:previous::previous::previous: Great find tovanger2!! Thanks for all your hard work with the Leo Katz Mural.

I can tell you what he wasn't thinking. He wasn't thinking that the Spanish and later American settlers were anything admirable or heroic.

Yes, thank you...

I certainly agree John.

Also, to add to your comment, muralist-teacher Katz basically painted on the wall a huge overpowering nearly naked blond boy. That ''eye candy'' was very sly of him in my opinion.

The surrounding details are a mere noisy frame for his erotic Nordic God-youth.....his idol, so to speak. His depiction of women, natives and others are clearly negative, almost in the extreme.
All of that was to make his ''mural'' somehow look ''historically relevant'' which in reality was a mass of confusion.

The upshot of this venture was that the common people of that 1935 era immediately rejected his efforts and had the mural banished within less than a year.
I'm not saying that Mr. Katz was a reprobate person...he was oddly brave and ahead of his time. I'm only saying that he bit off way more than he could chew or that the public would tolerate in 1935 at that location.

This is where artist Katz lovingly lavished most of his attention. Not that there's anything intrinsically wrong...its just obvious. [detail from ''Youth Arisen'' mural by Katz.]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pso65noemr.jpg

All of this is what makes LA Noir...and a lovely hypocritical city of eternal intrigue and contrasts.

I found this in an old file of mine.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/JxGFD7.jpg

I thought perhaps Wig_Wag or Henry_Huntington could shed some light on what's going on with the streetcars in the center of the photograph.
there appears to be a smaller square car (with two port-hole windows) and what looks like a white fire-engine type vehicle.

Also, is that truck (emerging from the shadowed side-street) for transporting plate glass windows?

1940s Kodachrome slide of the pool area at the Miramar Hotel in Santa Monica.

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1950s brochure.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/8hDpOB.jpg
http://collectibles.bidstart.com/Mir...6604190/a.html






below: I really like the aerial view.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/eFdgnW.jpg
http://collectibles.bidstart.com/Mir...6604190/a.html







1940s postcard view showing some of the bungalows.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/pc5nsW.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Damaged-1940...item56780c0976

This image reminds me of the Chapman Park Hotel and Bungalows.






The pool area in the 1950s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/cTSDmD.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Santa-...item2803532002






I could be mistaken, but I don't believe this entry/walkway exists any longer.

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:previous:
...home in Santa Monica, at the beach house built for Norma Talmadge 1928-29.
Here's an image of the room as it looked in Norma's time there, from the April 1996 Architectural Digest:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...al%20house.jpg

Obviously some redecorating has taken place but I notice the coffee table is the same one. Imagine an interior designer sweeping in with: "My dear, this 1920s dreck has simply GOT to go, except for-- that!"

The famous postcard view of the house and Cary's very green car:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../carybeach.jpg

I walked past it last November, looking pretty well cared for and fairly unaltered, and spotted this little call box at the street entrance. No longer used (that's what the note says) but originally if you dropped in on Norma/Cary/Randy, you'd pick up an intercom telephone inside the box and let the butler know.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1692.jpg

1940's kodachrome slide showing a swimming pool beneath the Colorado Street Bridge in Pasadena.

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eBay

I believe this the swimming pool at the Hotel Vista Del Arroyo.
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Under high magnification (with correspondingly low resolution), here's what I see, ER:

- The streetcar nearest to us is waiting for a couple of pedestrians (man and boy?) standing in the track. The man appears to be looking at the rear end of the streetcar ahead. I've no idea why they're in that spot or why he's looking in that direction.

- The vehicle immediately behind the streetcar is a truck whose porthole windows flank the (blind) rear doors.

- Bringing up the rear is another truck with an open bed, and the white material that seems to resemble firehose might be padding for whatever dark object they're carrying in the center of the bed. Also, there's stylized lettering on the side, so it looks like this is a commercial vehicle.

- The truck emerging from the alley appears to be empty, or at least I couldn't pick up any reflection from a glass load. Those high stakes on the sides certainly are curious, though.

Lovely color image!
Since the Hwd USO was discussed recently in connection with another of these great color shots, I’ll note that the Miramar served as the Santa Monica USO HQ, opening in April 1942 with a pool party (also ping pong and billiards)

On January 18, 1944 the hotel was taken over by the Army Air Forces for use as AAF’s Distribution Center No. 3, where veterans returning from overseas combat could stay and enjoy R&R. The Shangri-La (1301 Ocean) and the Ocean Palms (1215 Ocean) were taken over at the same time; down on the beach, the AAF had already been using The Grand Hotel and the Edgewater and Casa Del Mar beach clubs since November. The Miramar re-opened to the public around Thanksgiving time 1945.

A sailor and a soldier and a bathing beauty at the Miramar pool, 11-9-1946.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...amarpool46.jpg
SM Digital Image Archives

Same door probably...
 

The cross on the door is still there !

Thanks for your help Henry_H. I appreciate it.
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Here are a couple enigmatic photographs from 1920s Los Angeles.

description from eBay.
"Vintage SAPS (letters on sign?) Los Angeles Aeroplane Junk-Yard Photo"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/h9MFud.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SAPS...item28030d04d7

:previous: Is that Baldwin Hills in the distance?


And later in the day, I came across this second photograph.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-LOS-...item28032eb4ba

Does anyone have any ideas where this might be?

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...and a few miles west of Chatsworth.

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http://matterhorn1959.blogspot.com/2...lle-movie.html

Did any of you visit this place back in the day? It looks fun. :)

I wonder if you can still hike out to the caves? (number 19 on the map)

Also, I thought the western town was called 'Silvertown', but it isn't listed as such on the map.
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I just found this photograph at Silvertown from 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/Vp1Phl.jpg
http://movielocationsplus.com/corrigan/enter1.htm




And here's an aerial from the 1950s as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/zE6dg5.jpg
http://matterhorn1959.blogspot.com/2...lle-movie.html

:previous: "This aerial of Corriganville shows the 'Silvertown' working movie set, lower left center. 'Fort apache' is directly north
of Silvertown, center left. 'Lake Robin Hood' is at the far right upper portion."

hmmm....I don't see the lake.

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A not very flattering photograph of silent film star Clara Bow with her son Toni.

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eBay

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Palm Springs-1935.

I would guess so too. Never realized how far the grounds of the hotel once stretched out. Judging by the angle of the bridge and the general landscape, I think the pool was once in or near an area that's now occupied by a US Army Reserve center. Here's about the closest you can get with the Google-mobile, looking north from a small side street, Westminster Drive:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psz2uzqyxc.jpgGSV

Can't help but wonder if any of the shapes on the ground here are the remnants of the pool. The hotel is at bottom right (now U.S. Appeals Court).

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psbso8ckfw.jpg

Here's the then empty pool in 1972.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psg1fano1m.jpg
Historic Aerials

Today I believe its that grassy area peeking out from the trees.

Leo Katz mural "Youth Arisen", Frank Wiggins Trade School, Los Angeles, 1935
 

Hmm, dunno if anyone's still interested in this.

I'm in contact with the Leo Katz Foundation. It's run by Katz' grandchildren and great-grandchildren. They may have "Youth Arisen" confused with Orozco's "Epic of American Civilization" at Dartmouth (Katz served as Orozco's assistant on that mural). I'm trying to get that clarified ATM and waiting for second messages from two other institutions.

No inkling (yet) of the mural's current location.

Anyway, here's a photo of Katz in front of "Youth Arisen". It gives a good sense of the scale of the thing:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...51235%2BPM.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...55800%2BPM.jpg
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Also an 80-year-old Associated Press report re the LA mural controversy of 1935:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...50718%2BPM.jpg
google

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8297/...477f7eec_o.jpgVista del Arroyo Hotel pool and cabanas, Herman Schultheis, 1937


The Colorado Street Bridge was designed and built in 1913 by the Kansas City (MO)-based firm of J.A.L. Waddell. With a span of 1,486 feet and is known, of course, for its distinctive Beaux Arts arches, lights, and railings, the bridge is on the National Register of Historic Places and has been designated a National Historic Civil Engineering Landmark by the American Society of Civil Engineers. Marston and Van Pelt designed the Vista del Arroyo Hotel in 1920 and in 1930 George Wiemeyer added the tower. Myron Hunt designed some of the bungalows. In 1981 the hotel and courtyards were listed on the National Register of Historic Places. In 2001 the building became a District Court building. The pool and most of the bungalows have been destroyed. This view of the Vista del Arroyo Hotel pool captures the diving board, patio furniture, umbrellas, palm trees and the dressing tents all in front of the Colorado Street Bridge.

LAPL

I thought I'd label the pool and cement deck. :)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3680/...16205ae7_b.jpgpool by krell58, on Flickr

By the way...I saw something surprising today.
 

I've been living in Escondido for just over a year, and today I finally made it to the Escondido Public Library to get a borrower's card. (I've had one for the San Diego PL, for several months already.)

After I filled out my application and turned it in, I waited for the clerk to go over it. On the wall behind her, I noticed what appeared to be a poster-sized pen-and-ink drawing of something vaguely familiar, apparently true to life yet with artistic liberties towards improving the composition--and possibly fitting it all on the page. A couple of towers, a round gazebo-like area in the middle and four huge old trees. It was because I had to study it for half a minute that it was such a pleasure to discover that it was a drawing of the the old Plaza--as a casual decoration in the library of a small city, a hundred miles away. IIRC a couple of minor buildings on the south side of the plaza were missing, and as we all know the entire east side has been missing IRL since the early 1950s. In fact, the view was from the east side, with the Firehouse, the Pico House, the Plaza Church, and the tower of the Methodist church on the corner of Olvera Street all quite recognizable.

It was nice to see a bit of home in a place which at times still seems a bit new and strange.

I now regret not having asked if I could take a picture of this drawing, but I will make a point of going back in a day or two. If they allow it, I'll share it here.

And someone left roses. I wonder if they're for Norma or for Cary/Randolph?

I agree with HenryHuntington's assessment with a couple of additional observations.

The truck behind the van with the portholes appears to be in tow, while the truck emerging from the alley may be for the transport of compressed gas cylinders. Since this is not an industrial section of town I would hazard a guess that it is was delivering Oxygen for a hospital or CO-2 for fountain drinks, etc.
This type of truck can still be seen today. Indeed, a local supplier to our San Luis Obispo area medical facilities uses one.The cylinders are loaded in a vertical position, sometimes in racks and chained horizontally to keep them stable and in place. Crates of beer for local delivery were also transported in this style of truck. The chained off area on the sides of the truck allow easy unloading from either side.

Cheers,
Jack

Same location but from a different perspective and later date.;) (Post '62, looking WxNW rather than east (above).


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1929 - Holiday Season



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"Does anybody really know what time it is?" "Does anybody really care?"

Sidewalk clock
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"What an Opportunity!"

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1931 - Walker's Department Store, West Fifth and South Broadway
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S&H Green Stamps

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1933 - Walker's escalator. Mind your step.

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March 17, 1930 - At this station, Monday Night Mar[ch] 17, Cecil Hawley, Driver of the Texaco, Transcontinental Record Breaking Car, New York - Los Angeles, will be greeted by Jean Arthur, Paramount Film Star"



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Shall we dance?

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Smile
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Driver obviously has yet to see the gift basket.

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1931 - Midnight Mission. 396 S Los Angeles Street


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Well, today, July 17, 2015...I am up-to-date with page 1,489...I am one-happy camper. RBPjr

:previous: Congratulations RPBjr! I wonder how many others are still catching-up?
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Thanks for the additional information on the lost pool of the Hotel Vista Del Arroyo Tetsu, CBD, MichaelRyerson and Krell58.


1940s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...913/PT0fk5.jpg
http://hometown-pasadena.com/wp-cont...hion-Show1.jpg

:previous: In this somewhat blurry photograph there appears to be a fashion show going on. (note the temporary 'runway' bisecting the pool)

Thanks t2. Can't wait to hear what you learn from the other institutions.

posted by tovanger2
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The mural was larger than I expected. Good find.
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detail of earlier photograph. (1920s)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/PdwAse.jpg

:previous:
The truck might be exiting an 'Auto-Park' next to the Belasco Theater.

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detail

Belasco Theater, red arrow. Auto-Park sign at bottom.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/W6piTy.jpg

...or was the 'alley' next to the Auto-Park? -this seems like an odd layout to me)

Here's the complete photograph again:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29757

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Like a fifth member of the family (sixth, counting the dog) the omnipresent So. California incinerator stands guard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/OXm7ia.jpg
http://guntherbauerfamily.blogspot.com/




And here's Mom, as Dad takes control of the camera.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/8ZfwUE.jpg
http://guntherbauerfamily.blogspot.com/

These delightful photographs were taken just south of Anaheim, in the city of Orange.
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The lighting and color on these are amazing!

City of Orange
 

:previous:

Also the clothing (including a swim cap) and haircuts, the above-ground pool (complete with steps/jumping board... did they sell those?), the deflated pool float, the kids' "Hot Rod" and Mom's chair. Plus the tropical canna lily, the (very) poisonous castor bean plant and the ragged turf.

The suburban privacy fencing contrasts with the industrial chain-link which appears to separate the family's holdings from a livestock operation (?)

What a lot of evocative reference points! I'd love to know what happened to these people.

Thanks CBD! And thanks Krell58 as well! I had my money on either that area or the area to the northwest of that, just beyond the still-standing structure (honestly that area was my first choice, but I was obviously mistaken).

http://guntherbauerfamily.blogspot.c...red-manny.html

:previous:

Thank you!

Do you know the Bauers?

"...wacky and lurid North America" LOL

A. L. Haley / 4th & Hill / 9th & Fig
 

Here's a small curiosity.

Everyone knows what Angels Knoll once looked like:

H.M. Wisler's grocery was spliced onto the front of the Cowper pioneer homestead (the Cowpers were still in residence) at 361 S Hill.
The home was "trucked and removed", presumably without the commercial addition, in September 1911 (no destination given):
On February 15, 1912 a building permit was issued for the bright-white, "class A", reinforced-concrete Black Building to be built at Nos, 355-361 S Hill, to designs by Edleman & Barnett:
Alas, by the 70s, the Black too was gone. I used to stare at that pretty tree from my Hill Street bus. Tramps often camped under it. The tree was a holdover from a Clay Street yard (?). I think it survived and may now anchor the copse at the top of Angels Knoll:

Now. (Who designed and approved those Jetson-style awnings over the Metro stations? I'd rather see reproductions of the 1910-version of the Angels Flight station house all over the place, if something was needed, but we didn't even get one at the actual Angels Flight):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...82920%2BPM.jpg
gsv

Anyway, the curious thing is, another building was planned for 355-361 S Hill Street in 1905, designed by A.L. Haley, but it obviously never got built:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...62519%2BPM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W...61631%2BPM.jpg
cdnc

Arthur L. Haley was one of LA's busiest architects back in the day:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...25932%2BPM.jpg
"Men of California"

The Los Angeles Herald dismissed Haley out-of-hand as a reprobate in 1899:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...21832%2BAM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r...22359%2BAM.jpg
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...but by 1905 the Herald was singing a different tune:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...24146%2BPM.jpg
cdnc

...and by 1907 the Herald was praising Haley without reservation:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/9f...h=w353-h460-no
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/9J...I=w353-h430-no
cdnc

Apparently, Haley had left for San Francisco in 1899 to help in the Spanish-American War effort. Also, by 1905, Haley, back in LA, was no longer living in furnished rooms, but in a splendid house, of his own design, at 2730 Raymond Avenue in the West Adams district. If Haley still had a drinking problem, everyone was too polite to mention it.

Of the hundreds of office buildings, hotels, apartments and bungalows Haley designed, the "Sunnyside", built in 1904, was one which conformed to LA's brief enthusiasm for the Corinthian order:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f...10831%2BPM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R...11216%2BPM.jpg
cdnc

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z...01453%2BAM.jpg
1909 LA birdseye

Ten years later George A Ralphs built an L-shaped, single-story brick building to the east of the Sunnyside (wiping out a single-family home in the process), taking up the corner of W 9th and Figueroa:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...10636%2BPM.jpg
1921 baist map, plate No. 8

The Sunnyside fell in 1966, but the Ralphs building is still with us as the Original Pantry Cafe.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...92000%2BAM.jpg
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(Many thanks to HossC and Beaudry)

Hotel Figueroa Pool
 

Look at this e_r, a snapshot of the coffin-shaped Hotel Figueroa pool after the "Y" building was demolished, but before the pool area was glammed-up:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W...14036%2BPM.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...20858%2BPM.jpg

Both images: losangelesrevisited

Not these Bauers, but my father's mother's family were also Bauers. :)

Things didn't go well for this Los Angeles couple. Maybe someone has more info on this. It may have been seen before on Norish LA.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psbgdv7xyl.jpg
LAPL

I know Dragon's Den isn't new to NLA, but this picture comes with a review - "Never indigestion". The photographer also seems to like the name "Fook Wo Lung Curio Co.".

The seller has this picture dated as 1924 (or "1924-1927?" further down the listing), but the 1940 Federal Building is visible in the background.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...n.jpg~original
eBay

Happy New Year?
 

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/29266

"Murder-suicide, 1951

Murder-suicide, 31 December 1951. Detective Lieutenant George A. Encinas; Detective Lieutenant Bill Cummings; Mr. and Mrs. Charles Sullivan (bodies) (victims).

Coverage date 1951-12-31"

Examiner Collection

Mr. and Mrs. Charles Sullivan had good days and bad days. This was one of their bad days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psu9cmckie.jpg
USC Library

Who killed whom?

(I'm guessing Charlie's bad brain took over)



Oh wait, is he still holding the gun?

I don't know but I suspect that he had the gun....killed her [shot between the eyes] and then put the gun in his mouth. Very LA noir romantic.

Her purse strap is still around her wrist. Either she just came in or was about to leave. I suspect she was going to go out and he objected.

I wonder if he sat on the floor and put his foot under her leg before he shot himself? Not much splatter on the wall above him, most of it is around his head near the floor.

I grew up near the corner of Pico and Norton in the Mid-City are of Los Angeles, and I frequented a small taco truck that would reside on Norton. There's this building across the street from Jewel's Catch One Club (not the church) that seems like used to be a bank. As you can see from the pictures I've attached, behind the building itself (which is where the taco truck now stands) you used to be able to see the words "Bank of...." before it was cut off by paint. Luckily I found a picture on Yelp that shows the words I speak of. Can anyone PLEASE find any information on this? It's been killing me since I was a little kid haha. I'm now 24, and I first noticed it when I was about 8. I no longer live in that area, but if anyone could solve this nostalgic mystery of mine, I'd be truly grateful! The adress of the building is 4027 W Pico Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90019.

http://x.lnimg.com/photo/poster_768/...1b9c87a09d.jpg
http://s3-media3.fl.yelpcdn.com/bpho...DSzQOFuA/l.jpg

Hi Danny:.....This building was built in 1932 and is now Asian owned. Its valued at around $3.5 M. Upstairs there's a large ''ballroom." That's all I know.
Maybe others can find out more for you and welcome to this Forum.