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CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2014 2:44 AM

I remember people talking about the scandal but I was too young to understand it.

The car in these photos is a 1957 Oldsmobile . The exhaust is fitted into the bumper which denotes its a 98 model [?] The white sidewall tires are odd, as they usually came from the factory with whites. It still looks hot after 50 years.


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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 2:59 AM

Western Air Express dedication, Alhambra. April 17, 1930.

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Bob's Airmail, the early years?
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Panorama found here>http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/4444/rec/18

Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 3:07 AM

A dry run before the big opening?


March 1930
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 4:25 AM


The X Olympiad, 1932 - A glimpse behind the scenes.



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Opening ceremony which was held in Olympic Stadium, with 105,000 persons in attendance

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Olympic Swimming Venue
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Olympic Village Admin Buildings. Also the entrance.

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Das Village



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Pleasant Dreams
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Olympic Village Mess Halls
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and After
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Call letters of the short wave sending and receiving station which is located at Olympic Village. Messages are sent free of charge to all foreign countries for the athletes housed at the Village.
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Printed plan of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles with each of the houses numbered and the public toilets and bath houses labeled.

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The water supply system is next. The pump house can be seen in the foreground with four 11,000 gal. tanks. Two 6" centrifical pumps were used to maintain a constant pressure of 40 lbs. on the lines. This water was lifted by a 6" centrifical pump on a 75 h.p. motor which was located at a distance of 32,000' from these tanks and 137' below this elevation
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Olympic Village parking
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6661565)

Since you're interested in refuse, ever wonder what became of the '32 Olympic Village waste?


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A view of the waste disposal system employed at the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. There is a heap of burning garbage on the left, piles of cans and bins in the center, and wooden barrels and crates on the right.
Olympic debris 1932
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OLympic dismantle
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A view of the beginning of the deconstructing of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. A group of men are working around a truck which has been loaded with the still-assembled walls of one of the buildings. There are long rows of houses still awaiting disassembly in the right and in the background."]A view of the beginning of the deconstructing of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. A group of men are working around a truck which has been loaded with the still-assembled walls of one of the buildings. There are long rows of houses still awaiting disassembly in the right and in the background.
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 4:39 AM

Truth in advertising? :no:


I laugh every time I look at these CC Pierce photos. Notice the similarities. And then there is the crowd that never looks up. :koko:

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Where are the strippers?
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 4:57 AM

Friends gather round, I'd like to introduce you to the revolutionary FloCo Engine. http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/3981/rec/116



1928 - Glendale Airport
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1926 Siemens Tri Plane at Burdette Field - 9401 S. Western Avenue at the intersection of 94th Street and Western Avenue in what is now Inglewood

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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 6:03 AM

One of the more pronounced participants in LA's 1910 Air Meet, LA resident, Professor Jerome Slough Zerbe (1849-1921). 256 S Spring Street, Rm 252 and 522 Stimson Building. (Per 1911 CD) A professor of ?? Author of "Electricity for Boys" (1914), "Practical Mechanics for Boys" (1914), "Carpentry for Boys" and "Aeroplanes".


Clearly the vanguard of aeronautical design.
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Open the throttle smoothly. . .
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Back to the drawing board.
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sadykadie2 Jul 20, 2014 6:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6661614)
:previous:

The first picture is definitely East Washington Boulevard because it shows the General Motors Truck Co at 1850 East Washington Boulevard. The picture below was taken in 1931, but it's the same building.

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The image above is part of a four-picture photoset looking each way at the intersection of East Washington and S Alameda. The truck in the image below is roughly where the dump entrance would be a few years later. The sign is for the Blue Diamond Corp which is listed at 1650 S Alameda (a couple of blocks north) in the 1932 CD. They were in the building materials and supplies business, so it's possible this was their yard just south of their office.

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This picture is from 1961, but shows the curved street in the second of e_r's pictures. East Washington Boulevard is the short street nearly halfway down the left hand side. It crosses Alameda and then sharply curves around the dump. East Washington Boulevard now continues straight across the old dump site.

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You know, the top picture looks a bit earlier than 31'. If you go to the site and magnify it, the woman's clothes are definitely late 20's and the cars seem earlier, too. What do you guys think?:shrug::shrug:

sadykadie2 Jul 20, 2014 6:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661908)

The X Olympiad, 1932 - A glimpse behind the scenes.



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Opening ceremony which was held in Olympic Stadium, with 105,000 persons in attendance

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Olympic Swimming Venue
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Olympic Village Admin Buildings. Also the entrance.

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Das Village



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Pleasant Dreams
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Call letters of the short wave sending and receiving station which is located at Olympic Village. Messages are sent free of charge to all foreign countries for the athletes housed at the Village.
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Printed plan of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles with each of the houses numbered and the public toilets and bath houses labeled.

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Olympic Village parking
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Since you're interested in refuse, ever wonder what became of the '32 Olympic Villiage waste?




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OLympic dismantle

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FANTASTIC set of photos, Tourmaline! Especially the waste, really getting down to the nitty gritty:tup:

CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2014 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661908)

The X Olympiad, 1932 - A glimpse behind the scenes.

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Very interesting post.
I heard that many of the cabins were sold to private citizens and later used as vacation homes at the beach and mountains.

I wonder what the food was like...other than the often sited Helms Bakery goods.


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HossC Jul 20, 2014 10:02 AM

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Last week, when we were looking for e_r's milk bottle on the roof near Slauson, I found that Arden Farms supplied the milk and other "protected products" to the Olympic athletes (full post here). I wonder what was included in the list of protected products?

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That's milk, bread and probably cheese covered - who supplied the rest of the food?

Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 3:34 PM

These photos are clearly supplemental to many other '32 Olympics posts, e.g., Flyingwedge's posthttp://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=19441




Not unlike various "World's Fairs" the 10th O administrators and local movers and shakers did their best to promote LA's athlete accommodations as being state-of-the-art. There is also the suggestion that "special" accommodations were made for foreign athletes' customary meals and other needs. The truth is probably somewhere in between, especially considering a worldwide economic Depression. Since everyone was suffering (economically) there were probably very few complaints.

Most mess hall photos suggest they were communal, yet pictures labeled "Japanese Mess Hall" may suggest some teams were segregated from each other. Whether this also included a special diet is unclear. One might guess that most foreign palates could have been satisfied due to the fair number of immigrants in the LA area. Recall previously posted photos of athletes in traditional Indian garb.


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Note outside shower facilities. Did all athletes read Anglais? Maybe "athlete's foot" needs no translation. :rolleyes:
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A view of the interior of the Japanese mess hall in the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. Five Asian men are sitting or standing among tables on the left, with a man in a suit on the far left and another man in the background. A large window opening onto the kitchen is along the wall on the left.
"Japanese Mess hall interior" or Japanese in a communal mess hall?
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HossC's food suppliers query reminded me of stories I heard from a few '32 Olympiad attendees. One spoke of his introduction to exotic foods including something that may have actually been Velveeta. A little digging reveals that Kraft introduced Velveeta in '28. Whether it was sold in LA? One source suggests by the late '30s it became wildly popular in Germany. With all of LA's strange theme structures-eateries in the '20s and '30s, athletes and foreign press must have seen may bizarre sights that gave birth to equally strange rumors of LA-CA-US life.

Just as Saratoga Springs is the reputed birthplace of potato chips, local lore has it that many foods originated in LA. 1906 - French Dip (Cole's or Philippe's)? 1964 Disneyland and Doritos? Reddi-Whip?


SOME Culinary Invention Claims From the L.A. Area

The French Dip Sandwich - by Phillipe Mathieu (Phillipe Restaurant, L.A., 1918)
The Cheeseburger - Lionel Sternberger (Rite Spot Restaurant, Pasadena, 1924)
The Hot Fudge Sundae - at C.C. Brown's (Hollywood)
The Shirley Temple & the Cobb Salad - at L.A.'s Original Brown Derby (Hollywood)


The History of Eating Out in Los Angeles

Origins of SOME Local Food Empires
1926 - Orange Julius, Julius Freed, Los Angeles
1941 - Carl's Hot Dog Stand (Carl's Jr.), Carl Karcher, Los Angeles
1948 - In-N-Out, Harry Snyder, Baldwin Park
1948 - Winchell's Donuts, Verne Winchell, Temple City
1952 - Fatburger, Lovie Yancey, Los Angeles
1958 - IHOP, Al Lapin, Toluca Lake
1958 - Sizzler, Culver City
1961 - Wienerschnitzel, John Galardi, Long Beach,
1962 - Taco Bell, Glen Bell, Downey
1972 - The Cheesecake Factory, David Overton, Los Angeles
1972 - Gladstone's 4-Fish, Robert Morris, Malibu
1982 - Islands, Tony DeGrazier, West Lost Angeles
1983 - Panda Express, Ming-Tsai Cherng and son, Andrew Cherng, Pasadena

:previous: Lists from http://www.laalmanac.com/history/hi08r.htm


What, no Tom's # 49, Ca. Pizza Kitchen and W. Puck spinoffs? :uhh:

BifRayRock Jul 20, 2014 6:13 PM

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1885
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BifRayRock Jul 20, 2014 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 4838564)
Amazing stuff. I've also always liked that area and how 5th split to run up Hope. And the Engstrum! It's always been a favorite of mine as well, I think because it hung on so long. I'm gonna throw some more Engstrum out there:

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Here's a couple from my personal collection.

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1919. Looking south at the tower of the State Normal School, and the Bible Institue (AKA Church of the Open Door) behind. To the left is the Knickerbocker Building which still stands, sort of, down at Olive near 7th.

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This one I love. That's one happy guy. I especially like that it's taken from the back of the Engstrum, which makes it an even more unusual image. Over his shoulder is the Briggs at 407 S Hope; behind the Briggs is the Hildreth.

Here's some stuff about the Engstrum that I think makes fascinating reading. The idea that we could have one remaining Bunker Hill hotel enchants me. Especially since it was apparently in good hands.

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Engstrom has received a lot of NLA attention. More Engstrom trivia, it had a "bridge" connecting it with the building next door. (Or was it an above-ground tunnel?)


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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6662018)
:previous:

Last week, when we were looking for e_r's milk bottle on the roof near Slauson, I found that Arden Farms supplied the milk and other "protected products" to the Olympic athletes (full post here). I wonder what was included in the list of protected products?

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Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

That's milk, bread and probably cheese covered - who supplied the rest of the food?



HossC, got milk? :haha:

50 pages worth!
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And when you're through with dairy, here is a 225-page assortment of strange uncaptioned images: http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...d/9240/rec/229

Mobile Zanja?
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Martin Pal Jul 20, 2014 6:55 PM

Fantastic Olympic post, Tourmaline, I enjoyed it! (Twice, actually ;) )

Taking note of the Olympic Village and talk about the food, here’s a note from Frank Wykoff, medal winner in the 1932 games, interviewed by the Herald-Examiner in 1972:

Until 1932, teams arrived almost without notice in the city of the competition, were housed privately in boarding facilities, trained on their own, secretly, were transported privately to the various arenas, and customarily, were sent home as soon as their individual events were completed.

"All that ended in Los Angeles," Wykoff said. "Every night at the village, prominent motion picture stars arrived and put on gigantic shows for us all. It was interesting to see the different foods served to foreign athletes and it was surprising, to me, at least, to watch Frenchmen drinking wine with their meals. When you left the village for any reason, there were always big crowds outside, seeking autographs, which were a big thing to us.”


http://frankwykoff2.com/reflections.htm

I’ve always liked this 3-D appearing poster from the 1932 Olympics:
http://www.yourememberthat.com/files...de016e563a.jpg

Promotional photo for the 1932 Olympic Games.
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Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce Collection, Los Angeles Public Library

http://frankwykoff.com/images/Chrono...eerleaders.jpg
Photo from a book written in German - "Olympia 1932".
publisher REEMTSMA CIGARETTENFABRIKEN; Altona-Bahrenfeld

Downtown Los Angeles decorated as the Olympic City in 1932.
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...owntown-1a.jpg
LA84 Foundation

Pacific Coast Highway hosted the cycling road race in 1932 Olympics.
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...932-1a_PCH.jpg
LA84 Foundation

In 1932, the Auto Club posted signs to major Olympic venues as an aid to motorists. No word on who the young lady might be.
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...ADIUM-SIGN.jpg
Automobile Club of Southern California Archives

When oil wells were thought of as decorative.
Olympic rowing competition in Long Beach's Marine Stadium.
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...LongBeachb.jpg
LA84 Foundation

One from 1984: At the Opening ceremony in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, a week away from being 30 years ago. http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...FlagStunta.jpg
LA84 Foundation

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HossC Jul 20, 2014 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6662239)

Engstrom has received a lot of NLA attention. More Engstrom trivia, it had a "bridge" connecting it with the building next door. (Or was it an above-ground tunnel?)

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That bridge actually linked the Edison Building to its annex behind the Engstrum. It can be seen more clearly in this HDL picture posted by Flyingwedge a few months ago.

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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6660210)
I agree. I like the Nose Art photo!



There's a lot of that going around lately. :)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19712

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HossC Jul 20, 2014 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6662141)

Culinary Invention Claims From the L.A. Area
The French Dip Sandwich - by Phillipe Mathieu (Phillipe Restaurant, L.A., 1918)
The Cheeseburger - Lionel Sternberger (Rite Spot Restaurant, Pasadena, 1924)
The Hot Fudge Sundae - at C.C. Brown's (Hollywood)
The Shirley Temple & the Cobb Salad - at L.A.'s Original Brown Derby (Hollywood)

I've also seen claims that the Margarita cocktail was invented by Johnny Durlesser while he was head bartender at the Tail o' the Cock restaurant. He's obviously in a long line of claimants, some of whom can be found here.

Godzilla Jul 20, 2014 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661949)
One of the more pronounced participants in LA's 1910 Air Meet, LA resident, Professor Jerome Slough Zerbe (1849-1921). 256 S Spring Street, Rm 252 and 522 Stimson Building. (Per 1911 CD) A professor of ?? Author of "Electricity for Boys" (1914), "Practical Mechanics for Boys" (1914), "Carpentry for Boys" and "Aeroplanes".


Clearly the vanguard of aeronautical design.
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Form does not always follow function? If Prof. Zerbe hadn't died so early I would like to have asked his opinion regarding goat glands. Some scoffed at Drs. Wheeler and Brinkley! But not Harry Chandler. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13309



1896 - Chandler residence, 503 N Broadway
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But will it fly ? Skepticism? :no:

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Harry Chandler receives honorary degree

1933
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1934 - From the roof of the Times
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