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Noircitydame Aug 2, 2015 2:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7115673)
And from that same group of 1940s kodachrome slides, here is Marion Davies Santa Monica Beach House.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/blPKSa.jpg
eBay

Can you imagine this is just a beach house.

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I took a tour of the beach house while I was there. The main house is long gone, it’s just one of the guest houses left (itself big as a mansion), also designed by Julia Morgan, including the wonderful bathrooms (I’m with the FBI- federal bathroom inspectors). You can just hang out in the guest house all day if you want to.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1701.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1703.jpg dining room and living room

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1704.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1706.jpg


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1702.jpg
the seawall

The main house got turned in to a hotel after Marion sold it; it didn’t do well and was demolished/ The property was a beach club for a long time. The pool is still there and open to the public in summer for swimming.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...marions30s.jpg
in Marion's day

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/marions.jpg as the hotel, with the mansion still extant. You can see the ex-Gables garage up the highway too.


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...RION1-4-48.jpg
ad for Marion's stuff, 1-4-48 LAT

MichaelRyerson Aug 2, 2015 3:08 AM

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7124/...15164777_o.jpgLooking south on Roosevelt Highway with the Sorrento Beach Club on the left, Santa Monica, 1936

California Incline is visible just ahead of the car, beyond the beach club building, also on the left. 1936

USC Digital Archive/Dick Whittington

tovangar2 Aug 2, 2015 3:24 AM

Carl's Sunspot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7115769)
hmmm....I don't think that's the building t2 (and the hill/cliff behind doesn't seem to match).
But it's good to see the Sunspot Motel. :)

You're right of course. I've gotten confused again. The Sunspot (Burton Alexander Schutt, 1938) was north of Chautauqua, actually in Los Angeles.

Memorable as "Mildred's" in Mildred Pierce (1945):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...81053%2BPM.jpg
overdrive

In 1991 LAT detailed the hopes for the Sunspot

...and in 1994 the inevitable end


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Great posts NCD!

Noircitydame Aug 2, 2015 5:03 AM

:previous: :previous: Thank you Martin Pal for the information about the Marias. I think my grandfather liked being in the navy.

:previous: I like that 1936 photo of the Sorrento, Michael Ryerson

Since we're already at the beach and you all were talking about the Thalberg Building earlier, how about cocktails at Norma & Irving's? 707 Pacific Coast Hwy (or Palisades Beach Rd.)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...rercsl-bar.jpg
the beach house bar. Cal State Lib.

Built in 1927; John Byers was the architect. Irving died here in 1936.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...shearercsl.jpg The highway side courtyard. CSL

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...8LEEM2VS7Q.jpg The ocean side view, then. The Gables/Sorrento garage can be glimpsed on the right. CSL


Now
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1685.jpg my photo

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/Picture1.jpg old file

HossC Aug 2, 2015 10:00 AM

Excellent pictures of the Sorrento Beach Club garage, Noircitydame and Michael Ryerson. It looks like some of the structure survived until at least 1972. Note the absence of the bridge.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...desGarage1.jpg
Detail of image from www.californiacoastline.org

By 1979, there wasn't much of the old garage left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...desGarage2.jpg
Detail of image from www.californiacoastline.org

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2015 2:17 PM

Thanks so much for identifying the mystery 'ruins' as the Sorrento Club parking garage and rooftop pool NoirCity Dame. You're a treasure!

Here are a few more images from 1952 (I couldn't get them to enlarge for some reason).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/jBBUpA.jpg
ucla

The pool was pretty impressive to say the least.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/VSLbTZ.jpg
ucla from 1952
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Now the mystery deepens (literally).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/U8f0Lv.jpg
ucla from 1952

"P.H. Philbin, of Chicago, a former owner of the Sorrento Beach building, had planned a 12-story apartment building on the site 1953. The project included utilizing the massive concrete Sorrento Beach Club structure which had been abandoned in an unfinished state. The project was controversial, as some property owners felt that it would mar the beauty of the Santa Monica Palisades Park." The image is of three children standing in a tunnel, looking toward the archway in the background. This tunnel is likely part of the Sorrento Beach Club."

:previous: I think everyone loves a mystery involving a tunnel! ;)

Do you think it's possible that remnants of this tunnel still exists beneath P.C.H.?

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ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2015 9:57 PM

for a chuckle.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...901/ebwCkB.jpg
Groucho_Marx/Kodachrome at http://hollywood-kodachrome.skyrock.com/

lol :) It's like he's smoking a piñata.

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I loved the Norma Shearer beach house NoirCityDame. I think it looks great in the 'now' photograph.
There's a playhouse and a trampoline in the yard so the current family must have kids (or grandkids).

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2015 10:08 PM

Family portrait, Pasadena Calif. 1910s?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/AkrGOL.jpg
eBay

"Uranium Photo Co.
12 West Dayton St.
Pasadena, - - Calif.
Phone: Colorado 7611"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/Fb9zqN.jpg
photographer's stamp

:previous: Any idea why a photographer would name his business the Uranium Photo Co.?


Here's the complete photograph

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/j4NScK.jpg
eBay

:previous: How tall would you say that grass is?

Earl Boebert Aug 2, 2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7116175)
Family portrait, Pasadena Calif. 1910s

Any idea why a photographer would name his business the Uranium Photo Co.?

Uranium was used instead of silver in photographic paper to give a reddish-brown tint to prints. Interestingly, the article below states that the paper was not made after 1899.

http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Uranium/uranium.html

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2015 10:54 PM

:previous: Very interesting Earl. -so the date of the photograph might be pre-1899.
or perhaps the photographer just didn't change the name of his business (even though he wasn't using uranium paper after 1899)

Earl Boebert Aug 2, 2015 11:10 PM

It definitely has the coloring of a uranium print.

Cheers,

Earl

Martin Pal Aug 2, 2015 11:22 PM

Going...
Going?
Gone.

From a Los Angeles Magazine article I just read:

18 of Your Favorite Classic L.A. Places That Are About to Disappear
by Chris Nichols
July 30, 2015

Folks were surprised recently when their neighborhood Albertson’s became a Haggen market and the local Radio Shack started morphing into a Sprint store, but that’s nothing compared to the epochal transformation happening to Los Angeles – especially for those that love those distinctive unusual joints that make the fabric of the city so special.

Most of the following are not designated landmark buildings and most of them are not as well known as the handful of buildings that get saved each year but they play a big part in the unique culture of Southern California. Major change is upon us in 2015 as new topples old and local favorites disappear. Summer isn’t even over and these classic places are heading for extreme remodels, complete demolition, or have already passed into history. Goodbye special places, hello blandness.

http://www.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo...rmosa_Cafe.jpgL.A. Magazine article

Formosa Café: Interior
7156 Santa Monica Blvd, West Hollywood, CA 90046
This 90-year-old restaurant enjoys city landmark status, which protects the building, but not the ancient booths, lanterns, and funk inside that made this a favorite of film location scouts and fans of old Hollywood noir. A remodeling in July stripped the interior and replaced it with less.


A commenter (Scott Frank) says:

The Formosa renovation is absolutely horrible - it's like they removed all traces of personality and made it as bland as possible. It's doesn't even look like a McBar, it looks like whoever renovated it couldn't be bothered to do any decorating at all, it's almost blank inside. The situation is weird, since the personalityof the interior was really the only reason you went. Now...no reason to go at all.

Article link: HERE.

If anyone wants to research any of the others on the list, here they are:

El Dorado Lanes
8731 Lincoln Blvd, Westchester, CA 90045

House of Blues
8430 Sunset Blvd, West Hollywood, CA 90069

French Market Place
7985 Santa Monica Blvd, West Hollywood, CA 90046

Jan’s Coffee Shop
8424 Beverly Blvd, West Hollywood, CA 90048

Figueroa Tower Sky Lobby
660 S. Figueroa St Los Angeles, CA 90017

La Palma Chicken Pie Shop
928 N Euclid St, Anaheim, CA 92801

Belvedere Fireman’s Recreation Club
Record Ave., East Los Angeles

Arby’s neon sign
6833 Van Nuys Blvd, Van Nuys, CA 91405

Beckham Grill
77 W Walnut St, Pasadena, CA 91103

Billy’s Deli
216 N Orange St Glendale, CA 91203

Jewel’s Catch One
4067 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90019

Frederick’s of Hollywood
6751 Hollywood Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90028

Aidikoff Screening Room
150 S Rodeo Dr #140, Beverly Hills, CA 90212

Phil’s Diner neon sign
5230 Lakershim Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 91601

Figueroa Hotel
939 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, CA 90015

San Pedro Waterfront Red Car
600 Sampson Way, San Pedro, CA 90731

Family Fair
810 Meridian Ave, South Pasadena, CA 91030

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2015 11:31 PM

I have an additional photograph to add to the four I posted yesterday. (it has the same date as the others, 10-4-'22)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/PgAvq7.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1922...item5b15bc1aba

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/sJ8UAl.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1922...item5b15bc1aba


The previous four photographs are here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=30099

Martin Pal Aug 2, 2015 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7115812)
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/marions.jpg as the hotel, with the mansion still extant. You can see the ex-Gables garage up the highway too.

Is it a building or do I spy a gasometer along the horizon?

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2015 11:49 PM

:previous: Yep, it's a gasometer M_P. It was located in Venice CA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/rym93w.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19231


A very helpful grid by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/bUEdNn.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19231

ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2015 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7115826)
The Sunspot (Burton Alexander Schutt, 1938) was north of Chautauqua, actually in Los Angeles.

Memorable as "Mildred's" in Mildred Pierce (1945):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...81053%2BPM.jpg
overdrive

tovanger2, here it is as Carl's "Sea Air" Lodge & Restaurant.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/ekhbUR.jpg
I just found this at...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Santa-Monica...item4881bff7fa


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/q2Kb4u.jpg

tovangar2 Aug 3, 2015 1:40 AM

:previous:

Thank you e_r. Here is Carl's sea Air Lodge and Restaurant / Sunspot and environs in 1958:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...62555%2BPM.jpg
pinterest

Today (I think, but I may still be lost):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...63446%2BPM.jpg



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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7116222)
http://www.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo...rmosa_Cafe.jpgL.A. Magazine article

Formosa Café: Interior
7156 Santa Monica Blvd, West Hollywood, CA 90046
This 90-year-old restaurant enjoys city landmark status, which protects the building, but not the ancient booths, lanterns, and funk inside that made this a favorite of film location scouts and fans of old Hollywood noir. A remodeling in July stripped the interior and replaced it with less.

A commenter (Scott Frank) says:

The Formosa renovation is absolutely horrible - it's like they removed all traces of personality and made it as bland as possible. It's doesn't even look like a McBar, it looks like whoever renovated it couldn't be bothered to do any decorating at all, it's almost blank inside. The situation is weird, since the personalityof the interior was really the only reason you went. Now...no reason to go at all.

In case anyone missed the changes at the Formosa Cafe:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...70617%2BPM.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...70451%2BPM.jpg
@alisonmartino

(Apologies, the pix got a bit fuzzy when enlarged)


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Thank you MR for the photo of PCH. You always find the most evocative, romantic pix.

CityBoyDoug Aug 3, 2015 2:44 AM

American country music singer Gene Autry (1907 - 1998), of the CBS radio program 'Melody Ranch,' selects a record to play on a Wurlitzer jukebox, Los Angeles, California, May 17, 1940. Known as 'The Singing Cowboy,' Autry gained fame working in radio, movies and television and is best known for his signature song 'Back in the Saddle Again.

No bar in the Noir Age would be without one of these wonders.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pstbosy16q.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psjp3qvbz7.jpg
Getty Img.,,,radio museum

citywatch Aug 3, 2015 3:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadwy_central_bldg (Post 7114623)
I'll be happy to post more photos or whatever people are interested in.

broadwy_central_bldg, if you haven't visited the city compilations section of ssp.com, & yet to see the following thread that focuses on dtla & the changes now underway there.....

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207723

I hope you'll add that section when you drop by & certainly post to ssp.com. I hope you also don't mind that I've re-posted in that thread your post from this thread that describes your being a resident of dtla.

mjknight71 Aug 3, 2015 1:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalPaul (Post 5566268)
Hi everyone! I have been lurking & enjoying all the great pics for a few weeks now.

I have a couple of photos that I hope you can help me with. My grandfather owned a couple of flower shops, probably in the late 40's to early 50's. I don't know the streets they were on, but I have a few clues.



This one may be a little easier. Address looks like 10680. (WooHoo! I found an online LA phone directory from 1938 that lists the Nose Gay Flower Shop at 10660 W. Pico Blvd. Ardner g-4131)
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/...ry/Image76.jpg

Hi all,

I have been searching for pictures of the corner of West Pico Blvd and Overlands from the 1950s. The site is currently occupied by the CitiBank that from what i can find was build in the early 1960s (1961-3).

I have search the LA library and emailed anyone who comes up on the internet who might have a clue where to look but with limited success.

Then randomly I found the above post with a 1930s picture slightly further up the street.

One of the plots now taken by CitiBank in the 1951 phone book was a liquor store. The same address in a 1956 phone book is a florist (different to the one above), there only appears to be one business running at that area . The florist is still there in 1960.

Does anyone have any picture of the florist/liquor store from the 1950s or know where I could look for some?:shrug:

I am in the UK so physical searches of documents are impossible:help:

tovangar2 Aug 3, 2015 3:33 PM

10660 W Pico / The Nosegay
 
:previous:

Still looking for pix, but here's the 1938 Building Permit:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...83757%2BAM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...81433%2BAM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--...81446%2BAM.jpg
ladbs

The Building Permit for what-was-originally the California Federal building was approved in 1963

oldstuff Aug 3, 2015 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7108353)
Maybe the studio single is now the laundry room or used for storage.

The assessor's office has a secondary date of 1968 on the property. The little addition, while having the curved corners, does not have as much deco detail and could possibly be the 1968 add on. I think a laundry room, or someone's (possibly the owner of the property's workshop) are the best bet, although it might have been converted to the single later.

oldstuff Aug 3, 2015 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106970)
I recently came across these two snapshots on eBay. (the seller is asking $150.00)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/6rRYFW.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LASKY-RANCH-...item35eb6b6a86



I've enlarged them for you.

3-19-1925
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/DlqXq4.jpg
eBay




3-19-1925
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/4gJlHR.jpg
eBay

I wonder who the visitors were? Dignitaries?
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Site of Lasky Ranch.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/GP5iUH.jpg
https://silentlocations.files.wordpr...dy_page_11.jpg

:previous: "The former Lasky Ranch, bordering Griffith Park near Burbank, and future site of Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills Memorial Park.
Once part of the Spanish-era Rancho Providencia, the Lasky Ranch was used for more than three decades as a filming location."



Just for Fun. Famous Players Lasky (1916). Star Power!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/HivJio.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous...yers_Lasky.jpg

# # # # #

As I was finishing my post, I came across information about a second Lasky Ranch. This one was called 'Lasky Mesa' ranch.

details here:
http://www.moviesites.org/laskymesa.htm
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My dad, born in Burbank in 1913, learned to swim with his older brothers in the river (before the concrete, obviously) in just about that same spot.

The original David Burbank adobe was located on the Warner's lot. (maybe parts of it are still there somewhere

oldstuff Aug 3, 2015 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7111061)
:previous: Intriguing find t2, but I'm confused.
The ad clearly says it was located in Los Angeles. So what's with the Pomona address?

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Here's 215 E. Center Street Pomona today. (was this Mr. Kennedy's address?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/y0TtE0.jpg
gsv


ffice.

Excellent photographs of the St. George NoirCityDame. Thanks for sharing them with us! :)

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Paul E. Kennedy lived at 465 N. Alvarado Court in Pomona (now W. Alvarado Street) in 1920 and at 1526 N. Park Avenue, also Pomona in 1930, so those listings were not his address. His Alvarado home is still there. The Park Avenue property is now home to a convalescent home. He did work for Edison, initially collecting and then later he is noted as an Edison Agent. Maybe the Center Street address was an Edison office.

Paul E. Kennedy was also the secretary of the California Breeders of Rare and Fancy Fowl. They were breeding chickens and other birds which were, at the time, rare.

oldstuff Aug 3, 2015 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadwy_central_bldg (Post 7114623)
I would be happy to!



That building now houses the Walgreen's where I go to buy milk :) They did a nice job of restoring the facade. Very cool that you have memories of it before it became lofts!

http://i0.wp.com/brighamyen.com/wp-c...size=495%2C330
http://brighamyen.com/2014/02/03/wil...y-downtown-la/

I personally love living on this stretch of Broadway. It's a little rough in parts, especially at night (we are just a couple of blocks from Skid Row). But it feels like the absolute center of downtown. Within just one block of my apartment are: Pershing Square, Grand Central Market, the Bradbury Building, the Broadway-Spring Arcade Building, the Continental Building, the Title Guarantee Building (1930), the OLD Title Guarantee Building (1912), Hotel Clark, J.J. Newberry's (now Fallas Parades)...too many more to list! And that's literally just within one block.

Living down here at the moment feels a little bit like...Soho NYC in the 80s? Still a lot of run-down storefronts, dark old theater marquees, and homelessness. But it seems like every week there's a new shop, cafe, or renovated theater opening (just last night we walked past the re-opening of the Globe Theatre a few blocks away). The other residents here are a mix of students, young professionals, artistic types, musicians and so on. I think we all tend to feel a little like "urban explorers" or maybe a little like the frontiersmen who were drawn to Los Angeles at the turn of the last century. You can just tell that downtown is in period of tremendous growth, and it's exciting to be part of that.

Due to the renaissance of the past few years, this part of downtown offers some tremendous conveniences. We have easy access to nearly all the Metro train lines. From Union Station, and to all points beyond... I do have a car, but I try as much as possible not to drive it. For those visiting downtown, you might be surprised to know that (depending on the time of day) street parking is actually relatively easy to find.

We do daily produce shopping at Grand Central Market, which I understand has been a fixture of this neighborhood for nearly 100 years. Chinatown and Little Tokyo are also short walks away, always nice for lunch or dinner. Our other favorite haunt is Cole's P.E. Buffet in the old Pacific Electric Terminal. It's been gussied up, but it still has a Victorian charm that is very "Old Los Angeles." Of course, the Plaza, Olvera Street, Union Station... more lovely spots to take a walk. I also love trekking up Bunker Hill, mostly because, outside of normal 9-5 work hours, it's a total ghost town-- a surprisingly tranquil place to escape the bustle of the city and take in some spectacular views too.

Living here, almost everything we need is within walking distance, or at least a short subway trip away. It's almost like actually living in a proper big city ;)

I'll be happy to post more photos or whatever people are interested in. I'll leave you with a great shot of Grand Central Market, a place I visit almost daily. Does anyone know in which part of the market this stall/counter was? It looks like Belcampo Meat Co. to me, but I have no idea.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3796/...4ae0e040_b.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/43203

The counter was probably in the area of the east wall. They have re-numbered some and there are no more "G" stalls, only "F" stalls. They Fs are along the east wall. It would probably have been more to the Broadway side, given the current layout, but there is no good map from that period, only the new one.

ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2015 8:16 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...913/aSi2oJ.jpg
eBay

"When the yacht 'Sultana' first steamed away from the shipyards, it had cost $1,000,000. That was in 1921. Two years ago John P. Mills, realty operator, above,
bought it for $50,000. Yesterday United States Marshall Al Sittel sold it at auction for $6,025 to satisfy a judgment. The new owner, Fred L. Roberts, Santa Monica merchant, may use it to haul groceries from San Pedro."
1/26/33

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/Egef7G.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2015 8:20 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/TWGCEM.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/YbMQdf.jpg
eBay

527 N. Hoover Street, today. Still a garage!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/N7jyH8.jpg
gsv






Across the street is this unusual building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/10kCAp.jpg
gsv


And across from that, is this art deco apartment building on the corner of Bellevue Ave. and Imogen Ave.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/qESmAO.jpg
gsv


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/NhGDQ6.jpg
detail


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/hhT3Rh.jpg
detail

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ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2015 9:07 PM

I came across this yesterday afternoon on eBay.

"1939 Slot Machines Marble Games Confiscated Destroyed Police Photo Los Angeles CA"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/tBN3zR.jpg
eBay

:previous: Does anyone have an idea where this photograph might have been taken? The biggest clue is the bridge (viaduct) in the upper right corner.

Think what those machines would be worth today. hint: A fortune!

HossC Aug 3, 2015 9:47 PM

:previous:

Somewhere near Macy Street (now Cesar E Chavez Avenue) and Vignes Street?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...avezBridge.jpg
GSV

CityBoyDoug Aug 3, 2015 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7116976)
I came across this yesterday afternoon on eBay.

"1939 Slot Machines Marble Games Confiscated Destroyed Police Photo Los Angeles CA"


Think what those machines would be worth today. hint: A fortune!

You can buy those old slot machines, restored, for around $2,500 to $3,500 each. They make a nice conversation piece for your den.

ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2015 11:26 PM

originally posted by Martin Pal
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/DnZEqJ.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 7112669)

:previous: Martin Pal, the locomotive float in your 1940 photo above depicts one of the early Southern Pacific "Golden State" GS-2/GS-3 passenger engines used on the newly streamlined Coast Daylight. These are distinguished by a single headlight in the nose. Later classes had two headlights in the nose.

Cheers,
Jack

Here's a two headlight example Wig-Wag.

Los Angeles, 1984
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/plvnb5.jpg
eBay
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ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2015 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7117010)

Somewhere near Macy Street (now Cesar E Chavez Avenue) and Vignes Street?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...avezBridge.jpg
GSV

:previous: You could be right Hoss.

Was there an empty lot suitable for destroying hundreds of gambling machines nearby in 1939?

MichaelRyerson Aug 4, 2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7116976)
I came across this yesterday afternoon on eBay.

"1939 Slot Machines Marble Games Confiscated Destroyed Police Photo Los Angeles CA"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/tBN3zR.jpg
eBay

:previous: Does anyone have an idea where this photograph might have been taken? The biggest clue is the bridge (viaduct) in the upper right corner.

Think what those machines would be worth today. hint: A fortune!

Hoss is right (no surprise there) that's the Clara Street School over there on the right. Fifteen years earlier this was bubonic plague central. In those days Vignes didn't come up here, only Avila and Lyons crossed Macy. And Clara sat over there at that odd angle. As Hoss has shown us, the school building is still there. Repurposed perhaps but in great shape. A little piece of our history.

Mstimc Aug 4, 2015 2:41 AM

I'm not sure which is more impressive. The pampas grass or dad's comb-over.;)


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7116175)
Family portrait, Pasadena Calif. 1910s?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/AkrGOL.jpg
eBay

"Uranium Photo Co.
12 West Dayton St.
Pasadena, - - Calif.
Phone: Colorado 7611"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/Fb9zqN.jpg
photographer's stamp

:previous: Any idea why a photographer would name his business the Uranium Photo Co.?


Here's the complete photograph

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/j4NScK.jpg
eBay

:previous: How tall would you say that grass is?


ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2015 2:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 7117265)
I'm not sure which is more impressive. The pampas grass or dad's comb-over.;)

ha ha
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Hollywood Girl sent me this photograph last week.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/gZRvkI.jpg
courtesy of Hollywood Girl

"Furniture, Uundertaking", does this mean they simply made wood coffins -or did they do the embalming as well?

The name in the window is a bit hard to read, but I think it says Ryan & Co.
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ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2015 2:58 AM

Children with decorated pedal car, Los Angeles 1910s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/CGO7cQ.jpg
eBay

CityBoyDoug Aug 4, 2015 3:06 AM

A little Pampas Grass history.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7116175)
Family portrait, Pasadena Calif. 1910s?



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/j4NScK.jpg
eBay

:previous: How tall would you say that grass is?

Pampas grass is native to Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay, where it grows in damp soils along river margins (Connor and Charlesworth 1989).

Samples were introduced to California about 1848 by Joseph Sexton, a nurseryman from Santa Barbara.

ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2015 3:09 AM

:previous: Thanks CBD.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/QgVt9i.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/1920s-Vintage-.../dp/B00NFWW0Q2





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/PMwYGL.jpg
http://www.image-archeology.com/east...os_angeles.htm






http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/k59xAK.jpg
http://www.image-archeology.com/east...os_angeles.htm

ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2015 3:19 AM

Oh, and there's this.

Covered in Pampas Grass, Pasadena 1903.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/BHaZm3.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...(CHS-1453).jpg

Even his beard is Pampas grass. ;)

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Wig-Wag Aug 4, 2015 3:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7117091)
:previous: You could be right Hoss.

Was there an empty lot suitable for destroying hundreds of gambling machines nearby in 1939?

I would speculate that in 1939 there was plenty of room at the corner of Macy/Cesar Chavez and North Vignes Streets as evidenced by the black & white aerial view on the Inhabitat site: I would also hazard a guess that this was a waste dump site during construction. See the area directly above the dark mass at the right center of the photo.

http://inhabitat.com/los-angeles-unv...ion-station-4/

Cheers,
Jack

Otis Criblecoblis Aug 4, 2015 7:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7117281)
ha ha
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Hollywood Girl sent me this photograph last week.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/gZRvkI.jpg
courtesy of Hollywood Girl

"Furniture, Undertaking", does this mean they simply made wood coffins -or did they do the embalming as well?

The name in the window is a bit hard to read, but I think it says Ryan & Co.
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On the side of the building, it says "Furniture and Carpets" on the far side of the sign, and "Undertaking and Embalming" on the near side. I can see the connection between furniture and undertaking, but it seems like an odd combination of goods and services nonetheless. I would have found it rather disconcerting to shop for a chifferobe or étagère while someone's recently-departed loved one was possibly being embalmed in the back room.

MichaelRyerson Aug 4, 2015 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7116976)
I came across this yesterday afternoon on eBay.

"1939 Slot Machines Marble Games Confiscated Destroyed Police Photo Los Angeles CA"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/tBN3zR.jpg
eBay

:previous: Does anyone have an idea where this photograph might have been taken? The biggest clue is the bridge (viaduct) in the upper right corner.

Think what those machines would be worth today. hint: A fortune!

The 'large, empty lot' is right there to the right in Hoss' photo. The houses between Macy Street and Clara Street were torn down in 1925. Think Bubonic Plague. Pics of the area being leveled have been posted on NLA. Look at the left edge of the school building and the viaduct tunnel. Their alignment indicates we're on the north side of Macy which runs down the left edge of the pic behind that fence. (Also notice no Vignes Street up here in 1921)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3805/...4e5f0172_o.pngLos Angeles Baist, 1921, sheet 5

HossC Aug 4, 2015 1:10 PM

:previous:

I found this aerial view of Macy Street and Clara Street from 1938.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...l.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

MichaelRyerson Aug 4, 2015 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7117535)
:previous:

I found this aerial view of Macy Street and Clara Street from 1938.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...l.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Great shot for our purposes. Houses gone ='large, empty lot'. And a good, if inadvertent, view of Wilson Packing (upper rightish) and the L.A. Pressed Brick Co. (upper left corner).

oldstuff Aug 4, 2015 2:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 7117476)
On the side of the building, it says "Furniture and Carpets" on the far side of the sign, and "Undertaking and Embalming" on the near side. I can see the connection between furniture and undertaking, but it seems like an odd combination of goods and services nonetheless. I would have found it rather disconcerting to shop for a chifferobe or étagère while someone's recently-departed loved one was possibly being embalmed in the back room.

If you look at the front door area of the building, it appears that there are actually two doors, side by side. Maybe one was the undertakers and the other was the furniture store. Perhaps both run by either the same person or two family members.

An interesting note: the "Olathe Mirror" a paper from Olathe, Kansas dated April 10, 1919 has an ad for Ryan and Company, Furniture and Undertaking with the text reading "In our furniture department you will always find a nice assortment of furniture and rugs at the lowest possible price with good values"

There is no date on the picture we have so maybe the Ryans moved west in the next few years. 1919 was early for "chain stores"


UPDATE: Albert Ryan, born in Ohio in 1862, appears in the 1900 Census in Olathe, Kansas as an undertaker. He does not, however, show up in any directories or censuses in Los Angeles

Noircitydame Aug 4, 2015 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7117085)
originally posted by Martin Pal
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/DnZEqJ.jpg


Here's a two headlight example Wig-Wag.

Los Angeles, 1984
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/plvnb5.jpg
eBay
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What a beauty.
I found another view of the float
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00101821.jpg lapl

In 1937 you could go see the new Daylight at Expo Park before the 1st day of service. That must've been fun:


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lle/3-9-37.jpg LAT 3-9-37

On March 21, 1937 at exactly 8:15 SP had dual christianing ceremonies before the northbound and southbound trains set off from LA and SF. In LA, Olivia de Havilland did the honors:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/002.jpg
from the book "4449 The Queen of Steam"

This would be the old SP Central depot.

Here it is leaving Central:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...elle/003_1.jpg Queen of Steam

The crew proudly posing at Central 3-21-37
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/004.jpg

11-15-37 ad for the train. I'm sure it was a thrill.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/11-15-37.jpg LAT

A Daylight near Lockheed
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00085753.jpg LAPL

I got to pet the tame 4449 when it came to California for Railfair in 1999
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/005.jpg
Suitcase full of 1940s True Story and Daring Detective magazines. (I'm not kidding). According to the Queen of Steam book, the single-bulb Mars light was replaced by the double-bulb type in the 1950s.

4449 is I think the only surviving engine that's still painted in Daylight colors (most of the time). The other surviver I'm aware of is a single-light "war baby" in the St. Louis Museum of Transportation and doesn't do excusions like 4449.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...belle/4460.jpg
http://http://www.railarchive.net/ra...ges/sp4460.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2015 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7117517)
The 'large, empty lot' is right there to the right in Hoss' photo. The houses between Macy Street and Clara Street were torn down in 1925. Think Bubonic Plague. Pics of the area being leveled have been posted on NLA. Look at the left edge of the school building and the viaduct tunnel. Their alignment indicates we're on the north side of Macy which runs down the left edge of the pic behind that fence. (Also notice no Vignes Street up here in 1921)

Sure enough, just as MichealRyerson said,Clara Street was the epicenter of the plague back in the 1920s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/OHZZFR.jpg
this is from the early days of the thread.

"Grocery near Clara St. where first plague-infested rat was found."
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Back to the gambling machines. What do you think they did with the machines after they busted them up?

My guess is that they buried them on the spot. Anyone have a metal detector?................... and a jackhammer.;)

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ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2015 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7117602)

I got to pet the tame 4449 when it came to California for Railfair in 1999

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/005.jpg

Suitcase full of 1940s True Story and Daring Detective magazines. (I'm not kidding)

:previous: Wow! That's you NCD?

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/990/59nltL.gif
courtesy of Tex Avery

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John Maddox Roberts Aug 4, 2015 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7117657)
:previous: Wow! That's you NCD?

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/990/59nltL.gif
courtesy of Tex Avery

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I'm in love.

tovangar2 Aug 4, 2015 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7117535)
I found this aerial view of Macy Street and Clara Street from 1938.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...l.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

The 1924 plague's first deaths were at 742 and 741 Clara Street.

I've read that at least one of these homes escaped the orgy of urban renewal excused by the outbreak and lasted (by then owned by the city) until the 1950s.

Can anyone identify the house(s) in the aerial?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7117517)



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