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GaylordWilshire Aug 19, 2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6237559)
In the distance there is a turret visible on a hill. Can anyone tell me what the heck that is? (it resembles the 'magic castle' in Hollywood)

The seller says this is the front lawn of Abraham Lincoln High School circa 1960s
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9320/hdd0.jpg
ebay
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That's the Joseph Mesmer house, once at 3500 Manitou Street. A nursing home is now on its hill.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAPL


Just found this shot of the Mesmer house on Kansas Sebastian's photostream:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520PM.bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2013 1:07 AM

-thanks so much GW!

Moxie Aug 20, 2013 1:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6237515)
Somewhere along the top (and sometimes along the bottom, too) there should be an icon of a clock with an arrow wrapped around it. Hit that and a time slider should appear with older aerials. It should also be listed in the 'View' menu as Historical Imagery.

There is also www.historicaerials.com which can have a lot of different years depending on location, although in this case they had nothing between 1980 and 2003. They have watermarks across the images but they're still helpful if you're looking for something. There is a dissolve function there that lets you fade between any two sets of images with a slider bar.

Sweet! Thanks so much! :)

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2013 1:46 AM

I found these fascinating faded/magenta photographs on ebay a month or so ago.
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/2980/rtx3.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img268/7968/hk5t.jpg



http://imageshack.us/a/img196/9574/69ao.jpg



http://imageshack.us/a/img801/5415/uze1.jpg




http://imageshack.us/a/img708/2822/a5bd.jpg



After studying these negs. I believe the photographer was perched on the top of this tower (circled in red) in the late 1950s or early 60s.
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/5328/ox84.jpg
google earth

-the monolithic Equitable Building is located on the old Chapman Hotel site.
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just for fun. -the Chapman Hotel & Bungalows in this earlier aerial
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5863/bu6v.jpg
posted earlier/lapl

CityBoyDoug Aug 20, 2013 4:27 AM

1940s noirish
 
Elizabeth Short with a soldier friend

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...sd2e63789.jpeg
image: found on old CD

Otis Criblecoblis Aug 20, 2013 5:22 AM

Newbie warning!
 
Hello all! I came here in search of a good look at the Old Hall of Records and found myself immediately hooked. From then until now, I've been going through the entire thread, chasing the end page from 792 to 810. What a magnificent ride! You all have taught this longtime Angeleno a great deal about his city. I hope to be able to make my own modest contributions as we go along from here.

I have a partial answer to a pictorial question posed by Ethereal Reality back around page 804:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6231614)
mystery slide

Wilshire fence/no date
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/677/oq2t.jpg
ebay

Anyone want to wager a guess?
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I can tell you that the repeated blue "Wilshire" element was the logo for Wilshire gas stations, and in fact these look as if they were taken directly from the actual gas station signs. Wilshire gas stations were very common up in Northern California, but fairly rare here, as I recall. The company was bought out by Gulf in the mid-Sixties.

[edit] The previous information was from memory, and is not quite accurate. Gulf completed its purchase of Wilshire Oil Company of California, an LA-based firm founded in 1914 by George and Victor Machris, by 1960, but apparently continued to operate it under the Wilshire name until 1966.

ProphetM Aug 20, 2013 8:00 AM

Welcome to the thread, Otis, and thanks for an informative first post!

Flyingwedge Aug 20, 2013 8:29 AM

More Lincoln High
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6237559)
In the distance there is a turret visible on a hill. Can anyone tell me what that is? (it resembles the 'magic castle' in Hollywood)

The seller says this is the front lawn of Abraham Lincoln High School circa 1960s
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9320/hdd0.jpg
ebay
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Abraham Lincoln High School is 100 years old in 2013!

An undated but early view:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb118551a.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026080.jpg

Lincoln's principal from 1916-1945 was Dr. Ethel Percy Andrus (1884-1967). She was California's first female high school principal and went on to found the National Retired Teachers Association in 1947 and AARP in 1958. [Info from: http://lhsaatigers.org/School_News.html and http://assets.aarp.org/www.aarp.org_...andrus_bio.pdf]

This photo of Lincoln High is dated c. 1928, but is apparently earlier. The tall building in the rear was the auditorium. (The home next to the school is the former Woolwine house. More on that at http://oldhomesoflosangeles.blogspot...-broadway.html):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6aa08a92.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/3131/rec/5

Woolwine home gone. Was there a patio on the roof of the main building?:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5d27b280.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026078.jpg

Lincoln High from southeast, 1927:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d7ff19c.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026079.jpg

September 17, 1929:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psff6cff3d.jpg
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/15907/rec/4

Buildings on campus were closed after being damaged in the 1933 Long Beach Earthquake; this photo is dated 1934. From LAPL: "The school was closed to students on November 2, 1934, after engineers reported many of the buildings were in danger of sliding down the hill toward North Broadway because of shifting ground of the hill. The engineers and geologists reported three of the buildings are in danger of collapsing down the hill upon other structures. The auditorium, music and library buildings will be torn down. The English building has been cracked from the weight of holding up the library with braced steel and concrete supports. The English, administration, and gymnasium buildings will be repaired. Other buildings will be used temporarily."
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01bb2b90.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041338.jpg

Moving tents onto campus, October 30, 1934:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8c14d9e9.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041321.jpg

Also October 30, 1934. From LAPL: "A newly arisen "tent village" is shown on the grounds of Lincoln High School on North Broadway where three buildings have been condemned and three others closed because of earth slippage beneath the hill on which the school is built. Students are attending classes in the tents and buildings which are not in danger. The auditorium, music and library buildings are to be razed, and the English, administration and boys' gymnasium buildings will remain closed until the other structures, which tower over and threaten them, are removed." The Mae West flick advertised on the billboard is Belle of the Nineties:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c44c9d9.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041322.jpg

The new Albert C. Martin-designed campus opened across the street in 1937; this view is c. 1940:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd15bac10.jpg
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou.../id/7698/rec/2

Still with us today:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps575ccc64.jpg
GSV June 2012

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2013 2:19 PM

:previous: -excellent post FlyingWedge!
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Thank you for the information on the Wilshire gas stations Otis.
That image of the fence had me stumped for quite some time.

Intrigued, I googled your name Otis Criblecoblis and images of W.C. Fields popped up.
Is this a character he played in one of his films?

Anyway, welcome to noirish Los Angeles!
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ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2013 3:37 PM

I'm not sure if we've seen this particular accident before.

1960
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/9325/hmtu.jpg
old cd of mine/probably from ebay
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Otis Criblecoblis Aug 20, 2013 3:44 PM

Quote:

Thank you for the information on the Wilshire gas stations Otis.
That image of the fence had me stumped for quite some time.

Intrigued, I googled your name Otis Criblecoblis and images of W.C. Fields popped up.
Is this a character he played in one of his films?

Anyway, welcome to noirish Los Angeles!
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Thanks, ethereal_reality, and I'm happy to be of service. Yes, "Otis Criblecoblis" was one of W.C. Fields' many pseudonyms, used for the writing credit in Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (which by the way uses the Hyperion Bridge and environs to great effect at the end).

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2013 4:48 PM

This could be a job for Lorendoc and 3940dxer.

The ruins of the Spider Pool, somewhere in the Hollywood Hills.
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/6753/u835.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/8186/vo6w.jpg
http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/1847/1vr3.jpg
http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php


This is a must read for anyone interested in noirish Los Angeles.
Don't skim through the article looking for the address...it's never given.
http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php




-sunlit path leading to the ruins.
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/1918/powt.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php



http://imageshack.us/a/img443/2474/854r.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php



A wasp in the spider's web. (how cool is that!)
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/6980/1dhn.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php




-one last haunting image.
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/473/cfwl.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php


This article was brought to my attention by a fellow forum member. He was leery of posting about it.
He worried about the mystery site being found out and subsequently covered in graffiti and trash.
I certainly saw his point. We discussed it, and decided to go ahead and do a post since the exact location is never given.
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Andys Aug 20, 2013 5:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6236919)
Ah, identifying filming locations for the show? I'm doing that for NCIS. I'm getting better at finding places! If you have the list of locations for this episode I can help search the surrounding areas. Also, where were the main studio sets?

I have never watched NCIS, but a lot of filming was done at the building where I've been working for the last 10 years. My understanding is, that this building was used as the NCIS headquarters for many episodes. This is a biomedical campus, and is used heavily for filming due to its single controlled access location in Santa Clarita. Last major film shot at this location that I'm aware of was "Something About Dave" starring Sandra Bullock. Television filming is a regular occurrence here. Let me know if you have any questions.

Andys

ethereal_reality Aug 20, 2013 5:20 PM

The Du Barry Apartments sign lit up.
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1281/o4fm.jpg
ebay




http://imageshack.us/a/img19/1378/1mud.jpg
google earth






http://imageshack.us/a/img12/3320/qlpj.jpg
GSV


As you might expect from looking at the architecture, the 7th floor apartments have impressive vaulted ceilings.

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/5592/ij1n.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4033151...7624087493694/

http://imageshack.us/a/img43/3876/zpgf.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4033151...7624087493694/


studio apartment, 7th floor
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9904/6hvt.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4033151...7624087493694/
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Blaster Aug 20, 2013 9:31 PM

The ruins of the Spider Pool, somewhere in the Hollywood Hills.
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/6753/u835.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php

I'll bet Norma Desmond used to attend parties here.

ProphetM Aug 20, 2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6238427)
This could be a job for Lorendoc and 3940dxer.

The ruins of the Spider Pool, somewhere in the Hollywood Hills.
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/6753/u835.jpg
Jacy Young at http://laist.com/2008/04/19/every_city_has.php

....

This article was brought to my attention by a fellow forum member. He was leery of posting about it.
He worried about the mystery site being found out and subsequently covered in graffiti and trash.
I certainly saw his point. We discussed it, and decided to go ahead and do a post since the exact location is never given.
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Hmm, that wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520PM.bmp.jpg
Google Maps

GaylordWilshire Aug 21, 2013 12:40 AM

:previous:

Prophet is right, not too hard to find... Here's a Times article near the end. To preserve the mystery, I've redacted the address and other clues....


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W...odviewpool.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...rmotttext1.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...t2redacted.jpg


Los Angeles Times July 12, 1962

How great is the entrance up through a manhole into the living room?

Albany NY Aug 21, 2013 1:41 AM

Magenta is the new black
 
Originally posted by ethereal reality

Great shots, just an attempt at color-correcting to see details in a slightlymore natural light.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/28/zprp.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/15/d6q5.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/89/8e70.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/23/qebz.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/843/26n4.jpg all photos from eBay

fhammon Aug 21, 2013 2:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6239034)
Hmm, that wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be.

Brilliant, ProphetM!
Good work.
Only do us this one favor: Should you go there, please don't tag it with your spray can, just this once.

CityBoyDoug Aug 21, 2013 3:11 AM

Elizabeth Short case....
 
Dr. George Hodel was arrested for incest and child molestation in 1949--....booking photo.
Incidentally, Dr. Hodel is considered by many to be the prime suspect in the Elizabeth Short murder case....better known as the "The Black Dahlia" which was the nickname given to Elizabeth Short (July 29, 1924 – c. January 15, 1947).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psb9e9066e.jpg

Dr. George Hodel's booking photo taken at Hall of Justice Justice on 10.6.1949

Excerpt from Commander Tom Vetter's television interview, September 2, 2004: "I was a detective then in 1962 and I was driving Undersheriff Jimmy Downy and he was going to lunch with then Chief of Detectives, Gordy Bowers and they were good friends. As we were driving along somehow the Black Dahlia murder came up in their conversation. And I heard Jimmy say that, "Oh that [Black Dahlia case] had been solved, but it will never come out, because it was some doctor they all knew out in Hollywood."


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