June Fairchild
 

Actress June Fairchild and her ups and downs were discussed a couple of pages back, so here's one of June and yours truly from the 2008 40th anniversary showing of the Monkees movie "Head". Looks like June is doing much better these days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...adjunetony.jpg

Picture by my friend Molly

June! The chick on the roof!

Normandie Village
 

Perhaps some here at the site will recall that I've been trying for a long time to find any information about a long-gone, picturesque 1920's apartment complex on the Sunset Strip called Normandie Village. Nobody here had ever heard of it or knew anything about it. Finally, just in the past several days, an article about Normandie Village appeared in the "Hollywoodland" blog:
http://allanellenberger.com/book-flm...ge-apartments/
A friend who lived in West Hollywood in the 50's remembers it well and said it was large, maybe a half-block square in size.
At the bottom of the blog article, one of the people making a comment includes a link to a great L.A. Times photo showing just how interesting and wonderful Normandie Village was.
http://www.latimes.com/classified/re...0,956968.photo

Another L.A. treasure, demolished and forgotten in the 60's.
I hope some kind soul here will post the article and photos, as I don't know how to.

JeffDiego, I just 1)right clicked on the image and clicked where it said 2)copy image location, then when posted to this thread I 3)clicked on the little yellow image insert with the little mountain in it and 4) right clicked in the http window and 5) clicked paste and viola, image posted
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2006-04/23171140.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2006-04/23171140.jpg

Kanhawk:
Thank you!! I will follow your directions next time.

Gas Towers
 

The Gas Towers featured in the Best Years of Our Lives was originally located in the areas near the CA 101 North Freeway near Downtown Los Angeles close to Union Station.

Posting pictures
 

I struggled with this too, for a bit. Then I found out you can't just click on the thumbnail in Flickr or Photobucket or whatever, and get the picture to show up in your post with the IMG tag. I don't know about the other image hosting sites, but this is what I did in Flickr.

(1) Open flickr and go to the picture I want. Click on the thumbnail.
(2) Right click on the picture, one of the resulting options is a one-line menu. "Show all sizes" then a list of sizes. Click the one you want, probably the largest, usually.

(3) You should see the image appear. Somewhere above it you should see the link "Download the Large size of this photo", or "Download the Medium size of this photo", etc., depending on what you chose in (2).

(4) Right click on the link and from the resulting menu choose "Copy Link Location".

(5) Now when you're composing or editing your post and you click on the Insert Image link, what you copied in (4) is what you paste in the dialog pox.

Hi,

I was very happy to find this site by googling. I am a new member now and love this thread, which is an amazing 301 pages! I am from LA, I guess you could tell that from my name here ;)

I have searched many pages of this thread, but it is so slow, since there are so many wonderful pictures all of you have shared. Seeing how my city has changed is so amazing. It is wonderful to see some of those Miracle Mile pictures, since that is where I grew up in the 50's and 60's :)

I hope it's Ok to ask for some help in a search for a photo I am after...

I am looking for an early aerial photograph of the area around 37th Place and Hill Street. An artist friend has his studio he built there and I would love to show him what the area looked like before.
Here is the area
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...7at55904AM.png

TIA... Steven

Some early Hollywood images that we may not have seen before
 

I'm especially interested in Cahuenga Blvd. and the Cahuenga Pass. Here are some early images that I don't recall seeing here before.

The Cahuenga Suburban, April 1896.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070617.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070617.jpg



1910 Real Estate Values

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070827.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070827.jpg



A curious "Map Of Cahuenga" from 1877. Perhaps this was a proposed development that never came to be? Any thoughts?

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070949.jpg


Cahuenga Pass, undated, 1

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011492.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011492.jpg



Cahuenga Pass, undated, 2 (I think I recognize this exact spot...will try to do a "now" shot at some point)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011509.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011509.jpg


Ice Cream billboard in Cahuenga pass, undated

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047061.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047061.jpg

The intersection of Hill Street and 37th Place is almost, but not quite in this aerial...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...thcaptions.jpgLAPL
Take West 37th Street about three blocks below the bottom edge of the picture to
Hill...hang a right and go a block... and you're at Hill and 37th Place.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...2520PM.bmp.jpgPhotobucket
A vintage map showing Hoover Street when it still ran south from Jefferson to
Exposition.

Dear GaylordWilshire,

Thank you so much for such a quick response. Yes that first picture is the area, but I was hoping to find a clearer historical picture when there were houses on those streets. That second map is super cool.

Again, thank for looking and posting the pics! :cool:

:previous:

Well, LA, I've been looking for pictures of West Adams/University for years--to me, one of the most interesting and overlooked areas of old L.A. Vintage shots of houses east of Figueroa, other than perhaps on Adams, are very rare. There are actually quite a few old houses still standing in the area you're talking about--perhaps hundreds. You'd get a better idea of the residential character once there by driving around, or Google Street Viewing... here are a few examples. (Alot of the early lamp standards are still in place.)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
East side of Hill Street, just south of 39th


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
Northwest corner Broadway & 33rd


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
Long one of my favorites...southeast corner of Grand and 33rd

I guy I know from another forum hiked up to the crash site about a year ago. Here are some recent pics.

http://birdandhike.com/Hike/Other_Ar.../DSCN1224a.jpg

http://birdandhike.com/Hike/Other_Ar.../DSCN1221a.jpg

http://birdandhike.com/Hike/Other_Ar.../DSCN1218a.jpg

http://birdandhike.com/Hike/Other_Ar.../DSCN1202a.jpg

All from http://birdandhike.com/Hike/Other_Ar...d/_Lombard.htm

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAPL
Engine Co. 16, once atop Bunker Hill at 139 N Hope...

...and, with southerly addition, 1960:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00079/00079156.jpgLAPL

Rare is it that a classic (if not especially unique) Los Angeles building was replaced with an icon (or, at least, what
was to become an icon). The Department of Water & Power is now on the west side of Hope between First & Temple:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

Hi all -- I tried to search this thread for some info, but couldn't find it, so apologies in advance if this building has been covered. Do you know the history of this building (from Google Street View) at the Southwest corner of Grand & 7th in downtown?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7147/6...a6f1fc3594.jpg
Screenshot - 1_17_2012 , 2_53_04 PM by brents74, on Flickr

It looks like it may have been a department store, but I'm not sure.

:previous:

Ragnar... there have been a few posts here about Robinson's downtown. Start with this one of ethereal's:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=912

OK, thanks! Maybe my search missed it because in Ethereal's post it's described as "7th & Hope"? So much good info in here it is hard to sift through it all! I figured it had been covered...

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008635.jpgLAPL
Fred... yes, it was the one on the southwest corner of Wilshire and Ardmore. Eaton's seems to have started out as a
chain of chicken restaurants...did Cain pattern Mildred's after it? Steaks--and the "STEAKS" sign in your picture--
were added later. There were separate chicken and steak operations in Beverly Hills, and I think we've
seem some menus of other stores here before.... (Btw, I sure do miss the defunct "Extinct LA Restaurants" site.)

The Westjoy Dance Studio at 8844 Wilshire and the Nacy White Studio at 8846 Wilshire both in this charming little building.

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/8...dance1940s.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4778467





http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/273...ldance1940.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4778467



below: If you look down the block there is yet another Dance Studio (I can't quite make out the name).
I was surprised to see one of those huge Examiner signs in the far distance. I didn't realize that there were any in this area.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/827...0plusexami.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4778467




below: You can see the Examiner sign slightly better in this photo. You also get a glimpse of a very nice building across the street.....perhaps a supermarket?

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2...e1940plus1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Num4778467ber=




below: LAPL says the building is still there but highly remodeled. Here's 8844 today. It looks sad to me with it's big-shouldered neighbors.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9...0sitetoday.jpg
google street view

I wouldn't have guessed this was the same building.


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G_W, I'm amazed you found the same house on Miramonte Blvd. that was featured in the 1907 ad. Good job!

______

Back in my college days, I had a classmate/friend who lived in this area, we met in one of my math classes. He would always refer to it as Huntington Park, but actually it's Florence, an unincorporated LA County community. He lived a street east of Miramonte, a street called Converse, in fact he lived north of the intersection of Converse and Florence. I had known him for a whole semester, and then one day he asked me for a ride to his house, he seemed embarrassed about where he lived; of course I gave him a ride home. I mean yeah, it's a working-class area, but I thought it was nothing to be ashamed about. Hehe in fact I thought the guy had NOTHING to be ashamed about---I had a big crush on him at the time.

But yes, 12 minutes to downtown can be done from this neighborhood, even today. It's very convenient to downtown. And on clear days, you really can see the mountains.

Good luck with your venture to 836 Catalina minkykat. Sounds interesting.

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;5553892]
below: If you look down the block there is yet another Dance Studio (I can't quite make out the name).
I was surprised to see one of those huge Examiner signs in the far distance. I didn't realize that there were any in this area.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/827...0plusexami.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4778467

That was the Maurice Kosloff Dance Studio and School of everything else at Wilshire and Robertson.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4921/kosloff.jpg

Gaylord_Wilshire posted about Maurice awhile back.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3054


~Jon Paul

:previous: Good find Jon Paul via Gaylord_Wilshire.

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'Noirish' discovery under the Hollywood Sign last night, January 17, 2012.


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1...discoveryd.jpg

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ead-found.html

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Just heard on the news that two hikers found a bag containing the severed head of a man below the Hollywood Sign. Modern day Norish Los Angeles!

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1...lywoodsign.jpg
Personal photo

and I see you were posting the same time as me e_r!

~Jon Paul

We were in Westwood this last weekend and I was studying this block of Westwood Blvd. area to see if I could find any remnants of the fantastic streamline modern design in these incredible photos. No such luck:(

Morgan Green Clothiers at 1045 Westwood Blvd. 1938
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/185...ngreen1938.jpg

Ladies shops in the 1000 block 1938
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/439...dblvd19382.jpg

Different angle of the ladies shops
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8...odblvd1938.jpg
all photos Dick Whittington Studios LAPL

~Jon Paul

Hi Steven,

Try http://www.historicaerials.com/
When the map loads up, type in your search criteria
For example: in this case type in hill street, 37th place, los angeles
You can move the map around or widen the area with the slider at the bottom.
If you turn on the street overlays, its easier to find the location you want.

Here are a couple of maps: (one older, one more recent)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5710/1948m.jpg
historicaerials.com/

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9991/2004ih.jpg
historicaerials.com/

:previous: I still can't get over how awful the original entrance/nightclub area was (the top half of the photo above). What happened I wonder...did they decide at the last minute to tack it on? If it was still the same architect (like they say), why didn't he design something complimentary to the rest of the hotel? Sorry to go on and go.


I always thought the 1950s addition destroyed the look of the hotel...but from looking at these earlier photos I'd have to say it was never an architectural masterpiece. One would have to say it's fame came from the events that occurred there.....the Academy Award Ceremonies at it's extremely popular Coconut Grove Nightclub, and much later the assassination of RFK.


below: An aerial of the Ambassador Hotel from 1987 that I don't recall seeing before.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9...iermendosa.jpg
Javier Mendoza

Are those gas tanks/meters on the distant horizon? Could this have been the area where they found Elizabeth Short's body? (I need to check my 1947 map...I could be way off the mark). Note: In one of the photographs of the murder scene there is a gas tank in view.
(of course now that I mentioned it I can't find that particular photo)


I just noticed the stand alone tall building building visible in the upper right. Does anyone know what this building is? It looks fairly ornate.

:previous: I never noticed this before....this postcard view of the front entrance is actually a side entrance (see the photo above)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2...odawfulent.jpg
ebay

I must say that I like the tasteful clock above the doorway (actually, the whole ufo inspired entrance canopy is pretty awesome)

FredH, that is so cool!!! :cool:

Being able to go to the site and slide the newer image over the top of the old one is just amazing. The only drag is, that the image quality of the '48 picture is so bad compared to almost all the images of places shared here on the site :/ I have written the company to ask if the quality is any better when purchased. But I thank you so much for sharing this place with me!

You know, I have gone through many pages searching for that particular image of the place I want, but it is so hard to go through the pages, since I am always stopping and looking at the cool images posted here! :) I drove from where I live, around LACMA, to Glassel Park and took surface streets. I really looked at the city differently seeing many buildings that I wondered... what was this place when it was built? So thanks to all the people posting pictures here and for the helpful advice I have been given so far.

Here is that photo from a previous post etheral_reality:
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/9...meterdeath.jpg

You may be on to something there. On this map you can see the distance between the site where the corpse was found (bottom of map) and the Ambassador (top red square). That gasometer was probably one of the ones on the horizon.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/267...ssadortoes.jpg

~Jon Paul

Hi again FredH,

Here is the answer I just received
"Hello Steven,

If you're not satisfied with the image in the preview than it's not likely to meet your requirements. If you zoomed-in and the image is blurry you have gone beyond the pixel resolution. We provide a digital image only and the fee ranges between $5 to $20. If you click the purchase button it will bring up a thumbnail with the price of the download.

Best Regards"

I hope I can find a better quality image of that area...

The incestuous world of Los Angeles cafeterias...
 

I only used the word "incestuous" above to be noirishly provocative. This isn't really noirish at all, but I was surprised to learn that the mother of the Boos brothers was a Schaber, of the Schaber's chain of cafeterias.... Per the LAPL, "When Horace Boos died in 1926, the surviving brothers sold the seven cafeterias for a record $7 million to the Childs Corp. In turn, Childs sold two of the cafeterias to Clifford E. Clinton, who launched the Clifton's chain. Eventually, Henry Boos bought back two, one on Hill Street and the other in Avalon on Catalina Island." The Boos location at 648 S. Broadway became Clifton's Brookdale (the '60s facade of which, as we've seen, is now being removed: see http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4945 and http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4946).


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008594.jpgLAPL
326 S Broadway, labeled 1930s...not sure how this fits into the Boos timeline. ...Anyway, there's a McDonald's on the
spot today.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008642.jpgLAPL
620 S Broadway, then...

and now...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

The Boos Catalina branch...
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081790.jpgLAPL

A domestic history of the Boos brothers...
 

The cafeteria business was definitely lucrative...all four Boos brothers moved on up in style and lived in some mighty fine houses, the best of which still stand.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...ington120a.jpgGoogle Books
Henry's house at 1651 Wellington Road in Lafayette Square, ca. 1920...

...and now:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
The house sits on an impressive and unusual-for-the-street double lot.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_...uththen130.jpgGoogle Books
Horace's house at 535 S. Plymouth, ca. 1922...

...and now, with a southside addition in place of the porte-cochere:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520PM.bmp.jpg


Grand, grander, grandest: In the early '20s, Henry moved from Lafayette Square to 454 S. Windsor...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


...and by 1927, he had scored the Petitfils house at 545 S. Plymouth next door to Horace. It's L.A. Historic-Cultural
Monument #835, but still, I couldn't readily find a "then" picture....
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Cyrus eventually joined his brothers in Windsor Square at 555 S. Irving:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-C...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Orlando remained more or less aloof from his bros, at least residentially speaking. Before moving to Manhattan Place east
of Windsor Square, he was around a couple of corners from Henry's Lafayette Park house, at 1739 Buckingham Road:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


Btw, right next door to Orlando, at 1727 Buckingham, is the house that some insist was the Cleaver's second Mayfield
house...see this prior post:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1799

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...3%252520PM.jpgGoogle Street View

:previous: Wow, what beautiful homes! I'm so glad they have survived.

The ornate Schaber's Cafeteria building at 620 S. Broadway is pretty special as well.
I especially love the intricate grill work in the three arched windows. Notice in the older photo this grill work traveled down
each side of the windows..today it only appears at the top of ea. window.

Yes, that's the gasometer photograph I had in mind Jon Paul.

I just noticed a gasometer in this photograph as well (far right..barely visible).

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/3...agasometer.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3345511...4579/lightbox/

I don't think this photo has been posted before as I would have remembered the somewhat seedy Temp-Hill Hotel.
(I also used the search ap at the top of the thread).

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5...0ch1temhil.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4780973






below: This is a better view of the open-air corner store that shares the building with the Temp-Hill Hotel.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9...0ch1fromth.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4780972

And now they have found a severed hand as well a little ways away from the head

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...137579028.html

"Investigators found a second human hand Wednesday when they returned with search dogs to a popular hiking trail a day after two dogwalkers discovered a severed head in a bag at the location below the Hollywood sign."

Maybe Eatons purchased their chickens from the Studio Poultry Ranch.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4...oaddress19.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4780680

Has anyone heard of this place before? (LAPL didn't include an address)

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520PM.bmp.jpg

They have either started or are about to start a complete resoration of this building, including re-doing the lost metal and stone work. It will be great.

I haven't checked this thread for over 12 months. 303 pages and still going strong! My congratulations to all the regular posters. You may have put together the best photographic database of LA history to be found on the interweb.

I may be posting this in the wrong forum, and if that's the case please ignore me. But you all seem to be pretty informed about older homes (and much much more) in the area, and I thought you might be able to help me. I've been looking for the house in the following screen caps. I most recently saw it on a rerun of MSW. None of the actors were shown with the house so it could very well have been stock footage the production company bought. Of course stock footage could come from anywhere, but the fact that the same house has been used by different productions over different decades made me think it might be somewhere in the Los Angeles area.

It seems to be big old home - Victorian, turret, wrap-around porch, and all that. And it seems to be on a corner lot. I've looked through as many classic Victorians I could find in the LA area listed online, but have never come across this one.

Anyway, does anyone recognize this house?

:previous:
Hi MWR, my first thought was possibly Angelino Heights, but as you said, this footage can be from anywhere. It's possible that it might not even be Los Angeles but somewhere else in SoCal or even NorCal.

Welcome to the forums, BTW. :)

Is that Mildred Pierce waiting for a bus? Of course decades later, that drive-in diner-looking place would be the site of Tower Records. Ah, Tower Records, how I miss that place.

1940, Sunset and Holloway, West Hollywood.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/927...oway1940he.jpg
LAPL

GREAT photo, sopas_ej. I had to stare at it for a few minutes before the recognition locked in, but...fascinating. Too bad we can't read the billboards.

How about Dino's? Of course, that was Dean Martin's bar-restaurant on the strip, just a few blocks away at 8524 Sunset. They had a cozy fireplace, a good bar, and superb views. It was actually a pretty great little spot, within walking distance of my WeHo digs back then, and even a nobody like me was made to feel welcome. Man, I'd love to go back there one more time. Good memories. (The menu is dated 1959, well before my time there. ;))

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...a/14229-01.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...a/14229-02.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...a/14229-03.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/dbtw-wpd/exec...=&MF=&MQ=&TI=0

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vF5HhjX4fU...4a6_large.jpeg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RS9H0TpQnt...3466b6db47.jpg

http://martinostimemachine.blogspot....nos-lodge.html

The Los Angeles Times has just run a nice set of photos, showing Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell
signing their names in cement at Grauman's Chinese Theater in 1953.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg263...jpg&res=medium
Los Angeles Times

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg268...jpg&res=medium
Los Angeles Times

The story and four additional pictures are here:

http://framework.latimes.com/2012/01...their-fame/#/0

Ya think Marilyn took some time picking out just the right dress to wear?

Made a good choice! :dancingbacon

Scotty Bower's book, "Full Service," about his adventures as Hollywood's male madam of the 40's and 50's, arrived today from Amazon. A wild story, and extremely well-written. Definitely some surprises. Gore Vidal recommends it in his blog.
The gas station Scotty and his crew worked out of from 1946 to 1950 was called Hollywood Richfield Gas Station at 5777 Hollywood Boulevard, corner of Van Ness.
Bowers writes that there was "a brick motel across the street" where rooms were available for overflow customers. Anyone know what motel that was?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...shireccext.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...shireccint.jpgGoogle Books
The Wilshire Country Club, ca. 1922. From what I can see via Google, the building has been replaced or remodeled...
anyone know?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpgjericl cat



Well, Jeff, while we're reviewing books...I looked at Full Service at the Strand, where it's half-price, no shipping... and I still didn't buy it...the book, I mean. Maybe every word is true, but it looks like a sad rehash of the same old stories, such as Cary & Randolph, Rock Hudson, ad nauseum. Exposés of Hollywood hypocrisy seems a little unsurprising at this point. Somehow you doubt that this guy was as personally popular as he thinks he was with the stars who paid him--and what a pal to try to cash in (again) on it all now. (And Gore Vidal's rec is not exactly worth much these days. There's another one screaming, remember me!? I'm not dead yet! I'm not a bourgeois square! I slept with stars! I had sex once!)

And while I actually slogged through the whole thing...Michael Gross's new Unreal Estate is similarly mind-numbing. Panting descriptions of the excesses of owners of some houses in BH, Bel-Air etc wear mighty thin.

Btw, I wouldn't want to read so much repetitive detail about the sex lives or domestic arrangements of poor people either! And I am very very interested in L.A. domestic architecture of the early-20th-century....

sopas... I think you're right--this is exactly the moment when, down on her luck, looking for work, Mildred looked across the street at the drive-in and told herself..."I'm going to have a chain of my own restaurants!"