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GaylordWilshire Jan 16, 2010 8:36 PM

The "Lucy" video must have JUST been pulled. It worked fine yesterday morning, and I've watched it before here.

As for the Fleur de Lis, perhaps Ellroy was inspired by this one in Hollywood, "originally built for actresses — an apartment hotel for those on their way up." http://www.swelgroup.com/fleur.htm NOT that one still equates acting with prostitution--the ladies who built the original WCTU building downtown might have done so, but I would never make such an assumption, even in these days of Paris Hilton etc...hmmm, or would I?) Anyway, I wonder if the Grand Ave Fleur de Lis later moved itself to N. Whitley, or if it's just another hotel by that name. I know that the Black Dahlia was living in an apartment building on N. Cherokee when she died, also apparently for single young ladies, very close to N. Whitley--I'm sure Ellroy would have known about that building. Btw, I once made up a "James Ellroy Tour" using his book "My Dark Places"--centers on Hancock Park, Larchmont area, and other areas north of Wilshire toward downtown, his childhood addresses and young-adult haunts.... a good noir-in-the-daytime driving tour. I'l have to see if I can dig it out.

JDRCRASH Jan 17, 2010 3:59 AM

Wow...I didn't know something like the Mt. Lowe Railroad existed in SoCal.

ethereal_reality Jan 18, 2010 10:01 PM

Gaylord Wilshire, your "James Ellroy Tour" sounds interesting.
Ellroy's book about his own mother's unsolved murder is really haunting.
I found it difficult to get it out of my mind.

GaylordWilshire Jan 19, 2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4655443)
Gaylord Wilshire, your "James Ellroy Tour" sounds interesting.
Ellroy's book about his own mother's unsolved murder is really haunting.
I found it difficult to get it out of my mind.

To be honest with you, I could never really get through his fiction because of his grating "patois"--I think the only novel I read all the way through was The Black Dahlia. But I agree that My Dark Places is superb. As you say, haunting. A must-read for anyone interested in Los Angeles noir. If I find that tour I made for myself, I'll let you know. But it seems you can have it directly from the source--apparently Ellroy gives his own tours. I found this as I was looking for the above picture: http://www.esotouric.com/jamesellroy . I may have to plan my next trip around one of them.

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2010 7:59 PM

I hear you're being inundated with rain in the Los Angeles basin.
I hope everyone's safe.






Below: A 1948 rainstorm at 5th & Flower Street.

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Below: A 1950 rainstorm at Sepulveda & Slauson.


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Below: A 1910 rainstorm at 7th & Grand Ave.


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GaylordWilshire Jan 20, 2010 8:41 PM

Can't help but notice the semaphore signal in the 1948 pic and the signals in the 1950 pic that could almost be current. Great pics.

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2010 8:58 PM

The Embers Lounge (1963) 11332 Washington Blvd. Whittier


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The bar features murals and portraits of nubile 'devil' girls tempting men by the local artist Frank Bowers.





Below are more photos of the 'she-devil' paintings posted by John-O at www.tikiroom.com



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In that last pic, it looks like there is also a muscular boy-devil far right.

http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/...53&forum=16&20


I had to posts these on NLA....the place drips L.A. noir.

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sopas ej Jan 20, 2010 9:10 PM

Great pics, ethereal. So fitting too because of our current rain. It hasn't rained this hard in a long time, it seems.

The Embers looks mighty tempting; maybe if I'm in Whittier some time I'll grab a cocktail there. ;)

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2010 1:30 AM

I posted the following photos today on the Aon Center thread,
so I thought I'd go ahead and post them here as well.




Below: Aon Center construction 1973.


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Below: Another photo of the Aon Center several months later (still in 1973).


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Los Angeles Past Jan 21, 2010 5:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4659291)
I posted the following photos today on the Aon Center thread,
so I thought I'd go ahead and post them here as well.

It will always be the UCB (United California Bank) Building to me. :)

ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2010 10:39 PM

I love all the advertisements and different font types in this photograph.


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Above: 123 S. Broadway in 1949.

It looks like Broadway could use some curb work.

ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2010 10:44 PM

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Above: Wilshire & Flower Street area in 1951. Far left is the art deco Richfield Building.
You can also see the General Petroleum Building under construction.



Today the Petroleum Bldg. is the Pegasus Apartments.

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ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2010 11:17 PM

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Another view of the General Petroleum Building, also known as the Mobil Oil Building, with a menagerie of wonderful buildings.
The art deco Richfield Building with it's ubiquitous tower is far right.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2010 12:29 AM

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Above: Looking north along Broadway from 11th street.





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Above: 8th Street & S. Main St.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2010 12:37 AM

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Above: Looking north along Broadway between 2nd & 3rd Streets.





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Above: Looking north along Main Street between 2nd & 3rd Streets.
I like the cafeteria sign with the clock.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2010 12:49 AM

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Above: North along Main Street between 1st & 2nd streets.








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Above: First Street between Main & Los Angeles Street.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2010 6:02 AM

Belasco Theater.


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Above: No date or address.

Los Angeles Past Jan 24, 2010 10:15 PM

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Belasco Theater.


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Above: No date or address.

This incarnation of the Belasco was on Main Street just north of Fourth.

Johnny Socko Jan 25, 2010 4:46 AM

Hi Guys:

That wasn't the only Belasco Theater...there was also the one that was adjacent to the Mayan Theater at Hill & Olympic:

http://sites.google.com/site/losange...-geocities.jpg

(I have a slightly better historic photo of the two, but I just realized it's on my work PC. Bummer...)

Both buildings still exist. The Mayan Theater is obviously still an active theater, and one with which I have a personal connection: My sister is co-creator, co-producer and performer in Lucha VaVoom, a quintessentially Los Angeles attraction whose "home base" is the Mayan.

The Mayan's current owners also own the former Belasco theater next door, but sadly that building is only used as a storage annex for the Mayan.

sopas ej Jan 25, 2010 4:48 AM

Such cool photos, you guys!

Here's one from outside the big city, in Alhambra, courtesy of LAPL; a car accident, 1941, on Valley Boulevard:
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073540.jpg


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