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FredH Jan 22, 2014 5:10 AM

1957 - Demolition site of the 300 block North Main Street. Orange fallout shelter sign on lamppost. Military recruitment signs along sidewalk
in foreground. Hadley Building is at right background. Union Station and L.A. Gas Works at Ducommun Street and Central Street are visible
in background.

Last Baker Block building at 330 North Main Street, Los Angeles, awaits its demolition.
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/95...90/14/nia9.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6205/rec/7



330 North Main Street building being demolished at boarded up construction site, former location of Grand Central Hotel, Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/94...0/850/xrde.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6201/rec/5

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/91...90/19/vtc8.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6199/rec/4

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/95...0/802/t249.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6199/rec/4

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/94...0/819/hjlb.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6199/rec/4

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/72...90/14/9pxh.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6199/rec/4


Military recruitment posters from left to right appear to be Marines, all five services, Air Force, Navy,
and (ah yes) travel. Travel, I discovered, is not a problem in the military...its the destination.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/11...0/845/7r4t.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6199/rec/4

FredH Jan 22, 2014 5:30 AM

1957 - Building housing the Arizona Cafe and the Federal Loan and Jewelry Company at 318 North Main Street, Los Angeles, being demolished.
Security First National Bank is visible at right background.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...90/41/oxpy.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6204/rec/6

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/99...90/35/3rol.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6204/rec/6

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/89...0/577/v2vf.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6204/rec/6

FredH Jan 22, 2014 5:49 AM

1957 - View of the Sentous block with the building at 617 North Main Street being demolished. This part of the block is just north of Our Lady Queen
of Angels - La Placita church, seen in the background.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...90/41/71ir.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6159/rec/8

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/97...90/46/h8v7.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6159/rec/8

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/97...0/571/pr85.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6159/rec/8

Colonel Mustard Jan 22, 2014 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6416548)
A fascinating 1938 sepia image I found on ebay last night.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/835/sogt.jpg

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USC has a similar view, from a year later.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/32/ydmv.jpg
USCDL

GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2014 4:11 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/19/z9ok.jpgLAPL

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/716/l7mn.jpgLAPL


Where is sopas when we need him? Don't know if we've seen this Pasadena Van de Kamp's before--styled like the mother ship in Atwater Village--anyone know where it was, or--wouldn't it be nice--still is?

Note the interesting signpost at the corner--resembling the street signs once in downtown LA and out along Wilshire. This one appears to have a globe on top...

GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2014 4:48 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/824/4ldf.jpgwaterandpower.org

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/713/6x6i.jpgGSV


Also not sure if we've seen this before--I guess I have to admit that, given the length of the thread and the balky search feature, it's getting harder & harder to tell--but here's a pretty dealership at 297 W Colorado in Pasadena. Great vintage shot with a Pierce-Arrow and the make's distinctive fender-mounted headlamps.

Per the W&P caption: "View of the Hewson Motor Company showroom at 297 West Colorado. Architect: Frederick Kenedy Jr.... The car at the curb with 1927 dealers' plates is most likely a 1927 Pierce-Arrow Model 80. In 1928 Studebaker took over Pierce-Arrow and in 1930 local Studebaker dealers Keller Brothers and Marcy Auto operated at this location. In 1935 is was called Earl Lundy Motor Company."

Another hyphenated brand is now in residence.

P.S. Lose the pink!

BDiH Jan 22, 2014 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6415848)
I couldn't agree more. Your identifications have been superb FredH. Thanks for all your hard work.
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The dump site could be 129 East Elmyra Street or 129 West Elmyra Street, with North Main being the dividing point. It is not clear if her body was found east or west of North Main. If the killer was driving south on North Main (from the pick up location of Mission Road and North Main), it would have been easiest to turn right (west) on Elmyra and drop the body in the gutter on the passenger side of the car. But, alas, who knows?

Lwize Jan 22, 2014 7:30 PM

Just an update to an ongoing story affecting many old structures around LA:

Quote:

UC quake researchers give L.A. list of old concrete buildings

January 21, 2014, 8:23 p.m.

The University of California has released to Los Angeles city officials a list of about 1,500 old concrete buildings that are potentially at risk of collapse during an earthquake.

The release was significant because it gives city officials the first look at identifying concrete buildings most likely to fail in an earthquake -- and it could help officials take steps to strengthen the structures.

Los Angeles city officials have known about the risk of concrete buildings for decades -- ever since several collapsed in the 1971 Sylmar earthquake, killing about 50 people. Despite past attempts to do so, the city has never completed an inventory of the buildings.

The university scientists stressed that the list does not amount to a list of dangerous buildings. Rather, they are a list of concrete buildings built before 1980. Each would need to be examined more closely and undergo extensive testing to gauge their vulnerabilities -- because while some of these pre-1980 buildings are vulnerable, others are not.

The researchers estimate that about 75 of the 1,500 buildings on the list could collapse in a large temblor. Past earthquakes around the world suggest that about 5% of old concrete buildings could collapse in a major earthquake.

Earthquake researchers widely agree that the collapse of concrete buildings poses a high risk of death in a California earthquake. After the Northridge earthquake caused two concrete buildings to collapse and severely damaged others, structural engineers warned that the collapse of a single concrete building "has the potential for more loss of life than any other catastrophe in California" since the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

“Compared to many other types of buildings, taken as a whole, they are more dangerous,” UCLA civil engineering professor Jonathan P. Stewart, a co-author of the report, said Friday. “There is a genuine problem here.”

In an interview on Friday, the lead author of the research, UC Berkeley engineering professor Jack Moehle, said the data-gathering project was complete and his team wanted to help the city in its efforts to deal with the problem.

"We would like to be helpful to the city, to help them move forward,” Moehle said. "It's the time to release the data.”

Moehle confirmed that the university sent over the underlying data, which includes addresses, Tuesday afternoon.

During the Northridge earthquake in 1994, two concrete buildings collapsed catastrophically: a Bullock’s department store and a Kaiser Permanente medical office in the San Fernando Valley. Hundreds could have died had the earthquake occurred during the workday, and not at 4:31 a.m.

The dangers of concrete buildings were exposed during the 1971 Sylmar earthquake. Concrete structures crumbled at the 46-year-old Veterans Administration Hospital in San Fernando, crushing patients under the debris; 49 people died.

Seismic experts were more alarmed by Olive View Medical Center in Sylmar, which had opened just months before and was built using stricter codes. The five-story hospital lurched sideways when some of its first-floor columns broke. Three concrete stairwells toppled. A two-story psychiatric building collapsed. Three people died.

After Sylmar, L.A. officials beefed up seismic codes for new buildings, requiring more steel inside concrete columns to prevent chunks from breaking away. The extra steel acts like a cage, keeping the concrete in place, even if the column cracks.

But structures built before the mid-1970s remained at risk because many lack adequate steel rebar and can't bend. Engineers call these buildings "non-ductile."

After a Times story in October highlighted the dangers of older concrete buildings, city officials have moved to address the hazard. There are two proposals before the Los Angeles City Council that would create a list of older concrete buildings in the city.

Last week, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti partnered with U.S. Geological Survey seismologist Lucy Jones, who will act as his science advisor on earthquake issues. Garcetti has asked her to come up with recommendations by the end of the year on retrofitting issues, including how to get privately owned concrete buildings retrofitted.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...0,361138.story

Retired_in_Texas Jan 22, 2014 11:38 PM

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Retired_in_Texas Jan 22, 2014 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6417792)
Just an update to an ongoing story affecting many old structures around LA:



http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...0,361138.story

As a matter of personal opinion, the idea that those old buildings can be somehow reinforced to prevent collapse in a major Earthquake is almost wishful thinking, especially with the apparent notion that reinforcing the lower level or levels will solve the problem. The problem is the "warp" that occurs during an Earthquake. Any building over five stories will see that effect which could easily severely compromise the entire building and once an upper floor drops that weight is going to cause a collapse of each subsequent floor beneath it, as we saw when the World Trade Center in NYC collapsed. Different structural concept than the old buildings in L.A. without question but the fact is when the force of dropping weight exceeds the weakest point's ability to deal with it, a building will collapse. Concrete columns depending upon re-bar to hold them rigid will indeed fail. Some even having "I" beams might well fail if size and strength of the beam is marginal.

Best plan is to condemn all those buildings as being unsafe for occupancy before they kill someone, particularly since many of L.A.'s fault lines are now known to be potentially more hazardous than previously thought.


GaylordWilshire Jan 23, 2014 1:01 AM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Jasperdo

Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5613768)
The Baltimore Hotel....Absolutely Fireproof!

http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/BaltHo.jpghttp://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal1a.html

"Baltimore Hotel, at the southwest corner of Fifth and Los Angeles Streets. Formerly, the Baltimore Hotel was at the northeast corner of Olive and 7th, on the other side of the downtown area; this new edition of the Baltimore Hotel was built in 1910. Two buildings to the right—that is, west on Fifth Street—we see a brick building with white oriel windows projecting. This is the Charnock Block, built April to October 1889, and located at the southeast corner of Fifth and Main Streets."

From A Visit to Old Los Angeles.

Galeria Real in Baltimore Hotel, Los Angeles (10-1-23):
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...0FE329A7B?v=hr USC Digital Library

Here are current reviews of the hotel:
This place is a GREAT place to hole up for a week and smoke crack like the world is going to end tomorrow! Half of Los Angeles' sex offenders and violent criminals can be found living here -- really great if you need advice on how to construct your very own Fifi towel, how to kill someone with a pair of car keys, or if you're into IVing cheap, sludgy heroin and need tips on how muscle it in even the most abscessed limb.

Entomologists shall delight at the garden of roaches, bedbugs, lice, chiggers and other assorted invertebrates that blanket the walls of this manor. Shag carpets in the hallway are surprisingly clean... but that could be because of all the random carpet farmers you'll see scrounging around down there, at the foot of their doors, picking away to keep them clean. Who needs a vaccuum? Neighbors are friendly, if exuberant -- especially the ladies! -- kicking in your door at 2am, offering companionship at rock bottom prices.

Wow! And the concierge service.... I have never had my keys and ID shoved at me so fast underneath a bulletproof glass window before. What efficiency!

AND the best part is, it's dirt cheap!!! So you can save some money when you walk a few blocks over to your fancy-pants dinner at Cicada. I love Downtown Los Angeles!

Courtney "Skullduggery Tricks" H.

Today:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7194/6...a92839ff_b.jpg Google Earth

"This is a 1920's era railroad hotel. Takes long-term weekly renters, like SS recipients, etc. I stayed here a year or two back when. What can I say about skid row? Anyway, a lota old timers. Original architecture hardly visible. They shoot the occasional scene in here. The neighborhood is always part of some cop show shoot. But the place is OK if your willing to wait out the application process..."

"I believe outa all the hotels in skid row this is the most comfortable one. I also think it's has a nice view. Evelyn"

"The place sucks and cockroach infested!"

http://www.hotelhristina.com/wp-cont...20downtown.jpghttp://www.hotelhristina.com/wp-cont...20downtown.jpg

http://you-are-here.com/downtown/baltimore.jpghttp://you-are-here.com/downtown/baltimore.jpg

http://www.fadingad.com/blog/califor..._baltimore.jpghttp://www.fadingad.com/blog/califor..._baltimore.jpg


A slightly improved version:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA0MlgxNj...S3c2Q/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA0MlgxNj...S3c2Q/$_57.JPG



and


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NlgxNj...gH!~~60_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NlgxNj...gH!~~60_57.JPG

Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 3:17 AM

Chesters 1460 Colorado Blvd., Eaglerock


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYwWDEwMj...SqlVs/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjYwWDEwMj...SqlVs/$_57.JPG

Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 3:30 AM

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE0NlgxNj...83g~~60_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE0NlgxNj...83g~~60_57.JPG

Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 3:49 AM

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMD...SsvaO/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMD...SsvaO/$_57.JPG




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Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 3:53 AM

unk location. Dos Chevys

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTI1WDgwMA...BSqdpB/$_3.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTI1WDgwMA...BSqdpB/$_3.JPG


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FredH Jan 23, 2014 5:30 AM

1966 - Civic Center from the Court House roof. From left to right: new Hall of Records, District Court, old Hall of Records,
City Hall, Law Building, State Building. Law Building with Lombardi's Restaurant located at 141 North Broadway.

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/202/bvee.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...d/7676/rec/151

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/36...0/547/r0lw.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...d/7676/rec/151

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/11...0/541/8rl8.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...d/7676/rec/151

Colonel Mustard Jan 23, 2014 9:41 AM

The former Cedars of Lebanon Hospital, located at 4833 Fountain in the Hollywood/Los Feliz area. Photos dates from 1939.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/13/8tzy.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/546/ieoz.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/855/q2ht.jpg
All images from USCDL

These days, Cedars-Sinai has moved to the Beverly Hills Adjacent area, and a new organization now inhabits their old digs...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/35/dtyz.png
GSV

Personally, I would call this a downgrade.

When I was looking for the "now" image, I also discovered this pretty little deco building next door, at the corner of Fountain and Catalina, and I was wondering if someone smarter than me might be able to dig up a little history on it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/43/uoq7.png
GSV

Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 2:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6402567)
originally posted by sopas_ej, Tam O'Shanter Inn on los Felix Blvd., circa 1920s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/542/mjvm.jpg




I just found a couple more images of the Tam O'Shanter.

-sepia postcard from 1938.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/59/k7gs.jpg
ebay



..and this fantastic image from the 1950s/60s that I found earlier tonight on ebay.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/198/fo08.jpg
They were still using that stylized lightning bolt on this 1950s era sign. (compare to the 1934 sign)

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Another iteration. Aka Montgomery's Chanticleer Inn

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAzOVgxNj...S4EYc/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAzOVgxNj...S4EYc/$_57.JPG

Chuckaluck Jan 23, 2014 2:18 PM

Larchmont Blvd. and Sixth St. (Source indicates L and Third St.) (Distortions as found)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA4MFgxNj...S3dtw/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA4MFgxNj...S3dtw/$_57.JPG


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