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My own mother was born in Rumford ME in 1917. My grandfather moved down there to work in the pulp mill. The family ties are disappearing. The feel of our cities are different (ours are better). The cultural and ethnic differences are increasing with time (more south and east Asians in Canada, more blacks and Hispanics in the States). Our political philosophies and the nature of our social welfare states is becoming entirely dissimilar - we are nordic Europe, they are a world unto their own. Only the business ties really remain to bind Canada and the US together......... |
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There was an attempt at getting the revolution started in Nova Scotia; Jonathan Eddy attacked Fort Cumberland near the present-day NS/NB border with around 400 militiamen. They dispersed when a British ship arrived. Later on in the war a lot of the military activity decamped from New York to Halifax and at that point there was no way that Nova Scotia could have participated. It was probably 25% British soldiers in total at times. I think it is easy to get carried away hand waving about how the character of different groups shaped culture hundreds of years later but I do think it made a difference that Canada was so cosmopolitan early on. In 1800, there would have been more demographic variety in Halifax or Quebec City than Boston. |
I thought the media's been saying Canadian millennials live at home?
https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-r...1003_3-eng.cfm Andy6 is right: people moved between borders more easily in the 19th century. Some of my American ancestors originally were Canadians; some of my Canadian ancestors were originally American. But no one really considered themselves American until recently: just look at census data. You were Italian, German, Polish, Yankee, Southerner first. (The original Canadians were from Quebec; then Upper and Lower Canadian became a thing.) Probably Canada's equivalent to the Spanish Americans are the French Canadians. Imagine more of them lived in the ROC. Texas and Quebec have kind of similar histories of being indigenous first, Spanish/French second then war giving it to the Scots/Irish/German/English; now swinging in favour of the Spanish/French and new immigration. (Texas like Quebec would love to be its own country.) |
Thinking about it more, I do not think you are far off, however, I would say the US is only part of it.
It's clear that Anglo-Canada would not exist as is if it wasn't for the initial wave of Loyalist immigrants. They established the entity of English Canada. However, I would say Anglo-Canada has another parent: Scotland. Anglo-Canada had a disproportionate amount of Scottish influence compared to say the US or Australia, both of which had much more English (from England) influence than Canada. The people traditionally thought of as "Les Anglais" in Quebec were actually largely Scots. Think of some of the prominent anglo Montreal establishment names from the 19th century, and it is clear they were disproportionately Scottish: McGill, McTavish, Drummond, Redpath, etc And the English that were in Quebec were probably more likely of Loyalist background as opposed to immigrants directly from England (although the Molsons are an exception). Interestingly, nowadays, there are probably just as many Quebec francophones of Scottish background as Quebec anglophones. |
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The US and Canada are very different due to demographics and migration trends, the uS is far more germanic, black and latino whereas Canada is far more british isles, french, and asian in it's demographic makeup. Canadian cities showing this where the inner cities in canadian cities are associated with wealth and are desirable whereas in the US this hasn't been the case due to the existence of white flight, something Canada didn't have as we didn't have the demographics that lead to it. |
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I think every Canadian metro of over 200k has at least an IKEA “collection point” or better. |
Yeah but IKEA is trash so that's not a good indicator of wealth.
As for 19th century black history in Upper Canada, I'm currently reading https://www.amazon.ca/Queens-Bush-Se.../dp/1896219853 (Queen's Bush Road is the main highway through Wellesley Ontario.) http://ontarioplaques.com/Plaques/Pl...lington31.html |
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Ontario, Manitoba, BC, NS and increasingly PEI have many folks of German heritage--from Mennonites to post ww2 immigrants. To really understand where Canadians immigrated from, I find it interesting reading the histories of small town Canada. What I'm getting from this thread is a controversial conclusion: French Canadians don't really have a clue who us Anglos really are. |
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https://celticlife.com/canadas-scottish-roots/ 400 year's later the English and French still can't get along: http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/kirke_david_1E.html |
oh I did that ancestry DNA thing and I found out I have a lot of American relatives, mostly 3-6th cousins who at some point came over from England.
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I live in London and day to day I meet far more Latinos than any other group of people, when I lived in Toronto I knew tonnes of Italians and Germans, and when I am in BC it is quite obviously cascadia. |
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But it's not true of the OP (me) and I am pretty much the only francophone who has posted on this thread. Could it be that you're trying to divert attention from an interesting topic that makes you uncomfortable? ;) |
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Who buys IKEA in North America? Mainly people in apartments, condos, or urban areas. I'd wager that it isn't the people in semi-rural areas that so many US suburbs occupy, whether at the high end (McMansions filled with huge Ashley Furniture pieces) or at the low end (old ranch houses filled with discount furniture). |
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You must be great fun at parties. :burstbubble: |
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IKEA is pointless if you live in a 2,000-3,000 square foot home as many Americans do... on the flipside, IKEA is perfect for 600 square foot apartments where you really need to maximize space with compact furniture. As far as I can tell, Americans outside of the dozen or so biggest east coast cities tend have a lot of space unless they're really, really hard up... for example, I recall visiting a neighbourhood in Rocky Mount, NC that looked very down at the heels, but was still filled with 1,500 sf and up 1950s and 60s ranch houses that would go for a million dollars in Toronto. |
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