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Handsome Stranger Aug 3, 2011 7:47 PM

Dare I say it? I can post frame grabs of location shots from the DVD of Our Very Own, if there is interest.

gsjansen Aug 3, 2011 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5367862)
Dare I say it? I can post frame grabs of location shots from the DVD of Our Very Own, if there is interest.

always an interest...............................(and don't forget, the postman always rings twice!)

GaylordWilshire Aug 3, 2011 8:04 PM

Handsome: Grab those shots. If you can, please try to get a full frontal of the Mccaulays' house-- the address is 700 something I think. I've been looking for it forever...although it could have been on one of those Americana streets on a back lot.

Handsome Stranger Aug 3, 2011 10:29 PM

Here's a whole mess of frame grabs from Our Very Own...waaaaay too many in fact. And I have to apologize because these are not from DVD. Apparently Our Very Own has never been released on DVD. These are from an airing on TCM, so the image quality is unfortunately a bit soft.

In the opening shot of the film, the camera follows a delivery truck as it arrives at an incredibly picturesque home on an incredibly picturesque residential street.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n...NPQ/OVO-01.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-R...6YY/OVO-02.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x...v0U/OVO-03.jpg
[source: TCM]

Now a look at the opposite side of the street and some neighboring houses as Ann Blythe arrives home. I'm almost convinced this is a location shoot. Back lot streets usually don't have as many trees as we see here, because trees tend to obstruct the camera. And the film was made by Samuel Goldwyn (who was financing his movies out of his own pocket by this point), for whom filming on location was likely much less expensive than renting a back lot set from one of the major studios.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o...jVc/OVO-05.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R...VAk/OVO-07.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...UIE/OVO-09.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R...NrE/OVO-10.jpg
[source: TCM]

Here's a reverse looking toward the other end of the street. There's a cross street with a fair amount of traffic driving by.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...L5M/OVO-11.jpg
[source: TCM]

Two shots of the house at night. In the second shot we could be looking at the front of the house rebuilt on a sound stage, so I'm not certain the address is valid.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...pp8/OVO-20.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...-V8/OVO-30.jpg
[source: TCM]

At about 21 minutes into the film we first see the high school.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...L3Q/OVO-13.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...Kuk/OVO-14.jpg
[source: TCM]

Another reverse.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...uvE/OVO-15.jpg
[source: TCM]

Ann Blythe accepts candy from a passing stranger. (Sorry, I made that up.)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...XyQ/OVO-17.jpg
[source: TCM]

Two more shots from the end of the film showing the high school.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...BD4/OVO-26.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A...R9E/OVO-28.jpg
[source: TCM]

One more location, apparently in a bad part of town where unsavory heathens live like savages in houses that are right across the street from railroad tracks! I wish the image was sharper so that the street sign could be read.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7...hjM/OVO-21.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...7_w/OVO-22.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...4r0/OVO-23.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...UTI/OVO-24.jpg
[source: TCM]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...IlQ/OVO-25.jpg
[source: TCM]

I was tempted to throw in a frame grab of 12-year-old Natalie Wood irritating television installer Gus Schilling, but I don't want to go overboard here.

cleats Aug 4, 2011 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5367848)
:previous:

cleats, i wanted to say it's an honor having you join us. i love your book Los Angeles in Maps! very well done!

the photograph that i posted from the LAPL photographic collection of the El Camino Real bell at cahuenga and sunset, is listed in the LAPL summary as;

The location where this bell marker stands is not known .

i figured that the bell was at the intersection of sunset and caheunga due to the directional information on the bell. however, this 1930 photograph , (also fro LAPL), confirms the location..(note the laundry sign)

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011318.jpg
Source: LAPL.....(well duh!)

anyway...another unknown location solved.

(btw, i live for this)

Thank You for the kind words but the pleasure is all mine. I had the great pleasure of working with the legendary Tom Owen who could look at photographs and maps and know exactly the vantage point of the camera or cartography. Sadly, I am missing that gene so I am in awe of those here who can perform that not so easy magic. Not only do I enjoy looking at the images here, I consider the site to be an asset to the good people of LA (if you look hard enough you will find some). I know it has impressed the battling reference librarians of Central library and archivists who visit.

GaylordWilshire Aug 4, 2011 1:37 AM

Handsome-- Fantastic job--thank you so much for those Our Very Own screen caps. So the Mccaulays' house number was 1035, not 700... ok... and now I remember the Pasadena street lamps--the shortish ones with round globes. Ever since I saw this movie on tv when I was a kid, I have wanted to live on that street. Someone here was a Pasadena native---sopas! (i.e., "South Pasadena"). Where are you, sopas? Can you help us find 1035 Whatever Street if it exists? Dinner on me at Romanoff's, Chasens, or Perino's to the first person who can i.d. the street and post Google Street View shots here....

The "Long Beach" shots--the scenes where Jane Wyatt drives down to see Ann Dvorak--can anyone read that street sign? They're probably filmed closer to central LA, or maybe they're Pasadena too--

PS I don't think the Hostess Twinkie lady is going to get much candy from Farley....

I don't suppose you have Three Guys Named Mike on hand, do you, HS? Jane Wyman and the other American Airlines stewardesses lived in a real bungalow neighborhood in LA....

PSS: Cleats-- I have sometimes nerdily sent emails to LAPL and USC with corrections, always feeling sheepish about correcting the people who work hard on identifications. But when I've done it I've always gotten and email back saying that it's appreciated.

sopas ej Aug 4, 2011 2:28 AM

Odd that I would choose to post a random photo of Carmen Miranda selling war bonds in Pershing Square circa 1943, right when someone on here was calling me. :P
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics33/00051008.jpg
LAPL

Look at her platforms!

A few months ago I watched "Down Argentine Way," in all its Technicolor glory. They were supposed to be in Argentina but you can totally tell that they're in southern California. SoCal's distinctive lighting even shows through in Technicolor.

"Our Very Own" looks like a gem! I've never seen it-- Farley Granger, Ann Blyth AND Natalie Wood?!?? Sounds like a must-see to me! Hell, sounds like a must-OWN!

The neighborhood with the nice shady trees looks very Pasadena/South Pasadena-ish-- but I'm not entirely sure. I'm thinking it might be a street off of Orange Grove... something about the cross street with lots of traffic on it makes me think that that would be Orange Grove...

The street with the railroad tracks and little bungalows; I thought that might be Marmion Way in Highland Park, but I don't think it is because of the shot of that car going towards the tracks-- I don't think there's anything like that on Marmion Way through the railroad track section in Highland Park.

The high school is definitely Beverly Hills High, sans Century City behind it.
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6...yhillshigh.jpg
seeing-stars.com

All of these terrific posts! You guys are all awesome!

ChristinaR Aug 4, 2011 5:11 AM

Greetings From the LAPL Photo Collection
 
Greetings,

I currently oversee the LAPL Photo Collection, and now that my colleague Cleats is here, I figured I should come on board too.

I can't begin to tell you how impressed I am with level of L.A. history knowledge floating around here, and Cleats and I are no slouches! It's great to see the Library's photos showcased and I am amazed by how quick some of you catch the new additions to the online database.

We had all been puzzled by the location of the Lindberg billboard, so I am thrilled we were able to finally correct the record. From now on, if we have any unidentified photos, I know where to come! Gaylord, please send us corrections when you find them. A lot of the photos that were digitized early on have crummy records which we are now correcting when our attention is brought to them.

Just to tease you all a bit, in the very near future we will be posting a bunch of 1950s photos of structures on the north end of Bunker Hill. These came out of assessor logs, so there are quite a few buildings we don't have any other documentation on.

Thanks again, and keep on posting!

citywatch Aug 4, 2011 5:16 AM

The photos in this thread are really amazing. even though they're from a time before most of us were----or at least before I was----born, they still give me a feeling of nostalgia, melancholy & wistfulness. They're like taking a trip in a time tunnel & then becoming shocked at how different & yet similar things were a long time ago, & just how fast time is moving.

I last posted to this thread some time ago, on a scene from the movie Chinatown, which had a segment shot in the alleyway next to the biltmore hotel looking towards Grand Ave. It was supposed to be dt in the 1930s, but the filmmakers didn't conceal a bldg in the background that was clearly from the 1960s.

I don't have anything similar to that to insert here right now, or something close to the time & theme of "noire". I'm instead going to slip in a brief segue related to LA from 40 yrs ago, post noire, post counter culture 1960s, but pre disco mid 1970s.

This vid----from the 10 to 27 second mark----shows dtla right around 1971, a few yrs following the tragic demolition of the landmark atlantic richfield bldg :( . It was replaced by twin towers that originally were the headqrtrs of Atlantic richfield, which had just been topped off before this scene was filmed.

this is relevant to "LA" in other ways, since it was produced by the one TV network that eventually moved its headqrts to LA (or burbank).

So while this isn't noire, it's a look back at a time when many of us still had yet to be born or were very young. It's a bit of old technology & culture (pre cable TV! pre internet!), a wedge of cheesiness & a layer of bad polyester....


Video Link



returning to "noire", this fits my mood when looking through the pics of old LA in this thread....

Video Link

Horthos Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM

Im new...first time on a forum...hopefully this works
 
Hey.

Ive been reading this thread now off and on for the past couple months, and I figured I might as well join in and contribute some stuff. Ill introduce myself a bit here...

I live in downtown LA on 5th and spring in the Alexandria hotel, and although I am only 21 and have lived down here only for a few months, its been a fantastic experience so far (I used to live in van nuys...which wasnt). I have always had a fascination with architecture, and have been coming down here for years just to wander around and see things. As for this forum, I hope I can provide some useful information and photos, and learn even more from you all.

ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2011 5:40 PM

Welcome to the thread Horthos!
If you have photos to share...It would be great to see the interiors of the Alexandria Hotel.
In it's time, it was arguably the most lavish hotel downtown.


below: The Alexandria Hotel lobby after a 1936 renovation.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6...ellobbyren.jpg
los angeles public library

Handsome Stranger Aug 4, 2011 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5368216)
I don't suppose you have Three Guys Named Mike on hand, do you, HS? Jane Wyman and the other American Airlines stewardesses lived in a real bungalow neighborhood in LA....

I don't, but I discovered that it's available over here at the Internet Archive. I tried skimming through the embedded video but didn't find shots of the bungalow. And TCM will be running it August 30th...I'll take another look then.

sopas ej, thanks for the photo of Carmen Miranda. Coincidentally, earlier this week I listened to a very good three-part BBC radio documentary about Carmen. I think I need to look again at some of her movies. In fact there are a few I've never seen.

gsjansen Aug 4, 2011 7:35 PM

a stumbled upon a blog page, Piedmont Avenue, that is hosted by a gentleman named Dorian.

he has a posting titled, Dorian's Bunker Hill Los Angeles Page
My recollections of Bunker Hill
, which has several color photographic images taken by him and his father on and around angels flight on it's last day of operation in may of 1969.

what really caught my eye though, are these two images taken of the Castle and The Salt Box after being relocated to Heritage Square. Not only are they in color, but these are the only images i have ever seen of them at heritage square where they weren't on fire or smoldering ruins.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6148/...f89ff854_z.jpg
Source: Dorian's Bunker Hill Los Angeles Page

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/...1504a324_z.jpg
Source: Dorian's Bunker Hill Los Angeles Page

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 4, 2011 10:45 PM

Jonathan Club
 
A beautiful 1909 postcard, currently on e-bay, showing the roof garden of the Jonathan Club when it occupied the top floors of the Pacific Electric Building (nee Huntington Bldg.) at 6th and Main.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/847...anclub1909.jpg
e-Bay

I would assume you accessed the roof garden through the ballroom (below) that was previously pictured in the thread.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/501...nclubballr.jpg
Unknown

~F3

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2011 12:07 AM

^^^That is an excellent find Fab_Fifties_Fan!
I had no idea there was a roof garden atop the old P.E. Building at 6th & Main.
The architecture surrounding the garden is surreal.....much more flamboyant than the staid exterior.
The most surprising is the grand staircase leading down to the garden area.

GaylordWilshire Aug 5, 2011 12:36 AM

The JC, 1910.


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078587.jpgLAPL


(Reminds me of the rooftop café of the old Madison Square Garden, where Stanford White was shot.)

sopas ej Aug 5, 2011 12:51 AM

Wow, the rooftop of the Pacific Electric Building was nice!

Here's what it looks like now:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2024/...62f5b3d9_b.jpg
Photo Credit, Floyd B. Bariscale

Meh. All cluttered and shitty.

Horthos Aug 5, 2011 3:21 AM

Thanks ethereal...
I only wish it looked that decent nowadays in the lobby. With the installment of the 2nd floor during WWll, you wouldnt have a clue that it at one time looked so nice, its very plain and dull now. The only upside is that they did keep all of the detailed ceiling work, only now you can only see it if you go into the "mezz bar".
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...-/P1010212.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...-/P1010215.jpg
The average person here doesnt realize that this was once the ceiling of the lobby, they just think that it was some crazy overly detailed really low ceilinged bar.

cleats Aug 5, 2011 5:21 AM

Parnassus and the Alexandria
 
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics39/00054104.jpg
Back in the 60's I used to be a delivery boy in downtown and used to take envelopes to George Parnassus in his office at the Alexandria. He was Mister Big in west coast boxing and had no fear since his office was filled with the toughest bunch of mugs in LA who all bowed to him. The Alexandria was less than grand in those days and the bar downstairs looked like something out of a B-movie...you might very well see these two dudes holding up a couple of stools in there.
And Thanks Christina for getting these scanned so I can ramble on about the olden days.

Sebisebster Aug 5, 2011 10:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger
Out of curiosity I've got a question for all and sundry here: do you regularly read and/or participate in other websites or blogs that focus on Los Angeles? If so, what are they?

There are three or four others in my bookmarks that I look at now and then, but I don't visit them quite as often nor enjoy them as much as I do Noirish Los Angeles.

NOT in any particular order, mind you
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5366283)
NOT in any particular order, mind you ;)


...and do not forget my own thread:
http://www.urbanity.es/foro/urbanism...y-cristal.html

In spanish language! Use your google translator! Hugs!

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GaylordWilshire Aug 5, 2011 6:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horthos (Post 5368686)
Hey.

Ive been reading this thread now off and on for the past couple months, and I figured I might as well join in and contribute some stuff. Ill introduce myself a bit here...

I live in downtown LA on 5th and spring in the Alexandria hotel, and although I am only 21 and have lived down here only for a few months, its been a fantastic experience so far (I used to live in van nuys...which wasnt). I have always had a fascination with architecture, and have been coming down here for years just to wander around and see things. As for this forum, I hope I can provide some useful information and photos, and learn even more from you all.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pphSmtSQC3.../7bilicke1.jpgBSB

Horthos-- the brick this little boy is laying is the first of the
Alexandria Hotel, as seen in the Los Angeles Herald on
April 9, 1905. Behind him are his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Albert
Clay Bilicke. Mr. Bilicke and Robert A. Rowan, at right, were
involved in many early-20th-century real estate develop-
ments in L.A. (On his own Rowan developed Windsor Square--
Lorraine Boulevard is named for his daughter.)

ethereal_reality Aug 6, 2011 12:58 AM

Horthos, thanks for sharing your photos of the Alexandria Hotel.
I am relieved the elaborate ceiling has survived, despite the fact the lobby was cut (horizontally) in half!!

I honestly believe it will be restored to it's original grandeur some time in the future.

ethereal_reality Aug 6, 2011 1:23 AM

Below is a postcard view of yet another renovation of the Alexandria Hotel lobby (perhaps the early 1950s).

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4...obbyredeco.jpg
postcard/ebay




below: A booth in the 'Gentlemen's Club' of the Alexandria Hotel, circa 1910 (very elaborate for a booth...looks more like a shrine).

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/324/sgrill1910.jpg
postcard/ebay



below: Years later, a view of the 'Masque Room', a step-down bar in the Alexandria Hotel.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6...hemasquero.jpg
postcard/ebay

Any ideas where this was located Horthos?

___________

Handsome Stranger Aug 6, 2011 2:16 AM

Thanks for that link, Sebisebster. It'll be a good way for me learn a little more Spanish. ¡Qué Guay!

And I just found out this afternoon that I'll be starting a short job at the Dominguez Building on Wilshire next week! ¡Magnifico!

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-BUI-083?v=hr
[source: USC Digital Library]

GaylordWilshire Aug 6, 2011 1:09 PM

http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Ba...Lucille_19.jpgdoctormacro


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...8%252520AM.jpgHollywoodland
Her first Hollywood home: 1344 N. Ogden Drive


http://www.bonzao.com/mexho/images/c...cille-ball.jpgbonzao.com
Her longtime Beverly Hills home: 1000 N. Roxbury Drive, now sadly destroyed by a generic '90s remodel

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 6, 2011 5:42 PM

My idol's 100th
 
Thanks for posting that great picture of Lucy clowning around and the pictures of her homes GaylordWilshire!!!

I am an admitted Lucy fanatic and have been collecting Lucy memorabilia for years! Being a child of the 50's, Lucy, in a sense, helped raise me.

The moniker 'Fab Fifties Fan' is completely due to my obsession with Lucy and pretty much everything from the 50's. Here are some pictures of my idol that I love!!!

Lucy 1942
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3835/lucy1942.jpg

One of my very favorite I Love Lucy episodes
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4223/ilovelucyf.jpg

Beautiful Lucy 1963
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8...utifullucy.jpg


And my absolute pride and joy of almost 17 years, my 1958 Cadillac Coupe deVille originally purchased on 11/07/57 at Lou Ehlers Cadillac by Mrs. Lucille D. Arnaz of 1000 N. Roxbury Drive Beverly Hills, Calif. My girl (also named Lucy :)) is always a hit at car shows:multibow!!! Can you just imagine how beautiful that redhead looked driving this car???

~F3
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3108/58deville1.jpg

I LOVE LUCY

all photos personal collection

gsjansen Aug 6, 2011 5:46 PM

I love Lucy and she loves me
We're as happy as two can be
Sometimes we quarrel but then
How we love making up again

Lucy kisses like no one can
She's my Mrs. and I'm her man
And life is heaven you see
'cause I love Lucy
Yes I love Lucy
and Lucy loves me


lucy and desi leaving the desilu stuidos on gower, the old rko studios 1958

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6124/...a11bf5ae_o.jpg

and of course, the fabulous view outside the recardo suite at the beverly palms

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/...e594a26d_o.jpg

sopas ej Aug 6, 2011 6:01 PM

Speaking of which, the Hollywood Museum currently has an exhibit called "Lucille Ball at 100 and 'I Love Lucy' at 60." I'm thinking of going there today. I love me some "I Love Lucy"! :)

http://www.thehollywoodmuseum.com/

Aug. 4 - Nov. 30
THE HOLLYWOOD MUSEUM AND CBS CELEBRATE:
“Lucille Ball at 100 & ‘I Love Lucy’ at 60”

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 6, 2011 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5371031)
Speaking of which, the Hollywood Museum currently has an exhibit called "Lucille Ball at 100 and 'I Love Lucy' at 60." I'm thinking of going there today. I love me some "I Love Lucy"! :)

http://www.thehollywoodmuseum.com/

Aug. 4 - Nov. 30
THE HOLLYWOOD MUSEUM AND CBS CELEBRATE:
“Lucille Ball at 100 & ‘I Love Lucy’ at 60”

Have fun sopas_ej! We're driving up tomorrow to see the exhibit:D

Tony in Glendale Aug 6, 2011 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5363987)

According to this online inflation calculator http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ that $450 down payment was the equivalent of $4,344 now, and that monthly payment would be $666 a month today. Not sure what the terms were, I think financing a car for 5 years was rare or nonexistent then but I'm not sure.

The Big 3 (GM, Ford and Chrysler) didn't really come out with any new car designs until the 1949 model year, the facelifted pre-war designs they had sold like hotcakes for the first few years after the war so they didn't need anything new.

so-cal-bear Aug 6, 2011 7:34 PM

Wilshire Bl 1978-1979
 
.

cleats Aug 6, 2011 9:00 PM

And my absolute pride and joy of almost 17 years, my 1958 Cadillac Coupe deVille purchased on 11/07/57 at Lou Ehlers Cadillac by Mrs. Lucille D. Arnaz of 1000 N. Roxbury Drive Beverly Hills, Calif. My girl (also named Lucy :) is always a hit at car shows:multibow)!!! Can you just imagine how beautiful that redhead looked driving this car???

~F3
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3108/58deville1.jpg

I LOVE LUCY[/QUOTE]

That is one fine looking ride Fab Fifties...if I saw you coming I would pull over and bow!
Here is a surprising find of Lucy's voters registration with commie affiliations!http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics44/00041994.jpg

MikeD Aug 6, 2011 10:00 PM

I think the address of Lucy and Desi's ranch in Chatsworth was 19700 Devonshire. Google Maps puts that smack in the intersection with Corbin Avenue!

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 7, 2011 12:08 AM

Isn't that something Cleats??? If I remember right, Lucy's uncle and grandfather were socialists and always touted the communist party, so Lucy registered as one in 1936 and 1938. The wierdest part is she never voted communist and actually voted for FDR in all three of his campaigns! Screwy redhead....

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2011 12:27 AM

The gangland slaying of two Kansas City mobsters Tony Trombino and Tony Brancato.
The rub-out took place on North Ogden Drive just off Hollywood Boulevard in 1951.



http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6...shootings1.jpg
usc digital archive






http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/395...oting7751a.jpg
usc digital archive





http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7...otingsaug7.jpg
usc digital archive






http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9...otings7719.jpg
usc digital archive




http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7...otingsaug7.jpg
usc digital archive





http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3...otingsstre.jpg
usc digital archive




below: The two residences across the street today.


http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9...nghousesac.jpg
google street view




http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2...otingsvery.jpg
usc digital archive



below: Looks like the owner of the car was a Rotary Club member.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6...otingsrota.jpg
usc digital archive






http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4...timswereto.jpg
usc digital archive




below: The mysterious phone-book found in the back seat of the 'death' car.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7...otingsphon.jpg
usc digital archive




below: Looking north on Ogden Drive toward Hollywood Boulevard. The murders occurred in front of the apartment buildings on the right.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7...otingsaug7.jpg
usc digital archive

below: North Ogden Drive and the apartments as they appear today (amazingly unchanged).

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8...ng2nodgend.jpg
google street view


below: The 'death' car in front of the apartment on N. Ogden Drive.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9...otings7719.jpg
usc digital archive

below: The apartment on N. Ogden Drive today.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8...ng4happene.jpg
google street view




Toe tags.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1...otingstoet.jpg
usc digital archive


_______________

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 7, 2011 12:53 AM

ahhhhhh
 
etheral_reality,

Thank you for that great dose of noir, just what I needed!!! N. Ogden Dr is one of my absolute favorite streets in LA. Not just because Lucy lived there (well maybe a little bit) but because it is so unmolested in that area. And now some noir there too, love it!


I am in the midst of writing up a very noir profile that I will post to the thread soon....

~F3

Ninja55 Aug 7, 2011 5:00 AM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6022/...2f4f4bf7ae.jpg

Cool story about my mom. She passed away two years ago at the age of 93.

Ninja55 Aug 7, 2011 5:01 AM

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Ninja55 Aug 7, 2011 5:02 AM

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Ninja55 Aug 7, 2011 5:03 AM

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Ninja55 Aug 7, 2011 5:03 AM

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Ninja55 Aug 7, 2011 5:04 AM

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Mom ended up on the design team that produced the Lockheed P-38 Lighting fighter plane.

GaylordWilshire Aug 7, 2011 3:45 PM

Great details
 
Ethereal-- fantastic noir--

Maybe it's why you posted about the hit in the first place, but I noticed that you did it exactly 60 years to the day after the rubout:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520AM.bmp.jpg


I love the Rotary Club sticker on the backlite of the Olds:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...2520AM.bmp.jpg


I'd forgotten about the Burgess brand of batteries and their distinctive black and red stripes:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520AM.bmp.jpg


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...2520AM.bmp.jpg

all pics usc digital archive

malumot Aug 7, 2011 3:46 PM

Ogden drive
 
You know what I notice?

Check out the onlookers. Keeping a respectful distance, but surely close enough to get a good look-see. While I'm sure there were a few "Stand Back" and "Keep Away" orders from the cops, this didn't come anywhere NEAR how they treat scenes like this now.

They would yellow tape the neighborhood for BLOCKS around.

The better to preserve all the evidence? I suppose. But I also get the sense that cops treat the civilian looky-loos at a level only slightly above the criminals themselves.

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2011 4:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5371674)
Ethereal-- fantastic noir--

Maybe it's why you posted about the hit in the first place, but I noticed that you did it exactly 60 years to the day after the rubout:

Whoa! I didn't realize I posted it 60 years to the exact day (cue spooky music).
I've been meaning to post them for a month or so but I've been a bit lazy.

_________

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2011 9:38 PM

I know we've seen photos of this Simon's on Wilshire Boulevard but I certainly don't remember this particular photo.


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5...tosimonson.jpg
los angeles public library


The first thing I noticed was the makeshift 'Halsco Land Yacht' sign.
At first I thought it was an advertisement for the omnibuses that took tourists up and down Wilshire Boulevard.


It turns out a Halsco Land Yacht is a travel trailer (below is a 1936 model).

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7466/halsco.jpg
iowaboy

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6206/halsco2.jpg
iowaboy

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1...1model1936.jpg
iowaboy

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7040/halsco3.jpg
iowaboy

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8919/halsco1937.jpg
iowaboy

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/106...7landyacht.jpg
iowaboy






And last but not least.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/579...scolandyac.jpg
iowaboy

ethereal_reality Aug 7, 2011 10:05 PM

A great billboard along Wilshire Boulevard.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/398...t521w7thst.jpg
los angeles public library

I'm guessing the 'cube' with the women's portraits rotated.

Handsome Stranger Aug 8, 2011 5:21 AM

More eBay finds. Someone auctioned several original color slides showing Hollywood in the 1940s; here are ten of them. Bidding ended earlier this evening and most of the slides went for quite large sums of money.

1941: Hollywood Hotel
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...52520HOTEL.jpg
[source: eBay]

1941: Looking North on Highland Ave. from Hollywood Blvd.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...252520BLVD.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: Looking North on Highland Ave. toward Franklin Ave.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...520TROLLEY.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: Intersection of Hollywood & Vine, looking Northeast.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...252520VINE.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: Fifth Church of Christ Scientist. (Anyone know where this was located?)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...0Scientist.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: Hollywood Post Office, 1615 Wilcox Ave. (I would do unspeakable things in order to be granted ownership of any one of those cars.)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7...2520OFFICE.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: The Brown Derby.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1...52520DERBY.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: Tom Breneman's on Vine St.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...AN%252527S.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: Looking North on Vine St. from Sunset Blvd.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...E%252520ST.jpg
[source: eBay]

1948: NBC's West Coast Radio City.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...520STUDIOS.jpg
[source: eBay]

(Some of the experts here may notice minor anomalies in one or more of these images. Although I was careful in removing the seller's mark from them, a few were quite difficult and the results are less than perfect.)

gsjansen Aug 8, 2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5372263)
1948: Fifth Church of Christ Scientist. (Anyone know where this was located?)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...0Scientist.jpg
[source: eBay]

north west corner of hollywood boulevard and la brea avenue

the church building was completely remodeled in 1959, and looks like this today

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics46/00072772.jpg
Source: LAPL

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics46/00072773.jpg
Source: LAPL

so-cal-bear Aug 8, 2011 3:48 PM

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