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From the 1938 CD, Lionel E Kent ran a real estate business at 6022 Wilshire Boulevard, Shirley Simon ran Shirley's, a dress shop at 6024 Wilshire Boulevard, and Majestic Upholstery at 6026 Wilshire Boulevard appears to have been a trading name of Abraham Schlamovitch. The directory also lists Benjamin and Charles Schlamovitch as upholsterers - I'm guessing that they were related.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nBuilding1.jpg
LAPL

The 1942 CD lists 6022 Wilshire Boulevard as the Alan Building, and Shirley Simon seems to be the only one of the 1938 residents who's still there.

A small part of the building is just visible on the left of this detail from a 1952 photo that I originally posted in post #25076.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nBuilding2.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

To me, it looks like the building's appearance has already been changed from the one seen in 1937, but I'm not sure that it matches the one we see today. The question is: was the Alan Building remodeled or replaced?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nBuilding3.jpg
GSV

The Billows Motel - "20 ultra modern spacious motel units in refined location", and "recommended by Knott's Berry Farm".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LABillows1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LABillows2.jpg
eBay

The Billows seems to have become the Shamrock Motel by 1962, and was still going by that name in 1969. The photograph below is undated.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AShamrock1.jpg
William Bird on Flickr

The 1973 CD doesn't mention a motel at 6220 S La Brea Avenue. The only entry for that address is Jack L Spangler. By 1987, the Shamrock had become the Travel King Motel. Below is an aerial image from 1980. The main layout doesn't appear to change from 1952 (the earliest image at Historic Aerials) until 1994 (the last image where the motel is visible on Historic Aerials). The images from 2003 to 2005 show just a single building remaining at the southern end of the plot (I'm assuming it's the same one as in the image below). The whole site is now empty.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AShamrock2.jpg
Historic Aerials

1930 - 3607 - 3601 West 3rd Street (Still there - without the gingerbread)
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No waiting at Al's Barber Shop?
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Al's apparently features an exciting array of lilac and rose water.
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Don't be silly, it's Mrs. Zilly's!
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Museum Row / Churrigueresque
 

Thanks HossC for the background on 6022 Wilshire Boulevard. Curbed LA reports that that end of the block is coming down for the new Purple Line Station. The Architecture + Design Museum is moving to the Arts District.

Reports here and here

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...94733%2BAM.jpg
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The Churrigueresque Revival style was very popular in Southern California and still graces some of our best-loved buildings (Chapman Market, Beverly Hills City Hall, etc)

It was Irving Gill's refusal to work in this style re San Diego's 1915-1916 Panama-California Exhibition which caused his break with Bertram G. Goodhue and Elmer Gray. Gill disliked copying decorative historic styles and endeavored to develop a new, local architecture. However, the public enthusiastically embraced Churrigueresque Revival as expressed in San Diego. It remained popular through to the 1930s when Streamline took over.

Wow, I haven't been down Overland for awhile. At least the old Starbucks kept the Ship's building. This modern mishmash is horrible.


October 2012:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...03455%2BPM.jpg

January 2015:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...03239%2BPM.jpg

gsv

The '56CD (and '60CD) lists Majestic at 265 S. La Brea, which means it may have occupied part of the structure currently used by Trader Joe's. The 56CD lists several drapers and upholsters. Address 271 S La Brea a Simca-Fiat dealership as well as "Good and Bad Furniture" and Richard W Lee furnishings. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...00001/00000001

Plenty of posts on this location, e.g., http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=10721 http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=10722 GW's post seems to confirm a drug store, yet the '29CD lists, for the 263 S, La Brea address, a clothes cleaner, so I wonder if this wasn't like today's mini malls with several businesses under adjoining umbrellas, so to speak. :shrug:



1937 - 677 S La Brea. Cedric's flowers with a sidewalk full of poinsettias. (First come, first serve.)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059019.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059019.jpg


1937 - Familiar McDonnell's with E Clem Wilson in the background
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00008/00008723.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00008/00008723.jpg

LOL, when I first spotted those, I thought it was a collection of shacks. But, nothing lasts forever, this too shall pass.

Was that an earthquake? Loud enough to wake the very dead?



There was blasting at the La Brea Tar Pits, to get at the tar.


1890 - La Brea Tar Pits
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In this NLA LINK, FredH introduced us to Jan's Restuarant (aka Jan's Coffee Shop) by way of actress Gail Russell,
a gal with a slight drinking problem.

Still there when FredH posted this on Feb. 1, 2014. While tooling around the internet looking into Ship's Coffee Shop yesterday,
I discovered some unwelcome news.

According to L.A. Eater:
As Los Angeles’ real estate market continues to soar (forcing potential homeowners and new businesses alike to scatter towards
the suburbs), plenty of old school restaurants are starting to feel the pinch. Case in point: Jan’s Family Restaurant on Beverly Boulevard,
which has existed at the same location for more than half a century. On March 15, they closed their doors for good. Furthermore,
the rumor du jour has it that the site will next accommodate a Chipotle, because apparently Los Angeles doesn’t have enough of
those. Want to experience Jan’s one last time? You’ll have to head over to Astro Family Restaurant in Silver Lake, which is owned and
operated by the same family.

There is already a Chipotle right around the corner from there near the Beverly Center. ?

Coffee Shop restaurants are disappearing. There used to be any number of them, both large and small, chains and single-owner places,
all around: I miss them. Where do people eat nowadays that want food like this?

I wasn't familiar with the Astro Family Restaurant, 2300 Fletcher Drive, Silver Lake, Los Angeles 90039. Here's a photo of it:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0...vwy1o1_500.jpg L.A. Facades

From another angle!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3606/3...ffa0d7e5_b.jpghttps://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas...an/3359886111/

A commenter notes that this was originally built by Armet & Davis in 1958 as Conrad's Drive-In.

And in other Googie style Coffee Shop news, this from March 26th:

Celebrities Rally With Community To Save Norms Restaurant on La Cienega

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/...on-la-cienega/

Little help.
 

Refresh my memory. Did someone establish the original building permit dates for the Sunset Hotel (703 N. Spring Street or more likely San Fernando Street) NW corner of Ord? And the original building permit dates for the San Fernando Hotel, NE corner of Ord? Seems like I remember seeing 1888 for both or maybe 1888 for one and 1887 for the other. Can't find any mention in the thread searcher thing. Thanks. Good post coming, I think.

That could very well be the work of Edward Doheny although blasting wasn't mentioned here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_L._Doheny

Peat Fires

L.A. Creek Freak has an excellent article on the peat fires that plagued L.A. on and off for a couple of decades in the vicinity of Baldwin Hills.

Peat bog madness in LA


https://lacreekfreak.files.wordpress...5547.jpg?w=480

Had the date been 25 years later, perhaps the picture could have been explained as a pyrotechnic related to a DWGriffith production. :rolleyes:

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Curious whether the dangers associated with this type of exploratory endeavor was fully appreciated in 1890. At the time, few would have been around to complain, and to whom would they complain and by what manner?:shrug:




undated - An alleged oil well fire (or spritzer?) near Western Ave and 125 Street.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics45/00042278.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics45/00042278.jpg


1924 - smoke from 125th Street and Ballona
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Don't like smoke, fire or heat?


1929 - Wind machine to help fire fighters stay cool
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1945 - Seal Beach. Explosion led to death of five men as diagrammed
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Source identifies this image as Miracle Mile, but particulars, including address and date, are unknown.
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1949
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1888 Los Angeles Panorama
 

Here is a two-shot panorama from the Denver Public Library's William Henry Jackson collection. The photos look south from the hillside just south of what is now the Dodger Stadium parking lot.
DPL estimates the date at c. 1885-1910, but I'm fairly certain the photos were taken around the spring of 1888. UPDATE: No, it was taken c. Oct-Nov 1887. There is some overlap between the two photos.

The Left Half

Running left to right across the bottom is Bernard Street. The "T" intersection of Bernard and Yale Street is just to the right of bottom center, partially obscured by the tip of a plant in the foreground.
Near the left edge of the photo, smoke is coming from the Baker Iron Works, which fronts on Buena Vista Street (now North Broadway). The largely empty area between Buena Vista and Yale is the
excavation of the City Brick Company. The street parallel to and between Buena Vista and Yale that ends at the south end of the excavation site is Castelar Street (now North Hill).
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
Denver Public Library -- http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm...id/12624/rec/2


This is a closeup of the area just south of the brickyard excavation. At bottom center, the two-story building with the two one-story wings and the big front yard is the French Benevolent Society Hospital.
The building to the south with the tower is the Castelar Street School on the SW corner of Castelar and College. In the upper left corner is the Clinton Block at the NW corner of what was then Upper Main
and Walters (now North Spring and Ord). The Clinton Block will later be known as the Sunset Hotel. It is not in the 1887 LA City Directory, but it's in the 1888 CD.
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Here's a closer look at the Baker Iron Works; behind it, through the smoke, you can barely make out the Capitol Milling building on Alameda. The three-story building to the right of Baker Iron Works,
with the writing on the left side and across the top, is occupied by the Heywood Bros. It is on the SW corner of Upper Main and College St. That building burned down on November 9, 1887, but in
this photo it has obviously been rebuilt (No, actually it hasn't burned down yet).

The three-story building next to Heywood Bros, which is actually on the NE corner of Buena Vista and College, is the Mullally Block. The July 1, 1887 Los Angeles Times describes the plans for the
Mullally Block as being "in the hands of the architect," so its construction must not have been far off. At the far right edge of the photo past the Mullally Block is the Woodhead residence on the
SE corner of Buena Vista and College.
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Here's the Woodhead residence in 1883. The note at USCDL indicates the home was "built by Mullally," which would have been Joseph Mullally, Los Angeles brick maker and builder of the
Mullally Block across the street. [Upon further review, this might be quite a bit after 1883. The house looks a bit run down, like the porch used to wrap around the house.]
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USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/1726/rec/4



The Right Half

The U-shaped industrial plant just to the left of the middle of the photo belongs to the Los Angeles Pressed Brick Company at the SW corner of College and Cleveland, which is one block west of Yale.
The road in the right foreground that runs off into the ravine is now Stadium Way; today you'd pass the old Naval Armory on the right just up the hill on that road. The trees barely visible in the
lower right corner are planted around the old Jewish Cemetery in the ravine.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...m.jpg~original
Denver Public Library -- http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm...id/12621/rec/1



Here's a closeup of part of the right half. Near the upper right corner is the original Los Angeles High School building (at this time known as the Central School) with the Fort Moore Hill Cemetery
(labeled the IOOF Cemetery on the 1888 Sanborn Map) in front of it. The Los Angeles Pressed Brick Company at Cleveland and College is in the foreground.

Behind and to the left from the LA Pressed Brick Company, bounded on the west by Cleveland, on the east by Yale and on the south by Virgin (later Alpine), are the modest buildings of the Los Angeles
Orphans' Home Society, which sit on the back of the lot next to Cleveland. The 1888 Sanborn Map indicates that a larger, three-winged structure was being built on this site, and the December 2, 1888
Los Angeles Times says that the building had just been completed and was ready for occupancy. Since in this photo the construction of that new building hasn't even begun yet, that's why I date
these photos at around the Spring of 1888. BTW, at the left edge of the photo, near the base of the hill, is a windmill at the SW corner of Castelar and Walters (previously High Street, later Ord Street),
which you'll see in the next two photos.
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These next two photos are not by William Henry Jackson, but look north at Sonoratown and the hillside where Jackson took the panoramic photos, which must have been near that trail leading up the
hillside at the center of the photo. The old Jewish Cemetery can be seen in the ravine in the distance at the left side of the photo below, taken c. 1885. The windmill at the SW corner of Castelar and
Walters is in the foreground.
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Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/8307/rec/6



This is more or less the same view north over Castelar Street as the previous photo, but c. 1900. At left you can see the larger Orphans' Asylum building with its central tower. Also, the Castelar Street
School has been enlarged.
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Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/3614/rec/14

FlyingWedge wrote:

"The old Jewish Cemetery can be seen in the ravine in the distance at the left side of the photo below, taken c. 1885."

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Huntington Digital Archive

I was wondering whatever happened to the Jewish Cemetery.

Here it is listed as "Hebrew Cemetery" on a map dated 1897.
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https://www.pinterest.com/bigmapblog/


By 1913 it's missing.
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http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...map-collection

I know we've discussed the removal of bodies from the larger Calvary Cemetery (to the east of the Jewish Cemetery), but I don't recall discussing the Jewish Cemetery.

Sunset and San Fernando Hotels
 

I have a feeling your post will be on one or both of the photos I just posted, so I'm looking forward to it . . . .

Anyway, the 1888 Sanborn shows the Sunset Hotel already built, with the San Fernando Hotel building. That's as close as I could nail it down. The future Sunset Hotel is at the bottom at the NW corner of Walters and Upper Main (now Ord and North Spring), with the San Fernando directly across Upper Main:
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LAPL

Thanks to oldstuff and Wig-Wag for explaining the difference between a city streetcar (left) and a 'blimp' interurban (right). It's much appreciated.

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eBay
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It's 1888. Here's a stitched copy.


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8740/...5ae31bca_o.jpgSonoratown from Yale Street, 1888

Looking south and southeast from the heights at Yale Street above Calvary Cemetery, William Henry Jackson, 1888.
Among the various clues is the fully constructed Sunset Hotel and the still under construction San Fernando Hotel. Voila, 1888.

DPLdc


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8699/...581926a7_o.pngThe Sunset Hotel and the as yet uncompleted San Fernando Hotel, detail, William Henry Jackson, 1888

The Sunset Hotel and the as yet uncompleted San Fernando Hotel, detail, William Henry Jackson, 1888

DPLdc


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8724/...bc8645b3_o.pngBaker Iron Works and Capitol Milling from Yale Street above Calvary Cemetery, William Henry Jackson, 1888

Also shown a good shot of the enormous Union Warehouse at Naud Junction and an as yet unpaved Bruno Street.
Also missing is McCarey's Pavilion or Naud Junction Arena which would be to the left of the Union Warehouse.
Notice the relative absence of rails. This view will ultimately be loaded with rails leading into and out of the 'Cornfield' just out of-frame to the left.

DPLdc


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8686/...b3556b7c_o.pngCastelar Street Public School and the French Hospital from Yale Street above Calvary Cemetery, William Henry Jackson, 1888

DPLdc


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8711/...1584d7fe_o.pngPoundcake Hill high school building on Fort Moore Hill, 1888

DPLdc

"By 1855 the [Hebrew] Benevolent Society had dedicated a Jewish cemetery in Chavez Ravine, just south of the modern Dodgers Stadium. The burial ground was replaced in 1902 by Congregation B'nai B'rith's Home of Peace Cemetery on Whittier Boulevard in East Los Angeles."

http://home.earthlink.net/~nholdened...os_angeles.htm

info: http://www.backyardtouristsla.com/20...d-stooges.html

Home of Peace Cemetery, lower right
w/ Calvary Cemetery adjacent
Evergreen Cemetery, upper left
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W...45106%2BPM.jpg
google maps

:previous: Thanks t2. Is the "old gate" from the original location?*

*(t2 deleted the photograph I was asking about) It was a pretty cool looking brick gate.
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I found this interesting 1954 photograph along with the Hollywood Fwy. / Alvarado bus stop photo that we recently discussed.

"Metro Olive St. Bus Depot"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/PwZD8O.jpg
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/30993133@N04/

Is that car turning into underground parking?

and does anyone recognize that apartment building from the back?

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Influential designer Paul T Frankl, moved to LA in '34 and maintained one or more studios in BH. He is known for many innovative designs including his deco skyscraper furniture and and appliances.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_T._Frankl



Only CD listing for Paul T Frankl is (1960) 306 N Doheny Drive. CRestview 6-2073. The structures across from Ralphs (formerly Hughes Mkt at Beverly Blvd/Doheny Dr) appear to be decidedly residential, even if they housed businesses. They do not look anything like the Beverly Hills-labeled images below. Frankl also had a gallery/offices on Rodeo Drive, which do not appear listed, unless they went by another name. I would assume the images below are from that Rodeo location, but perhaps someone can confirm this. There is a '36 listing for Frankl Galleries at 3281 Wilshire, but it is not clear that this has any affiliation with the designer.

Some Frankl designs.
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Huntington has quite a number of images associated with Frankl. Most of them are structures and interior pieces.http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/search...l/order/nosort


1946
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1946
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1946

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??????? (1946 - Beverly Hills??????)
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1946 - Beverly Hills
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1945 - Frankl's Palos Verde Home
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Frankl designed interior (and possibly exterior) of Dr. Schlumberger's office (9622 Brighton Way)
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Interior images of Drs offices: http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/6217/rec/11

This is the site of the old Olive Street School (later the Health Department) between the Trenton on the left and the Fremont which has been torn down but would have been on that upper lot to the right. Here's a shot which shows your apartment building (the Brown Apartments) which would have been up on Grand Avenue across from the Grenada...

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8568/...8d170fb4_o.jpgLooking west from Hill Street as the subway tunnel and building goes in, 1925

Great image of the construction site as the PE Hill Street Station is converted to a massive building and entrance to a subway tunnel which will cross Bunker Hill to Toluca Yard (1st/2nd/Beverly Boulevard/Glendale Boulevard). Here they have breached the Olive Street roadbed and spanned the vacated Olive Street School/Health Department property. The Trenton (on the left) and the Fremont (on the right) look on nervously. The Leonard Rose Mansion at 4th Street and Grand Avenue can be seen behind the Fremont. Nice image of actual steam shovels at work.

LAPL

brickyards/peat fires/cemeteries
 

Thank you Flyingwedge (and MichaelRyerson) for the panoramas, showing brickyards among much else:

More info on the City Brick Company and Los Angeles Pressed Brick Company if anyone's interested.

A few more Peat Fire Pix to follow up on fhammon's interesting post.

I apologize e_r, I fell for a mislabeled photo. That gate is at another cemetery with the same name up north. The Home of Peace community did spend 8 years carefully recreating all the graves and memorials from the Chavez Ravine site at the new location, which is much better than what happened to other early LA Cemeteries.

Home of Peace has a great roster of residents.
Info from Backyard Tourist LA here and here

This discussion triggered my memory of a Times article on a neglected Jewish cemetery in East L.A. I think this is the one:

http://www.latimes.com/la-me-jewish-...htmlstory.html

:previous: Thanks for the link Mstimc. -That's a very interesting article.
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Cemeteries
 

:previous: Thank you for the info Mstimc. I'd been looking for more on the three smaller cemeteries, Agurdath Achim (1919), Mount Zion (1916) & Beth Israel (1907), tucked into a corner of Home of Peace:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...64318%2BPM.jpg
backyardtouristLA.com

Mount Zion looked OK in this view:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...85336%2BPM.jpg
google maps photos

Actually, from the street, it's a bit hard to tell which is which:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...90407%2BPM.jpg
gsv

PS According to Mount Zion's wiki and facebook pages there has been "minimal" restoration

Intro from newbie
 

I want to start of by introducing myself Dodgerblue62 . Im a native angelino ,born and raised in this great city , 4 and 5 generations [ both sides ]. Long time lookie loo , first post . Ive finally read entire L.A. noir forum . Not only amazed but totally greatful to each and every post . Ive learned so much and filled in many holes to my own interests while growing up and some family history . Thank you fellas .

[QUOTE=Tourmaline;6954297]Curious structure.

I would assume those buckets served to house flood lights. (Or could they have functioned as signal lights?) (Or they could contained water to douse unsuspecting passersby on April 1? :P) I also wonder about those small star adornments reminiscent of more modern seismic retrofitting. Spacing suggests that they are not purely cosmetic. Could they be part of the structure's metal framework?:shrug:

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/13183/rec/17



The "buckets" on the wall are tile tubes for the electrical wiring to pass into the building. The wood beam attached to the building has insulators that the wire connect to and then enter the building

:previous: Finally an explanation.....thank you latoetagger!
...very interesting avatar name. Do you work in the L.A. morgue?
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And welcome to the thread dodgerblue62. -glad you found us. :)

I really like that map of Home of Peace Memorial Park tovanger2.
I noticed that the grave of silent film star Carmel Myers is listed.

The beautiful Ms. Myers
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/JFPIzB.jpg
https://www.tumblr.com/search/carmel%20myers

Her father was an Australian rabbi....and her mother was Austrian. (she is buried near her parents)

While I don't know which building is in the background, the picture was taken from the south side of Olive facing north, The retaining wall on the right was the wall from the old Fremont Hotel, at Olive and 4th, a remnant of which still stands. The entrance to the parking area is also still there although there is no street access currently. The part where the buses are is now a parking lot, accessible from the upper edge, near the old retaining wall.

The site "On Bunker Hill" has a description of the picture with an explanation that the edge of the building at left is the Hotel Trenton. There is a map on the site as well which notes that the building in the background is an "Apartment" and gives the address as 414-416 S. Grand but does not give a name.

The whole area has been "eaten" by the phone company

Very interesting 1888 panorama images, Flyingwedge. Thanks for posting them.

I think tovangar2 has pretty much answered the question, but I just thought I'd mention that the Hebrew Cemetery still appears on the 1921 Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wCemetery1.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

For reference, here's what's there today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...wCemetery2.jpg
Google Maps

:previous: Very interesting HossC. What was the City Detention Hospital next to the Hebrew Cemetery? (for criminals?)

I just noticed the quarantine station just below the grounds of the Hebrew Cemetery. (was this in response to the Plague epidemic?

Wow MichaelRyerson, this is an amazing photograph!

As a reminder of what the Olive Street School looked like, this photograph was taken near the end of construction.
(notice the workman's ladder laying across the front steps)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/qmfyR4.jpg
http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...-%201925).html

And thanks for the additional information oldstuff.

former site of the Olive Street School
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/PwZD8O.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/Z67tPU.jpg

I've been trying to find out more information on this rather foreboding building at 2845 W. 7th Street, just west of Hoover.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/lEkPUQ.jpg
GSV / 2007

Today it is the Central American Resource Center, but what was it originally?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/J6jSH1.jpg
google_earth

*I used the 2007 street view because I thought it looked dramatic. ;)
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I found this article in the January 26, 1899 edition of the Los Angeles Herald. It looks like "city detention hospital" was the new name for the "pesthouse", where they treated "various types of contagious disease — smallpox, diphtheria, scarlet fever, typhoid, etc.". Interestingly, the site near Chavez Ravine was still marked "Pest House" on the 1910 Baist map (the name had changed by 1914).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
California Digital Newspaper Collection

Old Hebrew Cemetery/Naval and Marine Corps Reserve Center
 

Thanks HossC. I don't remember ever being aware of that building before:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...13014%2BAM.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-D...12720%2BAM.jpg

pix above: http://livingnewdeal.org/projects/lo...os-angeles-ca/

More info: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-...-3747_1_armory

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All I found out e_r is the building went up in 1930 and the current tenants do laudable work.

The City Directories list The Meyberg Company at 2845 W 7th Street between 1932 and 1939. They appear under the "Lighting Equipment-Manufacturers" heading.

By 1942, the listings change to the Marjorie Montgomery Co (W J Schminke Lola Croonkite), manufacturers of "Billie Marlo", "Marjorie Montgomery", "Call Cruise" dresses, sportswear and beachwear. The Aviation Training Institute also seems to be at the same address.

The 1956 and 1960 CDs list W J Schminke & Associates, dresses at 2845 W 7th Street.


It looks like The Meyberg Company was previously at 631-635 S Grand Avenue. This headed letter dates from 1914.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...o.jpg~original
eBay

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...22709%2BPM.jpg
hollywoodbabylon


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...23159%2BPM.jpg
ruby lane

:previous:Thanks for digging up information on 2845 W. 7th Street HossC and t2.
Do you agree the architecture is somewhat odd? Certain parts of it are almost bunker-esque...well, except for the windows of course.
That's why I wondered about it's history.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/742VdL.jpg
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below: 'mystery' location. ( I just found this last night on eBay)

So what hotel also had steam baths?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/mHsJQg.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item5b0ef93ad1

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And here's another.

At first, I thought this was the same building as in the previous post.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/jySJEK.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item58c1846ac9

Last but not least, here's 'mystery' location #3 for the day.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/U0XEWa.jpg
eBay
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Has this been posted yet?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6d9XLdd9BP...255B1%255D.jpg

http://landmarkadventures.blogspot.c...s-angeles.html

Believe it or not, this is the building at the East 1st/Chicago loop. I'm not sure what year the picture above was taken, but in the 1942 CD I found public baths under the name Mrs Ruth Rabin at 2203 E 1st Street, and the Monte Carlo Hotel at the same address. The building still stands (albeit minus the top couple of feet of wall), but the trees in Lani Vest Pocket Park do a great job of hiding it. In lieu of a decent GSV image, here's an older image posted by Wig-Wag a few days ago.

Brutalism is noir.
 

ER:

Many people call that style of architecture...Brutalist or Brutalism.

Here's a link to several other examples of LA Brutalism. Some people actually like it. I call it S&M architecture!

https://www.laconservancy.org/archit...tyle/brutalist

It strikes me as being somewhere along N. Broadway just above the Corn Field.

CBD called it. My daughter was by today and we were both wondering if the building acquired a Brutalist jacket as part of a remodel at some point (?) It looks encased.

I agree with you on the whole CBD, but I retain a soft spot (if that's possible) for Paul Rudolph's Art & Architecture building at Yale. It's the derivative copies that are horrible. UCLA has been ruined with them.

I'm glad they put a plaque up fhammon. There should be a lot more.

Reading more about the building that replaced the cemetery, I see it's also listed as now being the LAFD Frank Hotchkin Memorial Training Center. Hotchkin died fighting the 1980 fire at this building when it was the Reserve Center.

HossC, I almost fell out of my seat when you said the 'steam baths/hotel' mystery photograph was located at the recently discussed (discovered) 1st and Chicago St. Loop.
That's quite a coincidence!!

Here is a 2009 street view of the old Monte Carlo Hotel and Steam Baths that isn't too bad.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Zmxt1x.jpg
GSV

I wonder if the building in my #2 'mystery' photograph is in this same general area?

While searching for one thing, I found another.

This is a short video (1 minute, 20 second), showing something 'hidden' downtown.

"So here's a mystery, what is behind this fence with razor wire on top, and this blue tarp?"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/F5roWL.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBN0KHgOLFc



"Whatever it is, it's long."
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/xoSTSY.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBN0KHgOLFc


"and they're protecting it with razor wire."
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/72GXl7.jpg


And at the very end, when he lifts up the tarp, he sees this.

"Well...I don't know, there's not enough light in here."
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/mxvAgu.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBN0KHgOLFc

It's pretty obvious to me. Isn't that an old streetcar?

See the video for yourself here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBN0KHgOLFc

I got in the google-mobile and I'm pretty sure I found the location. It's next to the old Subway Terminal Building. (in the video the man says he's on Hill Street)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/orvM8u.jpg
GSV


I jumped back to 2009, when the parking lot was less busy.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/tZfjva.jpg
GSV

So rail fans:
Is there an old streetcar parked downtown next to the Subway Terminal Building?

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:previous:

I thought I'd read the answer on NLA, but then I remembered I saw it in a video.

Check out 'Visiting with Huell Howser': 'Subway Terminal Update' at kcet.org. Skip to about 43 minutes in to see what appears to be the partly-restored streetcar #1435. If you have a spare hour, the whole video is worth watching.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nStreetcar.jpg
www.kcet.org

I found this better picture at www.rrpicturearchives.net. The description says "This is a St. Louis Car (California Car Class H-3 or Type H) narrow gauge streetcar built in 1924. It was originally delivered to the Los Angeles Railway (42" gauge, LARy). After that, it served for Tahoe Valley Lines before going to Orange Empire. Today it sits in the Pacific Electric Subway Terminal, undergoing restoration to become a static display. "

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Streetcar2.jpg
www.rrpicturearchives.net/Charles Freericks

There's an almost identical picture on redcarproperty.blogspot.com, where the location is identified as "Glendale Line at Allesandro Ave. and Whitmore Ave." Another post incudes the 1960 picture below, showing the area when it was being cleared for the Glendale Freeway. The striped building on the corner of Whitmore Avenue still appears to be standing, although it's now surrounded by trees.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
redcarproperty.blogspot.com

The 1948 aerial below is from my post about the Palestine/Holyland Exhibition. It just captures the area in the streetcar photo, with Allesandro Street being the diagonal road that goes most of the way up the right side, and Whitmore Avenue in the lower-right corner.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...xhibition4.jpg
Historic Aerials

[QUOTE=tovangar2;6975957]:previous: Thank you for the info Mstimc. I'd been looking for more on the three smaller cemeteries, Agurdath Achim (1919), Mount Zion (1916) & Beth Israel (1907), tucked into a corner of Home of Peace:

Thanks guys. Not to get too spiritual on a Good Friday, but regarding the Times article, I've always thought there's a special level in Hell reserved for people who vandalize graves.