Almost certainly it is. I've seen much the same sort of setup at Cafe 50's, (all of those, probably), where they have a main jukebox in addition to the tabletop devices that accept money and offer a subset of the main jukebox. All the tabletop devices "communicate" with the main system by some sort of pre-computer electromechanical system.

It makes me miss the last days of real jukeboxes, when vinyl was replaced by CDs, and the machines could say a lot about the culture of a given bar or pub. The jukebox at the bar where I used to hang out at in the early 1990s had King Crimson and pretty much anything else that was progressive, alternative, psychedelic, or from the better kinds of classic rock.

Since the advent of internet-based jukeboxes we've lost that kind of individuality.

I know Overland used to be narrow about from Venice up to the bottom of the hill just south of the I-10 (We are talking about that hill, right?); I think this section was widened around 1990 from two lanes to four.

Do you mean that the section that runs up and over the hill also used to be narrow in the same way?

FYI

Four finalists have been chosen for the Pershing Square Redesign Competition.

you can check out the proposals here:
http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/f...eee438e9a.html

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Our Gang
 

From my dear departed Aunt's photo album..[IMG]http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...sx1idlurm.jpeg[/IMG]

I've heard of this. A the son of a friend of my grandmother's moved to LA to work on it. They bought a house in the then-new suburb of Bellflower. My grandmother brought me out to visit the summer Disneyland opened and I visited Disneyland when it was brand-new. Also went to Knott's Berry Farm. I also remember how bad the pollution was; made my eyes and throat burn.

Another plan of that era was to cut a pass in the mountains to let the smog flow into the upper desert. Smog was really bad then and several ideas were floated around.

Humorously enough, this scheme was mentioned in an episode of "The Beverly Hillbillies" where Honest John, the con man, wanted to sell the project to a group of "civic-minded" individuals. He already had subscriptions for the fan system and the gates. "Who gets the shaft?" Jeb Clampett asked.

"Glad you asked..."

:previous: lol. That's a great line.




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/hYcQyw.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/source/the...illbillies.net

Today we have more Julius Shulman photographs of Bunker Hill. These ones are from 1980. There's a note in the description which says 'See job 4694' - I posted a selection from that 1971 photoset in post #31641. This one is "Job 5820: Bunker Hill Redevelopment (Los Angeles, Calif.),1980". Again, I'm just posting a sample of the full set.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

This shot must've been taken from the United California Bank Building (it became First Interstate Tower in 1981, and is now the Aon Center). Next to the Edison Building, the Engstrum's days were numbered. I know it's only black & white, but this image makes me dizzy when I view it fullscreen!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

I assume that this longer shot was taken from the same vantage point.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original

Nearly half the pictures in this set are color. This one shows Grand Park through to the DWP building from City Hall. Sadly, the view is no longer interrupted by the roof of the Hall of Records, which was demolished about seven years previously.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original

I'll finish with this image. There's a shot from Bunker Hill Towers in the 1971 photoset (see the link at the top of this post). The builders were obviously very busy throughout the '70s on the section between 3rd and 4th Streets, because it was nearly empty nine years earlier.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

:previous: Wow! -great pics Hoss.



:previous: That must be the Carnation "ice cream shop/cafe" next door. Would this explain the same street number? (5075).





Now let's take a look inside the Carnation Building, circa 1949.


Here's the lobby.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/g2EcXy.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10



lobby #2

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/Wt2hxT.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10




reception area

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/n4I95S.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10




office

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/hrfh05.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10




company lounge (with fireplace)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/KJKPT5.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10






company dining room

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/kaXMZ5.jpg





private dining room

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/7iGHwb.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10





conference room

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/GkyPTn.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10



conference #2, showing audio/visual

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/KrhrMT.jpg





penthouse? -note the outdoor patio.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/U1QyaH.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/4746/rec/10



a closer look out the window
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/UR33kQ.jpg


I've been trying to find the patio area in exterior photos, but I haven't located it yet.
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I just happened across this view.


In this photograph you can see the Carnation 'stand alone' building that housed the ice cream shop and cafe. (with it's sloping roof)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/3DRyKj.jpg
pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/twitter/

Anyone know what this little 'machine' does? -is it a music selector

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/iaq8Z2.jpg
detail


I am a bit of a jukebox afficianado and this had me baffled for a while. It didn't look like a wallbox from any of the major jukebox makers, at least not any I was familiar with, but it appears to be a Packard Pla Mor. It has a unique design and differs from the more common units by Seeburg, Wurlitzer etc.

From eBay
http://i.imgur.com/9xllSq0.jpg

The movie Quo Vadis [seen at the right] was released December 25, 1951 (USA)...which may date the photo.

Marion Davies' Beach House
 

Here is an earlier, undated view of the beach house. I don't believe it's been posted here before;
I apologize if it has. Anyway, the house looks fairly new. It's lacking those two curved staircases
on the north side:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...j.jpg~original
C. C. Pierce/Islandora/UCLA -- http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...rcephoto%3A213

:previous: I never noticed the twin curved stairs before FW. -Good eye
They're missing in this photograph as well.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/kCBVkt.jpg
beachgal at https://www.pinterest.com/beachgal2/

The two "cupolas" above the dormer windows have been added and the windows beneath have been paneled over (two small oval windows were added in their place)
in this photo.




-here's a close-up of what I am struggling to explain.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/642eFH.jpg
detail

I wonder if Marion was requesting changes? I have to say, it looked better before.





Here's FW's photo a little larger, showing the missing "cupolas".


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/BkT5mr.jpg
C.C. Pierce/ucla

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Marion Davies Beach House changes
 

It looks like she wanted to block off access to those two long decks atop the roof.

:previous: I see what you mean. -for safety reasons.....that hadn't occurred to me.
I wonder if she was afraid of being kidnapped- or was she thinking of her jewels?
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I just happened across this original slide that shows remnants of Bunker Hills. (late 1960s or early 1970s)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/BtBII7.jpg
here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCRTD-LOS-AN...gAAOSwo3pWddNb

Yes.

The hill was narrow, two lanes and about 20' steeper. Exposed retaining walls for existing apartments are visible on the east side of the lower peak.

Getting smog out of the LA Basin
 

Before the 1950s factories were the notorious source for poisonous smokes. By the 1940s refineries were appreciated as a killer threat. Most toxic sources were seen as a local threat. The old solution was very tall smokestacks that would dilute the problem as smoke blew down wind and spread. LA didn't have flow-through ventilation like other parts of the country. The prevailing breeze from the ocean backs up against the San Gabriel Mountains and is prevented from flowing over the top by the air inversion layer. (One of my environmental science professors compared pollution in the basin to a fire in a jug. Big fire or little fire that jug would fill with smoke due to the very small opening.) The brute force old school solution was monstrously tall smoke stacks (as shown in this plan). It would sort of work if you could blow the smoke up to the jet stream. The other suggestion was to use nuclear explosives to blow passes through the mountains (fans optional as the on-shore breezes would naturally flow through these channels). It is amazing that we ever managed to reduce pollution production to levels that allows LA to be habitable.

The elegant and ornate interior of the Davies' beach house, 1934. :previous:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pszvtzeira.jpg
Photoplay

LA's First Public Swimming Pool
 

We've seen the City Hall on Broadway many times, shown below c. 1890:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/2696

But I don't believe we've ever noticed the Los Angeles Natatorium next door:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
Closeup of above

A similar but slightly wider photo, c. 1895:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics17/00018257.jpg

Here's another shot from a few years earlier, showing the same two natatorium signs:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/3468/rec/2

The Los Angeles Natatorium opened September 29, 1888. Capitain and Burton were the architects. Obviously,
there were buildings in town with baths prior to this, but with bathtubs, not anything like what we would call a
swimming pool:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
September 30, 1888 Los Angeles Times @ LAPL

According to the rest of the article, the pool was made of brick and lined with cement. The water was meant to be
heated to 79 degrees by means of "steam pipes running under it" (under the brick?), but the water was reported
not to have been even lukewarm. The shallow end was just two feet deep, and the deep end 12 feet. There was a
railing all around the pool, just above the water.

In addition to the rings over the pool (pictured in the ad below), there were two diving boards plus a chute/slide.
This ad has the tank slightly larger than the article on the pool's opening day:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...y.jpg~original
October 10, 1888 Los Angeles Herald @ LOC -- http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

By early the next year the problem with the water temperature seems to have been fixed:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original
February 24, 1889 Los Angeles Times @ LAPL

The 1894 LA City Directory shows that the Natatorium was operated by the Cook Brothers, so this ad is probably c. 1894:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

GPF.2730 at Seaver Center

Here's the photo a little bigger:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...v.jpg~original


October 7, 1895 Los Angeles Herald:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original
CDNC/UCR -- http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...torium-------1

Eventually, as seen in this c. 1897 photo, a building was built on the lot in front of the Natatorium, but the
Natatorium was still accessed from right next to City Hall. The sign on the left side of the building next to
the City Hall says "Hot Baths" (plus other stuff):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original
2000-0012 @ CA State Library

This c. 1894 photo is the best I could find of the Natatorium building; it's the one with the peaked black roof,
in front of the Woodbury Business College building:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/1751

The 1894 Sanborn Map shows the Natatorium, the building in front of it, and the building behind it on
Spring Street with a saloon and restaurant on the ground floor:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original
LAPL

Near the end of the Natatorium's run, it was operated by Charles Bauer and Julius A. Kelly, who also operated
a bar on Spring Street that was accessed through the Natatorium:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original
March 13, 1897 The Capital @ HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=250

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...h.jpg~original
April 29, 1897 Los Angeles Herald @ LOC -- http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=2

Unfortunately, Bauer and Kelly had financial problems, and they dissolved their partnership:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
May 8, 1897 Los Angeles Herald @ LOC -- http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...08/ed-1/seq-1/

I hope Julius Kelly's mother did not read the Herald:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
May 11, 1897 Los Angeles Herald @ LOC -- http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...11/ed-1/seq-3/

There was another tragedy to come. The first public pool also saw the first accidental drowning in a public pool:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original
July 2, 1898 Los Angeles Times @ LAPL

This ad from October 7, 1898, is the last I could find. The Natatorium seems to have closed not long after
that (an April 13, 1899, Times article stated that the Natatorium had been open "until recently"):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original
LOC -- http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=2

Lawyers got involved (in addition, Kelly's widow sued Bauer and his wife for $1,000):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
January 22, 1899 Los Angeles Times @ LAPL

The 1906 Sanborn Map shows the old Natatorium Building as the Imperial Restaurant. The 1910 Baist Map
shows a new building covering the entire lot.

Could this be the patio area?
http://imageshack.com/a/img908/7461/hv2hiW.jpg

:previous: Yes, I think that could be it! Thanks Graybeard.
I was looking for it at the top near the Carnation sign.


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:previous: Oh my, how did all of us at NLA miss this!? Amazing find Flyingwedge.

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We've seen this view before, but not in color and without the street car.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/HZ60z6.jpg
eBay

color slide at
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pacific-Elec...wAAOSw9N1V1yXl

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Party Time Estate
 

:previous:

This 5-acre pleasure palace was built in the late 1920s by newspaper mogul William Randolph Hearst, for cutie Miss Davies, with whom he was having a long-term affair.
During the 1920s and 1930s the madcap duo would host many of their lavish Hollywood celebrity parties at this 110-room mansion.

Be it known that Mr. Hearst was very much married and with seven children. His wife Millicent, being Catholic, would not grant Mr. Hearst a divorce.
But that didn't stop the aging roué from linking up with his Hollywood gal pal Marion for the rest of his life.

All built with Hearst's millions. Only the Guest House, at the far left survives. Pacific Coast Highway, Santa Monica, CA.
The pool has been rebuilt. Photo: 1930s
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps1vl21edj.jpg
DOHollywood

:previous: Interesting aerial CBD.

I've never noticed that round area (tiled pathway) with what looks like a fountain in the middle. (to the right of the main house)
The aerial also gives you a good look at the bridge spanning the swimming pool.




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/jiPbeg.jpg
eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/orig-1949-2-...QAAOSwZ1lWcKL3



reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/mfqWUk.jpg


:previous: Even with the above coordinates I haven't been able to find the same location via the google-mobile.

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Somehow I missed half a page of posts from a couple days ago.

The above videos are great GW. Thanks for the links.

I can't believe how fast they're driving in that second video. What a ride!

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Looking at Historic Aerials, I'd say the picture was probably taken on what-is-now N Soto Street, roughly level with the top of Lincoln Park. The 1948 image below shows how the PE tracks and the roadway split apart at this location.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The view below was taken with the Googlemobile near Multnomah Street. If I'm right about the location, the hill on the left is the one in the vintage picture, although very little else is recognizable.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

:previous: I think you nailed it. Thanks Hoss.



If wasn't all that long ago we were discussing whether or not the Statler Hilton had a heli-pad.

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=25751

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=27053


I just found this amazing slide from 1962 on eBay.

It was taken from a helicopter as it was coming in for a landing.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/8AuqJ3.jpg
eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-35mm-ph...AAAOSw5ZBWQ4rP

:previous: It looks like the helicopter leaks a lot of oil!

-also note the Washington Hotel down below.



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:previous:

It's the Wellington Hotel and Apartments.

Thanks for the correction. I got my Ws mixed up.

This Julius Shulman photoset is a bit of a mystery. I know where it is - Los Angeles International Airport - but I haven't been able to find any more information about it. This is "Job 3855: A. Charles Draper, Los Angeles International Airport, The Tap Room (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1965". The three color images in the set duplicate the black & white ones, so I've gone with color so you can fully appreciate the brownness :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

This image was originally upside-down (the black & white version is the right way up). What I originally took to be a pattern on the wall turned out to be partially exposed brickwork. The shields I can read on this side bear the names Shelley, Hervey, Fauconer and Fishacre.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Were the stirrups used to help the patrons stand up? These shields say Charles II, Loreyn, Willouby and Erskine. A couple of heraldry and ancestry sites mention the names as part of a much larger set, but what connects this selection to The Tap Room?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

I sure hope somebody identifies The Tap Room, because I'm sure I've been there and it's driving me nuts not to remember where it was. At first I thought it might have been part of one of the airline VIP lounges but the outside appears to be a public hallway, and there's no airline logos on the glasses -- most lounges used the line's first class glassware.

"Of all the bars in all the airports in all the world, you had to post a picture of this one." Or something :-)

Cheers,

Earl

I've been looking for the tap room and have come up with zilch. I even googled "ugly wood paneling". ;)
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Virginia Clauson in Los Angeles Court / Annulment, January 14, 1958.

Dressed to a T and flashing that diamond brooch!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/5LQ6DJ.jpg
usc digital archive




There's one more photograph here, with a clearer view of that brooch.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/50220/rec/10


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...910/ByJZjR.jpg
detail

Murder in 1881 Los Angeles
 

What an interesting and amazing forum! The level of sleuth work done within these walls is admirable and much appreciated. Los Angeles is filled with a number of odd, interesting and quirky happenings.

Noir in the City of Angels is not a new thing, in fact it's historical.

William H. Brewer was a member of the California Geological Survey during the years 1860 to 1864. From the book "Up and Down California in 1860-1864; The Journal of William H. Brewer" A compilation of letters written home to his Brother and family during his 4 years in California.

You can find a transcript here:

https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query...864;+%29%29%29

On Dec 7th 1860, Brewer writes:

"Fifty to sixty murders per year have been common here in Los Angeles, and some think it odd that there has been no violent death during the two weeks that we have been here. Yet with our care there is no considerable danger, for as I write this there are at least six heavy loaded revolvers in the tent, besides bowie knives and other arms, so we anticipate no danger. I have been practicing with my revolver and am becoming expert."

Brewer and his team went on to visit and document California in a way no one had every done. They reached the farthest places and highest peaks, many before anyone else. Brewer was the first to climb Santiago peak in Orange County and saw the region, for over one hundred miles in all directions. He also was the first to document the height of Mt. Shasta.

This sets the stage for our violent locale, where murders continue at an alarming rate to present day.

I would think this counts as 'Historical Noir', if not please continue reading.



The murder of Francisco Forster.

One of the more poignant murders occurred on March 15th, 1881. Francisco 'Chico' Forster, 40 year old son of John Forster and Ysidora Pico of the Los Flores Rancho, now the Camp Pendleton area, was shot dead at Commercial and Los Angeles streets in broad day light. Forster was the son of a well to do rancher. He had stolen the virtue of 18 year old Lastania Abarta under the condition of marriage, but after he had taken his prize his promise of nuptials soon disappeared. She and her sister searched the city and found him at the local race track. When he refused to marry, she shot him once through the eye. Forster's rich father, John Forster husband of Ysidora Pico, hired a lawyer to be sure she was prosecuted. However, She was acquitted under the pretext of a popular belief: female hysteria. Dr. Joseph Kurtz, a local physician of formidable reputation assured her freedom when he stated 'Any virtuous woman when deprived of her virtue would go mad, undoubtedly'. With this the jury acquitted her.


The original article appears in the Los Angeles Herald archive located here:
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH18810429.2.12


Interesting locations related to Forsters murder, for those who have the time and resource to find:

The Forster ranch was the Los Flores Rancho located on what is now Camp Pendleton.
Lastania's virtue was lost at the Moiso Mansion Hotel
The murder occurred at Commercial and Los Angeles Street
I'm not sure where the court was located at the time
The Abarta family owned a pool hall near present Downey (?)
Francisco was located at the horse track at Agricultural Park (Now Exposition Park)
Dr. Joseph Kurtz must have had an office in the area, at least a residence.

A side note: The Los Flores ranch has an old horse track, now crossed by interstate 5 with a WWII airfield in it's middle.
You can see this on Google Earth north of the Las Pulgas exit. I've never seen any documentation on this track. It predates
WWII and was probably constructed in the mid to late 1800's.

Spraying DDT in Santa Monica 1948.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/SfHcP9.jpg
www.latimes.com






http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/rUl0fZ.jpg
old ad / 1947



Model Kay Heffernon is sprayed with DDT in 1948 to demonstrate that it won't contaminate her hot dog and beverage.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/3LvJzR.png
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...e-environment/

I wonder if she's still alive?

Welcome to NLA Diamond-X! Excellent post.


Here's the Geological Survey of California field party of 1864 consisting of William H. Brewer, James T. Gardiner, Richard Cotter and Clarence King.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/6RVY5R.jpg
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/about/history/lipps1.php

Brewer is the one in the chair.
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A face that would stop a clock, so to speak... reminds me of Christine Jorgensen, although I think she was prettier. Anyway, Virginia does look good in one of these pics, from the Times of Jan 15, 1958, Dec 4, 1957, respectively. Would love to know more about the heiress angle and whatever became of her.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520PM.bmp.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...awson4.bmp.jpg

Did I just miss it (I have been hurriedly catching up on the last 20 or so pages), or did no one point out the Vanderbilt Apartments at 334 S. Figueroa, directly below Mr. Wiesendanger? As in, the notorious apartment building that partially collapsed inexplicably in March 1959, taking lives with it. 4/10/57 view from the Palmer Connor collection below:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0fs0devl.jpgHuntington Digital Library

Also, I'm sure one of you guys already pointed out the name (which I don't know), but here's a photo of the apartment building directly to the right of Mr. Wiesendanger's head, once located at 204 N. Fremont:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psbj8hcmm2.jpgfrom my files, possibly lapl

You can also see it here in the background of this 12/20/56 shot of the NE corner of 1st & Fremont, also by Palmer Connor:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps60ib9ukc.jpgHuntington Digital Library

Christmas 1929 - 1949
 

Christmas 1929

City Hall Spring St. entrance decorated for the community Christmas pageant.


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/12-17-29.jpg LAT 12-17-29

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00075141.jpg LAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072076.jpg

(and similar view)

The 1929 Downtown Christmas Parade held Thanksgiving Day had a nursery rhyme theme.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...2011-24-29.jpg LAT 11-24-29


Heading up Olive St.:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...s%20parade.jpg LAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072079.jpg

1949

The Christmas tree in Pershing Square in 1949 was 105-ft. tall (surpassing 1948’s tree, a shrimpy 95-ft) white fir from the Sequoia National Forest.

Heading over the Ridge Route at Mint Canyon:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...20pershing.jpg LAT 11-22-49

The lighting ceremony was on November 28, 1949. The star on top was 10-ft high.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ree%201949.jpg here

Virginia Mayo, as chair of the Marine’s “toys for tots” drive was expected to make an appearance.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...belle/mayo.jpg pintrest

Dear Lord that's good. That's Hill from 4th up to 3rd, of course (and even has Clay St up there in the upper left). It's roughly the same shot as this 'un (ca. 1964) by Mildred Harris over at LAPL:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00110/00110232.jpglapl

The two bluish 4-story with the black roofs are the backsides of 328, and 330-334 Clay. The green roof is 338 Clay. Here is an image of 330/4 & 338 and some info about them, from Dawson's book.


Here's a shot by Nadel at the Getty, note the same buildings along Hill.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5624/...9a325c55_h.jpggetty/nadel "Shopping 1955 November 29"

Note that even in Ms Harris' shot from the early-mid '60s 349, AKA "Barber College" in the Nadel shot, AKA the Univeristy Club (John Parkinson, 1904) is still standing.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1464/...dc0706d0_o.pngusc
—really, who tears down a Parkinson? (Despite having lost its overhanging parapet.)

Here, we can see the wall predates the 1906 Sanborn—
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1694/...22aba0d1_c.jpg

Aaaaand nice to know though this Edwardian-era structure has remained relatively unmolested, as part of the Angel's Knoll park—

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5639/...4ba57e48_b.jpgbing-maps

—which will at some point be redeveloped and we will in theory lose our Bunker retaining wall.


...forgive me if this has all been covered before. But it's one of my favorite "remnants" and I couldn't resist the temptation of going on about it...

:previous: Excellent post. Now I see it all more clearly.
-& that's the first time I've noticed the "stone wall" on a sanborn map before. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Tetsu, here it is after the collapse / cleaning up the debris.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/aE51IA.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/ref/co...0coll2/id/8486

"Spectators watch from the sidewalk as workers collect and clear the rubble from the razed Vanderbilt Apartments, 334 South Figueroa Street."




close-up #1

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/RQ2bZQ.jpg
detail




close-up #2 (car lot next door) -how long to do think the old car in front of the white caddy has been there? -and the camper

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/rGHMoP.jpg
detail
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I'm off to Illinois for the holiday.



Deanna Durbin is the Christmas Tree.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/lbU9eu.jpg
http://www.kitschy-kitschy-coo.com/b...eck-the-dress/


MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!


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Anyone else have last minute Christmas shopping to do? If 7 of us get together, we can hire a Tanner Car limo (meet me at 320 S. Beaudry).

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0u-drive_1.jpg LAT 12-12-47

The USC digital library has a picture of the Tanner garage building on Beaudry from 1927. I can't post, but I am sure someone can find it. It was a great building, with urns on top of the three higher sections and decorations across the front. It is listed as the "Tanner Motor Livery Building" and the picture is excellent.


OOPS. Sorry, I just found that a picture taken directly from the front of the building has been posted before.

As a point of reference:


Happy Holidays to all of you! :cheers:

The Tap Room may have been a chain. I remember a very similar one in the San Francisco airport in the '60s. You see its entrance briefly in the movie "Bullitt," (1968) when Steve McQueen shoots a bad guy in the airport.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0fs0devl.jpg

The Vanderbilt was originally the Roosevelt; here's an image of her from an old tourist booklet—note the Wiesendanger name there above the door. Her architect was A L Haley and she was erected in 1901.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5769/...b5cf0575_o.png

An ignominious end:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5817/...a1b5c488_b.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5646/...90cea8b0_b.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5762/...d8f9b05c_b.jpg usc usc usc

Read all about it here.