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ethereal_reality May 4, 2014 1:54 AM

Los Angeles, pool hall 1920.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/1dy9p.jpg
ebay

A dank basement somewhere below noirish Los Angeles.
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ethereal_reality May 4, 2014 2:29 AM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/gzxb.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/841/7e4m.jpgebay
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Tourmaline May 4, 2014 2:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6517090)
Sorry, I do not know the answer to your question. Checking the '56 CD, the 8100 Sunset address and H0 2-3411 are both shared by Googie's and Sherry's Cocktail Bar. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...00001/00000001 I haven't seen any later listing for Pippy's, but there is some evidence it was there in the mid-late '70s. (Is that a '70s Cadillac Seville?) Access to earlier listings or paper archives might be helpful. For some reasons I recall reading another name may have graced that location but I can't presently verify.

Googies presentation seemed to be well thought out. Pippy's seems to have been a mishmash of competing signage.


A better image that JD would recognize. Probably from the '50s. Notice second sign: "Googies Coffee Shop."
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho..._2530477_n.jpghttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho..._2530477_n.jpg


1973
http://37.media.tumblr.com/85d239bcc...jplzo3_500.jpghttp://37.media.tumblr.com/85d239bcc...jplzo3_500.jpg

More of the same general vicinity, circa '73:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4bdc3a780...jplzo2_500.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/4bdc3a780...jplzo2_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/283e13530...jplzo4_500.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/283e13530...jplzo4_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/bebbe07c9...jplzo1_500.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/bebbe07c9...jplzo1_500.jpg

CityBoyDoug May 4, 2014 2:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6564082)
Los Angeles, pool hall 1920.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/1dy9p.jpg
ebay

A dank basement somewhere below noirish Los Angeles.
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Hey ER....these are most interesting noir scenes.....!!!!:cool::cool::cool:

FredH May 4, 2014 4:41 AM

Nice photo spread by the L.A. Times on the opening of Union Station.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3de716b4.jpg
L.A. Times

Check it out here:

http://framework.latimes.com/2014/05...tion-at-75/#/1



Tom McCahill was the best. I used to buy Mechanix Illustrated just to read his articles.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps767ce623.jpg
http://chrysler300country.com/tom_mc_cahill_2.htm

I didn't realize that he had died way back in 1974.

HossC May 4, 2014 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6069784)

The Baist Map above is too early to show the 1925 Young's Market Co. building at the SW corner of 7th and Union:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps42756160.jpg
GSV, 2011

More pics and info here: http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...-building.html

The bigorangelandmarks link has a small picture that's similar to the one below, but it doesn't show the original roof signs. USC dates this picture as 1932.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ungsMarket.jpg
USC Digital Library

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6071964)

I wonder who would have been the clientele for Young's Market?

Well, just south of Young's Market on Union Ave. is the old Charleston Hotel & Apts.

http://imageshack.us/a/img571/5294/s...estoniscor.jpg
gsv

The USC picture above shows that the Charleston Hotel used to be the Hotel Strand.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelStrand.jpg
Detail of picture above.


e_r's full post includes more pictures of Young's Market, the Charleston Hotel and several other buildings in the area:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13597


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The 1932 date for the Young's Market picture is confirmed by another picture in the same set. This view of the Boos Bros. Cafeteria at 530 South Hill comes complete with Olympic flags.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...osBros1932.jpg
USC Digital Library

I think I'll go for the 30¢ luncheon.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...sBros1932b.jpg
Detail of picture above.

Boos Brothers Cafeteria being demolished. The photo is dated 10/1/60.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...osBros1960.jpg
Huntington Digital Library


Noircitydame posted some history of the cafeteria here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14625

The cafeteria can be seen in the background of a 1936 picture posted by e_r:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15343

WS1911 posted some great pictures of the B&M Cafeteria which preceded the Boos Bros. Cafeteria:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14622

CityBoyDoug May 4, 2014 5:25 PM

Seems like Old Times with the Boos Bros.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5554825)
The cafeteria business was definitely lucrative...all four Boos brothers moved on up in style and lived in some mighty fine houses, the best of which still stand.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...ington120a.jpgGoogle Books
Henry's house at 1651 Wellington Road in Lafayette Square, ca. 1920...

...and now:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
The house sits on an impressive and unusual-for-the-street double lot.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_...uththen130.jpgGoogle Books
Horace's house at 535 S. Plymouth, ca. 1922...

...and now, with a southside addition in place of the porte-cochere:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520PM.bmp.jpg


Grand, grander, grandest: In the early '20s, Henry moved from Lafayette Square to 454 S. Windsor...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


...and by 1927, he had scored the Petitfils house at 545 S. Plymouth next door to Horace. It's L.A. Historic-Cultural
Monument #835, but still, I couldn't readily find a "then" picture....
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Cyrus eventually joined his brothers in Windsor Square at 555 S. Irving:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-C...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Orlando remained more or less aloof from his bros, at least residentially speaking. Before moving to Manhattan Place east
of Windsor Square, he was around a couple of corners from Henry's Lafayette Park house, at 1739 Buckingham Road:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Btw, right next door to Orlando, at 1727 Buckingham, is the house that some insist was the Cleaver's second Mayfield
house...see this prior post:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1799

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...3%252520PM.jpgGoogle Street View

When I saw the Boos Bros cafeterias, I thought we should revisit their palatial LA homes. Photos, thanks to the peripatetic Gaylord Wilshire.

ethereal_reality May 4, 2014 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6564298)

The Charleston Hotel used to be the Hotel Strand.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otelStrand.jpg

Now's a good to time to post this postcard I've been holding on to. :) I didn't realize the Charleston was the Strand. thx HossC

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/0wpk.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../843/6pwe5.jpg
ebay

I loved seeing the two giant Y rooftop signs on Young's Market.
Oh, and I just noticed there's a small bowling alley in the pool hall photo I posted yesterday. It's way in the back.

ethereal_reality May 4, 2014 6:16 PM

Here's another pretty rare postcard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/ykwf.jpg
ebay
Nellie drew her face in the window of room 34. -cute.


533 South Grand Avenue places it next door to the Mayflower Hotel. So I thought it might appear in some vintage shots of the hotel.

Nope, no Hotel Key West. (this is 1943 so it's a bit late for the Hotel Key West)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/aevj.jpg
This is such a great photograph I had to post it again.
http://hardboiledmartini.wordpress.com/



The Hotel Key West was also close to the State Normal School, so I searched those photos as well.
I finally found it in the lower right corner of a 1913 panoramic photo taken from the Normal School.

just for fun..a close-up of the roof.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../842/nm1bo.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/1303/rec/94



-with a few of it's neighbors..on the same side of the street is the Hotel Marlboro.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/eadm.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/1303/rec/94

-Now that I think about it, maybe the Mayflower Hotel was built on the same lot as the Hotel Key West. What do you think?
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I realize the 1913 panorama with the Hotel Key West has been posted before...so don't bother to point that out to me. ;)

ethereal_reality May 4, 2014 6:42 PM

While searching for the Hotel Key West I came across this photograph of the State Normal School in 1904.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/842/j732.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/

I was flabbergasted by the sheer size of that cliff in the background. It almost looks like a matte painting!
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HossC May 4, 2014 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6564410)
Here's another pretty rare postcard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/ykwf.jpg
ebay

533 South Grand Avenue places it next door to the Mayflower Hotel. So I thought it might appear in some vintage shots of the hotel.

Here's a circa 1910 shot looking across Pershing Square (this may also have been posted before).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Near the center is the Hotel Key West. There's no signage on the front, but the 1909 CD confirms the name.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Detail of picture above.

GaylordWilshire May 4, 2014 6:48 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/aevj.jpg

Hmmm.... the shape and size of the Moderne-ish building to the left of the Mayflower in 1943 shot made me wonder if the old Key West hadn't been remodeled. Then I found this article--not that it's definitive.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT Jan 5, 1927

ethereal_reality May 4, 2014 6:57 PM

The Skid Row Slasher. I thought this photograph was rather noirish.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/6dfw.jpg
ebay

That's a great shot of the front of the Hotel Key West HossC. -thx for posting it.
I'm out of town for a few days. Have fun everyone! :)

Martin Pal May 4, 2014 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6316787)


I had previously posted this small 1969 photo which had lighted and unlighted signs for The Phone Booth Restaurant, which, however, was primarily a strip club.

I found a 1973 photo of the place:

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-116-1.jpg
H.P./Torrence

Martin Pal May 4, 2014 8:50 PM

This is a 1961 photo of the Hangover Restaurant on Vine Street, probably at Selma Ave.
I noticed the photo because of the Seaboard Loans sign which is visible on the outdoor
scenic backdrop of the hotel room when I Love Lucy travelled to Hollywood.

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-065-1.jpg
H.P./Torrence

Update:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28328

THIS POST FROM MAY, 2015, a year from this one, lists the address for THE HANGOVER
located: ...on the NE corner of Vine and Leland Way at No. 1456.

(Now I know it wasn't at SELMA, which is north of Sunset, but I didn't notice
the NBC building in this photo!)

Martin Pal May 4, 2014 8:56 PM

I’ve found some posts relating to the “Zebra Room” in the Townhouse Hotel, but
I found this photo dated 1941...source doesn’t list an address or other location.

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-161-1.jpg
H.P./Torrence

“Cape Cod Room” as well!

Martin Pal May 4, 2014 9:04 PM

The Jade at 6619 Hollywood Blvd.
 
The Jade Lounge at Jerry’s Joynt in Chinatown has been previously posted about and in January e_r did a post about the Jade Restaurant in Hollywood and posted some interiors.

See this post:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18849

Lorendoc did a follow-up post with another interior shot and some further info about the place.

See this post:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18872

Lorendoc said: “I will try to write some more about the Jade and its denizens, if people are interested.” Some posters expressed interest, but Lorendoc hasn’t posted any more yet. We’re still interested if you want to, Lorendoc!

In e_r’s post he wrote about The Jade: “It sounds like an enormous place. I can't remember, have we seen the exterior before on noirish?”

I do not find that we have, and I’ve found a couple of 1937 photos of it.

The Jade: Serving “Pink Jest Cocktails’!
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-080-1.jpg
H.P./Torrence

The Virginia (?) on the second floor.

You like rooftop signs, e_r, but what is that on the roof? Does anyone know?

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-080-2.jpg
H.P./Torrence

Bradley’s is across the street so that street is Cherokee.

1937 - NW corner Hollywood and Cherokee
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098558.jpgLAPL

Godzilla posted the above photo of Bradley’s here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10460

According to information on Martin Turnbull’s Garden of Allah website, this Bradley’s had a gay clientele. And Lorendoc posted a couple noirish items about The Jade, across the street!

HossC May 4, 2014 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6564509)

The Jade: Serving “Pink Jest Cocktails’!
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-080-1.jpg
H.P./Torrence

The Virginia (?) on the second floor.

Could this be the Virginia Apartments at 6629½ Hollywood Boulevard where John Ford once lived? The extract below is from a book called 'Print the Legend: The Life and Times of John Ford' by Scott Eyman.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nFordQuote.jpg
books.google.com

To be honest, I only included the quote about the Murphy Bed because it's the closest I could get to a "noirish man". :)

GaylordWilshire May 5, 2014 12:17 AM

:previous:


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032807.jpgLAPL

In one spot, the LAPL dates this picture as 1955... anyway, the curious box on top came later than the era of the cars in the shot. Would love to know what the box was--what could it have been advertising?


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007813.jpgLAPL


As for Bradley's across Cherokee...the building started out as a bank, then, before the five-and-dime, "'...something strange' was going on at Bradley's, something involving queers"...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...150%2520PM.jpg
From The Story of Hollywood by Gregory Paul Williams

Albany NY May 5, 2014 12:37 AM

Well, the front-end was called "Coffin Nose" so I guess that's Noirish!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6564509)
The Jade: Serving “Pink Jest Cocktails’!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/845/6mea.jpg

Looks like the Virginia had some class. I spotted a rare 1936 Cord Winchester trying to hide around the corner.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/838/a7rn.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/836/0ahr.jpgconceptcars.com

The Cord was a sales failure when new, but is now considered an all-time classic. Maybe the backside wasn't so pretty, but it sported a very unique front.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/835/dlql.jpgvelocityjournal.com

There was at least one other Cord in Los Angeles. This 1937 photo is from the corner of Highland and Sunset, and shows Curries Ice Cream, which was at 6775 Sunset Blvd. (according to the info linked with the photo.) Notice that the "hidden" headlights are exposed on this car. The lights were raised and lowered by a crank in the interior.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/842/9x3d.jpgpinterest


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