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Flyingwedge Jan 26, 2014 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6420633)

I can't find any references to Richfield Boron Gasoline in NLA, so here are a few contemporary advertisements:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Amazon

The Richfield station at the SW corner of Slauson and Sepulveda on March 15, 1958, has a banner indicating that Boron is a new thing. I took a tour of Richfield's Watson refinery shortly after the merger with Atlantic, and I remember getting a red, yellow, and blue folding yardstick that mentioned Richfield Imperial Boron, but I can't find the dang thing at the moment:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/50842/rec/10

Is that a '54 Buick Special in the foreground . . . I mean forewater? "Hey, slow down! I know your car has portholes, but it's not a ship!" The chrome around the headlights makes the car look like it's sleepy -- like a person with bags under their eyes. But I'd probably take a baggy-eyed Buick over a buck-toothed Buick.

GaylordWilshire Jan 26, 2014 1:09 PM

:previous:

What's better than an early-morning old-car id challenge? That's actually a '54 Super about to drown its Dynaflow. Note the upper-series cowl--that of the Special and Century differed from the Super and Roadmaster--and the three ventiports... only the Roadmaster had four in '54. (In '55, only the Special would have three.)

Among the other vehicles I see a couple of Chevrolets--perhaps three--and '52 and '53 Mercurys.... There is still an ARCO station on the corner.


Apparently it was a flood-prone intersection--the LAPL identifies the photo below as Sepulveda and Slauson, dated 1954. (That's a '52 or so Chrysler.)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/15/5bw1.jpgLAPL


And another, dated by the USCDL as January 13, 1952--the building at right is the same as the one above; at left is a Union Oil station:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520AM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

Tourmaline Jan 26, 2014 3:46 PM



Mixed [up] messages? :uhh::uhh::uhh:


Forget truth in advertising and hyperbole, how about proof reading?

"Boron is factor . . . "?

My old cars saw more than their fair share of aquatic (deep puddle) operation, but for a moment, the message seemed to be that Boron could make any land-based vehicle perform like the Nautilus. Alas, not a single mention of Boron's rust preventative qualities. Maybe Richfield also marketed Turtle Wax and Simonize?


"New Boron fuels may enable jets like the B-58 to circle the world non-stop!" Wonder if Boron-laden jet fuel had anything to do with the aircraft's inverted position? Showing its best side to the city below? Indeed, as I read the text, it is not even clear that Boron is being used in the Hustler's fuel. "Could."


This 1910 photo is labeled "[Glenn] Curtiss in speed contest." Wonder if the Balloonist was giving Curtiss a head start? Imagine how history could have been different had Boron been involved.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GUSL445FQJ.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GUSL445FQJ.jpg


Source characterizes this as "Aviation:Airplanes:Biplanes" and "Chariot Racing - California- Pasadena." If the date is right "1911 or 1912", Ben Hur's biplane climax was ahead of its time. Wonder how Boron might affect equines?
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RQAKNXXRMH.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RQAKNXXRMH.jpg


Most of us tend to think of Gasoline storage in large tanks. This undated image is of Wilmington warehouse filled with drums of av gas. First layer of fuel drums seems to be "topped" by a "floor" of wood planks.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040605.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040605.jpg



Sensational!
Quote:

Photo shows part of the new $12,000,000 refinery of the General Petroleum Corp. at Torrance. The new plant is producing the sensational super 100-octane aviation gasoline for Uncle Sam's air forces. Photo dated: January 15, 1944.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037055.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037055.jpg


Vehicles better suited for refueling at Slauson and Sepulveda?

LA Attacks! Splashing up support for Army-Navy show at Coliseum, January 8, '44.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044051.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044051.jpg

Oct. 6, '43 (In front of Hall of Records?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054542.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054542.jpg

Quote:

B-58 Arrives at Los Angeles at end of Trophy Flight, Photograph, March 5, 1962
http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/675.../m1/1/med_res/http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/675.../m1/1/med_res/

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 4:45 PM

oops. I just noticed the Eustace Plumbing shop I placed at 830 Ceres Avenue (per the 1909 city directory)
has a street number of 708 on the corner of the door.

I can't believe I missed this the first time around.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/9g25.jpg

So now I'm really confused. Could Ceres have been renumbered, or am I just completely wrong? :(

Here's my initial post showing the 1909 directory.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19138

Retired_in_Texas Jan 26, 2014 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6423424)
Mixed [up] messages? :uhh::uhh::uhh:


Most of us tend to think of Gasoline storage in large tanks. This undated image is of Wilmington warehouse filled with drums of av gas. First layer of fuel drums seems to be "topped" by a "floor" of wood planks.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040605.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040605.jpg

Aside from av gas for domestic bases and aboard aircraft carriers shipping it in drums was a necessity due to temporary air fields both in Great Brittan and the Pacific. As a bit of a somewhat long forgotten info on WWII aviation gas, the highest octane fuel was obtained from a form of asphault known as Gilsonite which was mined in Utah and shipped on open rail cars in large canvas bags to a point where it was processed to release the oil contained in it. The high octane fuel was destined for use in British Spitfires and P-51 Mustangs. One can only imagine what the EPA and OSHA would have to say about the storage and shipping of gasoline in 55 gallon drums.

The mountainous conditions in Utah and the tremendous amount of weight being transported lead the the creation of the double articulated steam locomotives by the Union Pacific Railroad unofficially known as "Big Boys." For you folks in L.A. there was one of the 25 of these monsters built during WWII on display in Pomona until last year when it was moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming to be completely restored by the U.P. with the idea of using it to tour the U.S. as a rolling railroading museum.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-52e45c38/t...014012-001/600

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2rWVRr1JX

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 6423225)
At 513 W 5th, the 1956 directory has a listing for "LA Car Rental System," which I'll wager was Warren's. The 555 address for Hertz would be to the pictures' left, as the arrow on the second one indicates.

The Sanborn map of this address:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/30/rolm.jpg
lapl.org

shows a narrow gap to the west of 513 W 5th, which is visible in the second picture. And the pictures show a perceptible grade up to the left (west) up toward Bunker Hill.

Good sleuthing Lorendoc!
You're much better at reading Sanborn maps than I am. Most of the time I can't make heads or tails of them.
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GaylordWilshire Jan 26, 2014 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6423480)
oops. I just noticed the Eustace Plumbing shop I placed at 830 Ceres Avenue (per the 1909 city directory)
has a street number of 708 on the corner of the door.

I can't believe I missed this the first time around.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/9g25.jpg

So now I'm really confused. Could Ceres have been renumbered, or am I just completely wrong? :(

Here's my initial post showing the 1909 directory.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19138


ER-- I believe we looked into this once before-- master plumber Garrett Joseph Eustace appears on census and voter rolls from the '90s on into the '20s--in 1922 he is listed at 709 Merchant St...which is two streets away from Ceres...but then this still isn't "708"... hmm. In the 1904 CD, his business is listed at 128 N Main.

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 5:55 PM

:previous: oh...I forgot. Thanks for the reminder GW.




Is there treasure buried beneath the Hollywood Bowl? -1939
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/30/jjez.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/202/ngr2.jpgebay

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 6:11 PM

mid-century modern

Vine & Selma
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/703/4ge3.jpgebay

a bit blurry
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/rdzi.jpg

Flyingwedge Jan 26, 2014 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6423480)
oops. I just noticed the Eustace Plumbing shop I placed at 830 Ceres Avenue (per the 1909 city directory)
has a street number of 708 on the corner of the door.

I can't believe I missed this the first time around.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/9g25.jpg

So now I'm really confused. Could Ceres have been renumbered, or am I just completely wrong? :(

Here's my initial post showing the 1909 directory.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19138

This is from the 1906 LA City Directory, under Plumbing and Gas Fitting:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
Fold3.com

708 E. 9th Street is just east of San Pedro Street; just a parking lot there now.

ProphetM Jan 26, 2014 7:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas (Post 6423484)
The mountainous conditions in Utah and the tremendous amount of weight being transported lead the the creation of the double articulated steam locomotives by the Union Pacific Railroad unofficially known as "Big Boys." For you folks in L.A. there was one of the 25 of these monsters built during WWII on display in Pomona until last year when it was moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming to be completely restored by the U.P. with the idea of using it to tour the U.S. as a rolling railroading museum.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-52e45c38/t...014012-001/600

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2rWVRr1JX

That should be, will be moved to Cheyenne. I've been following the story of UP 4014 for a few weeks since I heard about the move. Of the 25 built, 8 Big Boys remain in various museums or on display outdoors. UP 4014 was the best-preserved and that's why UP chose it for re-acquisition and restoration.

To summarize the article, it spent the last couple of months being moved across the LA fairgrounds parking lot, and just last night it was moved onto the Metrolink tracks for transport. It was on display at the Covina Metrolink station this morning. Then it headed west on the Metrolink tracks to Bassett, where it could connect with the UP tracks. It began heading east on the UP track toward Colton about an hour ago. As I type this the train appears to be near Diamond Bar.

Here's a schedule page:
http://www.up.com/aboutup/special_tr.../details.shtml

And a map page to track it as well:
http://www.up.com/aboutup/special_tr...team/trace.cfm

They're slow-loading at the moment as they may be getting hammered with traffic. The engine will be on Display in UP's Colton yard next weekend and the weekend after that, but there's no schedule up yet beyond that. I am eagerly awaiting news on when it will come through here in Vegas!

GaylordWilshire Jan 26, 2014 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6423632)
This is from the 1906 LA City Directory, under Plumbing and Gas Fitting:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
Fold3.com

708 E. 9th Street is just east of San Pedro Street; just a parking lot there now.


There it is-- thanks, FW

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 8:02 PM

:previous: mystery solved.:) -thanks flyingwedge.
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tourist snapshots, 1948. -radio landmarks
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/s4tu.jpg
ebay

GaylordWilshire Jan 26, 2014 8:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6423581)
mid-century modern

Vine & Selma
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/703/4ge3.jpgebay


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3...2520PM.bmp.jpgLA Times Dec 16, 1959


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpgLA Times June 26, 1960


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics29/00064046.jpgLAPL 1981

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 8:15 PM

-interesting matchbook
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/833/v7lh.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/824/7bq5.jpg


radio log. -notice angelus temple
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/r1pn.jpg

I believe we've seen 1120 S. Main Street before on NLA.

Here it is. (the white building in the center)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/824/djmy.jpg
USC http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=992





-the building still stands. I'm pretty sure we've seen this before/after on NLA, but I couldn't find it for the life of me.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/21/qh2z.jpg
GSV

What are those wonky trees?
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ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 8:24 PM

Child labor 1915, Los Angeles

posing in front of a stand advertising soft drinks.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/607/i4yl.jpg
ebay



-intriguing store in the background, but I'm afraid there aren't enough clues to figure out the exact location.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/132/z30f.jpg
ebay

I believe that's more than ornament on the curved stairs...they're openings to let light into the basement.
The courthouse here in Lafayette has the same openings under it's stairways.

Martin Pal Jan 26, 2014 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6423424)
LA Attacks! Splashing up support for Army-Navy show at Coliseum, January 8, '44.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044051.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044051.jpg

Curious if anyone knows--what exactly would this Army-Navy War Show entail, what would they do there and what was it for?

It says it's free to the public. Were they hoping to sell War Bonds or keep up enthusiasm or...? Just wondering.

Martin Pal Jan 26, 2014 9:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6423560)

Henry's sons don't seem particularly excited about this whole endeavor! Wonder
if anything was ever found? Although, I guess we might have heard about it.

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 10:21 PM

This video with it's lively incidental music will brighten your afternoon.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/545/xqci.jpg

Here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rk1r6M0G8I

enjoy:)

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2014 10:33 PM

Did you catch the Tick-Tock Toluca in the video?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/10/3gah.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/18/z70s.jpg
-it looks like it had a roof-top sign. *drools*;)



Of course the original and most famous Tick-Tock was on Cahuenga in Hollywood.
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