2.jpg
GSV

Wig-Wag Dec 28, 2014 2:44 AM

[QUOTE=HossC;

California Wok, 12004 Wilshire Boulevard, 2014.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4Wilshire2.jpg
GSV

I can't help but wonder if the sign on the roof affected their business!

Cheers,
Jack

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2014 2:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 6857408)

It's the final curtain for the former United Artists Theater / Four Star Theater at 5112 Wilshire Blvd.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb86cceec...rtso4_1280.jpg




Some atmospheric photographs of the Four Star Theater during the 1938 premier of 'In Old Chicago'. (it appears to have been quite windy that night)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/3eVWF9.jpg
ofilm





below: If you look closely, you can make out the giant letters spelling 'In Old Chicago'.
(I'm not sure where all the automobiles were parked / Was there an empty lot across from the theater?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/yhK240.jpg
ofilm
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Not as atmospheric, but interesting none the less. (giant 'CHICAGO' lettering at left)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/nM6NsO.jpg
ebay?
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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2014 3:10 AM

A couple more photographs if you don't mind.



The 'Four Star' shortly before it opened as the United Artists Theater in 1930. It was renamed the Four Star in 1937 (shortly before the 'In Old Chicago' premier as seen above).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/07UelR.jpg
CalState/archives



...and FIFTY years later in 1980, showing movies from India.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/T0PNCX.jpg
Tom Zimmerman

This is just a few years before I moved to los Angeles.

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HossC Dec 28, 2014 3:32 AM

More Wilshire Boulevard! I came across a blurry, washed out version of the postcard below on eBay earlier tonight. Luckily, I found this better version.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wilighter1.jpg
www.cardcow.com

Here's a closer (and real) look at the Wilshire Twilighter Motor Hotel at 4300 Wilshire Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wilighter2.jpg
jericl cat on Flickr

And a night shot. One of the comments under this picture says it was built in 1957 and designed by Sam Reisbord.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wilighter3.jpg
Jordan Smith (The Pie Shops) on Flickr

I also found this matchbook.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wilighter4.jpg
eBay

Today, the Twilighter survives as The Dunes Inn.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wilighter5.jpg
GSV

CityBoyDoug Dec 28, 2014 3:46 AM

Remember those who are without....
 
Union Rescue Mission - Los Angeles, 1930s

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...sf9bf31e9.jpeg
The nickel

Those Who Squirm! Dec 28, 2014 4:23 AM

I lived in this neighborhood from 1990 to well into the 2000s; I remember the Bruin Flower Shop was locked shut for pretty much all that time, throughout which it looked like the owners simply closed up like they had done at the end of any other business day, and decided they were done. Nobody ever came to remove or sell off the display fixtures, and I'm not 100% sure that there weren't leftover cuttings or other dried plant materials.

ETA: I often used to get take-out from the California Wok. IIRC, that mural or wallpaper shown above one of the booths in Hoss's picture is still there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6857460)
Ben's Restaurant, 12004 Wilshire Boulevard, circa 1950s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4Wilshire1.jpg
eBay

California Wok, 12004 Wilshire Boulevard, 2014.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4Wilshire2.jpg
GSV

According to propertyshark.com, the restaurant building dates from 1942, and the building next door (below) was constructed in 1953.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...08Wilshire.jpg
GSV

Then I spotted this little building at 12020 Wilshire Boulevard. Now occupied by the School of Rock, propertyshark.com says this one was built in 1936. I don't know what it was originally - historic Streetview images show it boarded up in 2007 with a neon sign left over from when it was the Bruin Flower Shop, and as Pineapple Fitness in 2009.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...20Wilshire.jpg
GSV


Those Who Squirm! Dec 28, 2014 4:54 AM

Is Google SV dying a slow painful death?
 
(Please forgive the digression, but I think this is of interest to everyone here.)

Is it just me or has the quality of Google Street View imagery been taking a huge nosedive lately? I understand that they have started to automatically blur all faces, license plates, and even some signs on businesses, schools, and government buildings, but from what I've seen the results of this blurring process bleeds over, in some cases, into the entire FOV.

Here are some examples I recently screenshotted from DTLA. These were taken from my Android device, on which the problem seems much worse.

Plaza Church, through frosted glass darkly

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7461/...06a4fc_o_d.png

The campanile

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7469/...63c13d_o_d.png

City Hall. You'll notice the top of the tower is even blurrier than the rest of the building; could it be there were one or two tiny figures on the observation deck, so they had to blur it? Whatever, makes the world safe for privacy, I guess.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7489/...d51490_o_d.png

It's still considerably better on my notebook, although there is a noticeably longer lag from the time you click into Street View until the image becomes reasonably clear. Also, that "zoom rectangle" which used to let you get close up to the side of a building, doesn't seem to work anymore. The rectangle is still there, but it no longer does anything if you click on it.

CityBoyDoug Dec 28, 2014 7:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6857575)
(Please forgive the digression, but I think this is of interest to everyone here.)

Is it just me or has the quality of Google Street View imagery been taking a huge nosedive lately? I understand that they have started to automatically blur all faces, license plates, and even some signs on businesses, schools, and government buildings, but from what I've seen the results of this blurring process bleeds over, in some cases, into the entire FOV.

Hi TWS:

Out of curiosity I checked GSV today on my Windows 7. It seems to be OK and clear. I don't seem to be having any of the problems you are experiencing. Maybe you could reload Google Earth...that might help. All of your locations remain because they are on your hard drive in a separate file.

Always some Interweb mystery.

Doug

HossC Dec 28, 2014 1:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6857575)

Is it just me or has the quality of Google Street View imagery been taking a huge nosedive lately? I understand that they have started to automatically blur all faces, license plates, and even some signs on businesses, schools, and government buildings, but from what I've seen the results of this blurring process bleeds over, in some cases, into the entire FOV.

The quality of GSV images definitely varies, but I haven't seen any recent images as bad as the ones you posted, TWS. I do get the feeling that more objects are being blurred, which is annoying when it's signage or street numbers (I have no problem with faces and license plates being blurred).

Some popular locations, e.g. DTLA, seem to get almost monthly updates on GSV at the moment. I often find myself looking at historic GSV images to get a better angle or better lighting. It may simply be that one of the older images was taken from the other side of the street and gives a more panoramic view of the subject. GSV currently offers 12 views of the Plaza Church. For comparison, here are six versions of the campanile. All views were taken from roughly the same spot, and all were zoomed in by one increment. I have not modified any of the images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
GSV

The 2008 image is very blurry, and this is often the case. I usually find the oldest images are useful for confirming old businesses (e.g. the Bruin Flower Shop in one of my recent posts), but are rarely good enough to post. The images from 2009 onwards are significantly better, and for me it's just a case of picking the one that best suits my needs.

I've said this before, but the historic GSV images is the only feature I like about new Google Maps. In my opinion, pretty much everything else is a step backwards. I primarily use Firefox on Windows 7, but I got fed up with swapping over to the new Google Maps for an old GSV image and then back to the old version for usability. Then I hit upon the idea of keeping the old version for Firefox, and starting up Internet Explorer whenever I needed an older GSV image. So far this system has worked very well (if you use Chrome as your primary browser, you could use Firefox or IE as your secondary etc.). Even with the range of available images, I often tweak the levels of images I post, and sometimes perform other alterations to make the subject clearer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6857575)

Plaza Church, through frosted glass darkly

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7461/...06a4fc_o_d.png

I was just about to post my reply when I decided to check out how the view above looked on my computer. It turns out that this is the April 2009 view, which may explain why it's not as clear. There are nine newer versions to choose from, including eight from 2014. Maybe the Android app limits the available views. This is what the view above looks like for me (again, I have not tweaked this image).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

HossC Dec 28, 2014 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6555439)

On the northwest corner [of Wilshire and Western] are the offices of another realtor, Kells & Grant. This shot is from 1927. Notice the real car on display in the box to the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reWestern3.jpg
USC Digital Library

The postcard below seems to date from around the same time, and adds a bit of color to the scene.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eWesternPC.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2014 8:07 PM

I found this by accident while looking through some photographs at LAPL.

The library doesn't have any information other than the name of the store, 'The House of Better Riding' and a date, 1929. (no street address)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/RGMvMF.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=53168

The blade sign says 'Shox S.T. Webb Radio'.



below: A closer look at the storefront.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/irufzn.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=53169

I haven't had any luck in finding the address.

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HossC Dec 28, 2014 9:09 PM

When I saw "Independent Foresters" in the description of this postcard, I initially assumed it was a better view of the building at 246 South Hill Street (see post #24031 and post #24369). The caption on the postcard quickly told me I was wrong, and that it's actually the Independent Order of Foresters at 1329 South Hope Street. I found them at that address in most of the City Directories between 1938 and 1960. The back of the postcard says:

"The Independent Order if Foresters is a Legal Reserve Fraternal Beneficiary Society organized in 1874. It provides its members with legal reserve life insurance, Homes for the aged and orphaned children, and Tuberculosis and Cancer Sanatoria. The building shown is owned and operated by the Southern California jurisdiction."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Foresters1.jpg
eBay

The flag pole, the frame of the roof sign, and even the lamps by the entrance are all still there. The building is now the Baptist Tabernacle of Los Angeles.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

This is a good example of having to go back to one of the historic GSV images when the Googlemobile was on the other side of the street. I also had to distort th image to get flag pole and roof sign in.

Godzilla Dec 28, 2014 9:41 PM

HossC's recent Wilshire and Western post reminded me of the Zoellner Quartet and the Zollner Conservatory of Music. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoellner_Quartet




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0


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In 1931, while engaged in research at California Institute of Technology, he visited the Zoellner family conservatory in Los Angeles and played some of Beethoven and Mozart's works with members of the Zoellner Quartet, recently retired from two decades of acclaimed touring all across the United States; Einstein later presented the family patriarch with an autographed photograph as a memento. http://www.crystalinks.com/einstein.html
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As a friendy reminder, during any performance, please do not chew gum - even if IT is refreshing grape flavored Blatz and everybody is chewing it. (This means you, Clara!)

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As the makers of Blatz Beer were detered by the Volstead Act, they gave us Blatz Chewing Gum.
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Those Who Squirm! Dec 28, 2014 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6857640)
Hi TWS:

Out of curiosity I checked GSV today on my Windows 7. It seems to be OK and clear. I don't seem to be having any of the problems you are experiencing. Maybe you could reload Google Earth...that might help. All of your locations remain because they are on your hard drive in a separate file.

Always some Interweb mystery.

Doug

Yeah, it really seems to be random. I took another look at the Plaza Church and environs, and it was much better this time. Perhaps after redoing the Street View photography when there are fewer people/cars that need to be blurred, Google uses some sort of algorithm to replace the unintentionally blurred content.

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2014 11:46 PM

I recently came across this photograph showing the location of the infamous hammer slaying of 1922.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/4qwXVI.jpg
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I wonder who the woman is..... Clara, the murder suspect, or Peggy, the witness?

info. on reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/jXjeeX.jpg

The following is an excerpt from http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/h...me-tiger-girl/

After purchasing a 15-cent hammer from a local five-and dime, Clara Phillips, a former chorus girl and film extra, spent the afternoon in a Long Beach speakeasy with a friend,
another ex-chorine, Peggy Caffee. Clara told Peggy she had recently heard a rumor that her husband, Armour, was having an affair with an attractive widow, Alberta Meadows.
By the end of the day, Clara had formulated a plan to eliminate her rival.

Fabricating a story of needing a lift, Clara and Peggy caught a ride with the unsuspecting Alberta. On a secluded stretch of Montecito Drive, Clara asked Alberta to pull over for a private conversation; she then brought down the 15-cent hammer on Alberta's head and battered her until the weapon broke. For the coup-de-grace Clara rolled a 50-lb. boulder onto her victim's chest. Peggy witnessed the horrific murder from the car.



below: Here's poor Alberta Meadows (note the boulder beside her)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/Du6Gb5.jpg
[Courtesy of UCLA] http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/#images


...and here's Clara, shortly after her arrest. (I first posted this mug-shot back in Sept. of 2012)
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On Dec. 5, 1922, she escaped from Los Angeles County Jail.
She was eventually found in Honduras....extradited....and sent to San Quentin for 13 years.
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I've often wondered where on Montecito Drive the murder took place.
Despite being in close proximity to downtown L.A., the drive still has it's 'lonely' spots and 'noirish' views.

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ethereal_reality Dec 29, 2014 12:31 AM

Capri Café, 1137 So. Western Ave.

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/MAs6We.png


below: I believe the Capri Cafe cottage still stands. (even though GSV placed 1137 more on the corner)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/IMRtNj.png

There are some differences.
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ethereal_reality Dec 29, 2014 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6857927)
The Independent Order of Foresters.

The flag pole, the frame of the roof sign, and even the lamps by the entrance are all still there. The building is now the Baptist Tabernacle of Los Angeles.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
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What a fun discovery HossC! Good job.
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MartinTurnbull Dec 29, 2014 2:04 AM

Oriental Hotel and Frank's Cafe
 
I think we've seen the Oriental Hotel on this thread before, but only from a distance. Here is a much clearer view - close enough to see Frank's Cafe. I don't have a date on this but the photograph was by by Arnold Hylen.


http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...nold-Hylen.jpg

CityBoyDoug Dec 29, 2014 4:26 AM

Head to Head......
 
Looks like Walgreens is going head to head in 2014 with Rite Aid on 5th Street, Los Angeles. They've taken over most of the street floor of my step-dad's old office building...Chester Williams, built in 1927. His office suite was the top floor at the left side in the photo below. He had offices in this building from 1941 till 1961.


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Below is what it looked like in 2009.
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Eric Richardson

This is a current photo but this is how the entrance to his office appeared.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pscb3d1899.jpg
Chester Williams Building



The new drugstore is certainly a big improvement over what previously occupied the ground floor. It was a conglomeration of several nondescript yet colorful stores, a restaurant and ugly signage using lettered bed sheets..

Those Who Squirm! Dec 29, 2014 8:47 PM

A "screen grid" is a type of tetrode tube. The Atwater Kent Screen Grid Cabinet Radio came out in 1929 so the signage in this picture suggests strongly that it was taken around that time.

ETA: I think the other sign about the "All-Electric Radio" must refer to the earliest set you could plug into the wall. Evidently earlier radios ran on batteries only, and Philco's first big success in the radio business, the Battery Eliminator, came in 1925. This was a few years before the company began making radios themselves. The image in the article sheds some light on another one of those little mysteries you probably never thought about, but now that I mention it...namely, whatever happened to "B" batteries, and what were they used for?

However, I have failed to find this business in any of the L.A. directories from this period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6857897)
I found this by accident while looking through some photographs at LAPL.

The library doesn't have any information other than the name of the store, 'The House of Better Riding' and a date, 1929. (no street address)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/RGMvMF.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=53168

The blade sign says 'Shox S.T. Webb Radio'.



below: A closer look at the storefront.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/irufzn.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=53169

I haven't had any luck in finding the address.

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CityBoyDoug Dec 29, 2014 9:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6858640)
A "screen grid" is a type of tetrode tube. The Atwater Kent Screen Grid Cabinet Radio came out in 1929 so the signage in this picture suggests strongly that it was taken around that time.

However, I have failed to find this business in any of the L.A. directories from this period.

Here is the ''Screen Grid'' radio of 1929 all done up in a lovely wood cabinet. Its probably better than the old superheterodyne.


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Atwaterkendradio.com

Those Who Squirm! Dec 29, 2014 9:48 PM

Hey! We used to have a place like this in L.A., called The Brown Homburg, or something...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6656446)


HossC Dec 30, 2014 3:13 PM

Here's the La Brea Motel at 1830 S La Brea Avenue. The reverse (below) describes it as "A modern motel with luxurious comforts. Apartments with kitchens. Centrally located to the beaches, to Hollywood and downtown." The hand-written portion includes the date 1953.

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The frontage has lost some windows, but, as far as I can tell, the Starlight Inn is the same building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BreaMotel3.jpg
Google Maps

Lorendoc Dec 30, 2014 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6857897)
I found this by accident while looking through some photographs at LAPL.

The library doesn't have any information other than the name of the store, 'The House of Better Riding' and a date, 1929. (no street address)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/RGMvMF.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=53168

The blade sign says 'Shox S.T. Webb Radio'.





I haven't had any luck in finding the address.

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"House of Better Riding"? Sounds like they will teach you how to trot like a pro.

But this was an auto accessory store (hence the spot lights, shock absorbers etc.) at 1740 N. Highland Avenue:

http://i.imgur.com/i3H1fzh.jpg
LAPL-1929 LACD

If you look at the left edge of e_r's post, you can see that there is a cleaning establishment just visible next door. The 1929 CD has a listing for "Napoleon Cleaners and Dyers Inc - 6318 Compton av br 1742 N Highland av" so I think the location is confirmed.

Today there is a six-story apartment/retail complex occupying the SE corner of Yucca and Highland. I like the old structure better.

ConstructDTLA Dec 30, 2014 7:06 PM

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7502/...4cf19671_h.jpgLindbergh Beacon atop City Hall with Grand Park in the foreground by HunterKerhart.com, on Flickr

Earl Boebert Dec 30, 2014 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLAdenizen (Post 6859538)
Lindbergh Beacon atop City Hall with Grand Park in the foreground by HunterKerhart.com

Larry Harnisch (ladailymirror.com) ragged on Hizzoner about this, to good effect. What a gorgeous picture.

Cheers,

Earl

Godzilla Dec 31, 2014 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 6859513)
"House of Better Riding"? Sounds like they will teach you how to trot like a pro.

But this was an auto accessory store (hence the spot lights, shock absorbers etc.) at 1740 N. Highland Avenue:

http://i.imgur.com/i3H1fzh.jpg
LAPL-1929 LACD

If you look at the left edge of e_r's post, you can see that there is a cleaning establishment just visible next door. The 1929 CD has a listing for "Napoleon Cleaners and Dyers Inc - 6318 Compton av br 1742 N Highland av" so I think the location is confirmed.

Today there is a six-story apartment/retail complex occupying the SE corner of Yucca and Highland. I like the old structure better.



Could be hidden in plain sight considering the many images posted concerning Hollywood Hotel and its immediate surroundings.


Highland, north of Hollywood Blvd . . .


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HossC Dec 31, 2014 1:08 PM

:previous:

Well done on find the Webb's auto accessories store, Lorendoc. All the Googling I did was leading me to Reading, PA, like this article from a 1935 edition of Reading Eagle. It mentions the "House of Better Riding", and says it was a nickname of the Davis Auto Equipment Company. Although I found out a little more about the company, nothing linked it to a possible LA location.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...terRiding1.jpg
news.google.com

I'm sure I remember looking for pictures of this section of North Highland before, and they're surprisingly thin on the ground (the one posted above by Godzilla being one of the exceptions). The detail below is the best I could find of the store in question - the "WEBB" sign from e_r's picture is clearly visible where I've arrowed it. I posted HDL's version of the same panorama back in post #22923. The USC version is larger, but not as smooth.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...terRiding2.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Dec 31, 2014 7:42 PM

:previous: Good eye HossC; I would have missed that entirely.
Of course we never would have found it without Lorendoc. Thanks buddy.
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Beautiful photograph of the old Lindbergh Beacon DTLAdenizen.

I've been trying to find this KCET Huell Howser episode on the beacon. http://www.kcet.org/shows/visiting_w...gh-beacon.html
I didn't realize they found it in a city warehouse in the 1990s. I thought it was always on top of city hall; just not turned on.

Did anyone happen to see this episode?

ethereal_reality Dec 31, 2014 8:44 PM

I don't believe we've seen this unique apartment building at 666 S. Bonnie Brae (just off Wilshire Boulevard).


1978
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Anne Laskey at http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4961087



I was pleasantly surprised to see that it still stands! (it reminds me of some of the places on Bunker Hill)

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...but I don't know for how long. (note the sign on the front door below)

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Kansas_sebastian at flickr
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There's also an interesting apartment building next door. (-also empty)

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By the looks of things, I doubt they'll be around much longer. :( :(
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I just found this better view of the next door neighbor in 2013.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/ucHWTQ.png
Kansas_Sebastian at flickr

Does anyone have any information on these unique apartment buildings?

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ethereal_reality Dec 31, 2014 11:06 PM

News item from the Eagle Rock Sentinel, 19 August 1981

Here's a nice looking street clock that we might have missed on NLA.

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Eagle Rock Sentinel


Information, with clock history.

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/W3dBrj.png
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/


...and the good news; the clock has survived.

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Beaudry Dec 31, 2014 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6860562)
I don't believe we've seen this unique apartment building at 666 S. Bonnie Brae (just off Wilshire Boulevard).


1978
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/tWgIm7.jpg
Anne Laskey at http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4961087



I was surprised to see that it still stands! (it reminds me of some of the places on Bunker Hill)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/LfR6Hi.png
GSV



...but I don't know for how long. (note the sign on the front door below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/XaRFLA.png
Kansas_sebastian at flickr
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Does anyone have any information on these unique apartment buildings?

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666 is marvelous and wonderfully intact—it BETTER get landmarked, and soon. It's an important piece of the Bonnie Brae fabric, and one of our few unmolested Mission apartment buildings (they always tend to lose their parapets and towers and so on). It was built in 1910 and designed by Charles C. Rittenhouse, AKA first Mayor of Tropico (Glendale) and who built about thirty-forty structures around LA. Rittenhouse was quite gifted and that he's largely forgotten now needs to be rectified. (And yes, this does have a certain Bunker Hill quality to it in its massing; relatedly, CCR was the architect of an apartment bldg on Flower btw 2nd and 3rd but I haven't nailed it down yet.) Am unfamiliar with Heather's neighbor to the south so will have to do a little digging there at some point soon.

Here, for example, are two archetypal Ritten-houses (though he did public buildings, churches, etc.), in a Times piece from January 1912—

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/...5d0b6d5c_o.png

Obviously, Olympic & Fig, and Flower south of Fifth, don't have these kind of structures any longer...and here's one (long-gone) in a similar Mission vein by Rittenhouse—
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7477/...b9c1bca7_o.png

—not to say there are none extant, here's one over by 666, a block over and half-block down—

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7532/...42332541_b.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/...72e46a17_c.jpg

ethereal_reality Dec 31, 2014 11:24 PM

:previous: Thanks for the additional information Beaudry. -much appreciated.
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The Garage Beautiful. -capacity 1,000 cars!

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ebay

Metropolitan Garage LTD.
417 So. Spring Street
Los Angeles

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General Manager, G.M. Sage
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The old Metropolitan Garage still stands. (remodeled in 1954)

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/LTiFPE.png
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In 2008, before the economy collapsed, there were plans to convert the 13-story building into a Holiday Inn.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/8izR9z.png
http://blogdowntown.com/2008/01/3093...n-with-history

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Beaudry Dec 31, 2014 11:36 PM

So here's an image from my collection that I finally scanned, and it got me to thinking, of the (I'd guess) ten people on the planet who'd recognize the location, all ten of them are likely on this thread. New Year's Quiz Time! Where was this taken?

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7580/...f8697ee2_h.jpg

(And does the graffito at left say what I think it does? My word!)


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