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ethereal_reality Jun 15, 2013 4:21 AM

That melting cake in MacArthur Park with it's green icing flowing down.....finally explained.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,6353317.story
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JScott Jun 15, 2013 5:47 AM

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ethereal_reality Jun 15, 2013 3:19 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img407/9059/zpy4.jpg
George Mann

Nile Hight at https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles places this photograph in the vicinity of Sunset & Sherbourne Drive.
(I checked two city directories to no avail)


http://imageshack.us/a/img585/4378/fn11.jpg
gsv
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ethereal_reality Jun 15, 2013 3:52 PM

I found this 1959 slide of Hollywood and Vine on ebay yesterday.

http://imageshack.us/a/img541/1773/7iwe.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-35m...81154407788%26
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Chuckaluck Jun 15, 2013 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6165389)
That melting cake in MacArthur Park with it's green icing flowing down.....finally explained.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,6353317.story
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Well before the baking of a cake?


1888
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1890
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...82D61PUKR5.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...82D61PUKR5.jpg


1895

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...SXEBJSR8JC.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...SXEBJSR8JC.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GTB286333N.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GTB286333N.jpg

Flyingwedge Jun 15, 2013 8:03 PM

Los Angeles at night, 1911
 
Looking south on Main Street from 5th Street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps96ac980e.jpg
Huntington Digital Library -- http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/12279/rec/2

Looking east on 3rd Street from above the tunnel next to Angels Flight:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps42373cb9.jpg
Huntington Digital Library -- http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/12405/rec/1

Godzilla Jun 15, 2013 8:51 PM

'40s
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...H6XIIY1AJ3.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...H6XIIY1AJ3.jpg



'56
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...QKHQM9UIJQ.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...QKHQM9UIJQ.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YTE6XYCEV1.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YTE6XYCEV1.jpg

Godzilla Jun 15, 2013 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5343718)
The beautiful Bell & Howell building at 716 N. La Brea Ave.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/183...llbuilding.jpg
lapl


As it appears today.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/922...l716nlabre.jpg
google street views


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RDTE49PJ9U.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RDTE49PJ9U.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...2YHKS9F4FS.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...2YHKS9F4FS.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...L47LHGVH1L.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...L47LHGVH1L.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...7QLC8JYQ95.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...7QLC8JYQ95.jpg

CityBoyDoug Jun 16, 2013 1:55 AM

Don't mess with Mickey
 
Little tough guy Los Angeles gangsterette Mickey Cohen is seen here after he started a kerfuffle with federal narcotics officers. This dust-up landed him in jail in 1958.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps71518b2b.jpg
USC collection

CityBoyDoug Jun 16, 2013 2:12 AM

Room 105
 
Today, it's the Highland Gardens Hotel. Opened in the mid–1950s as the Landmark Hotel, it was designed as a place primarily for entertainers. It's a modest, low key, rooms–built–around–the–pool sort of hangout where you can still find the occasional celebrity.

It was here in 1970 that Janis Joplin cooked up her final batch of heroin.

A lot of noir in LA



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps38182791.jpg
LAT

CityBoyDoug Jun 16, 2013 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6165620)
I found this 1959 slide of Hollywood and Vine on ebay yesterday.


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;););) Great noirish twilight scene.!

belmont bob Jun 16, 2013 4:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6165975)
Little tough guy Los Angeles gangsterette Mickey Cohen is seen here after he started a kerfuffle with federal narcotics officers. This dust-up landed him in jail in 1958.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps71518b2b.jpg
USC collection

Was he really that little or did the Sheriff’s Department deliberately pick the two tallest deputies on the force just to humiliate him?

belmont bob Jun 16, 2013 4:30 AM

Father's Day
 
For all of you who are fathers ...hope your day is full of noir.....:cheers:

CityBoyDoug Jun 16, 2013 4:34 PM

Five foot five....man alive!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6166056)
Was he really that little or did the Sheriff’s Department deliberately pick the two tallest deputies on the force just to humiliate him?

I had the same question myself, Bob.

Mickey Cohen was 5'-5". The average male stature is 5'-8". I do like his delightfully defiant look in this picture.[left]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd7988741.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps1ea7423d.jpg

This is Mickey and his bullet-proof Cadillac. Note the two inch thick glass in door windows. This car is now in a museum in New Zealand.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps3b596473.jpg
LAPL

Ref: wiki bio.

Wig-Wag Jun 17, 2013 5:52 AM

Anticipating the Gold Line Route.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 6163676)
It's moving, Tovangar. This beautiful spanish type wall seems to be the last thing that remains of old Aliso Street. At least on its north side. Maybe the like-brand-new Self Storage that you noticed on a previous post remains from the south side but I'm not sure it was the Aliso sidewalk below its north windows.

The current Aliso Street is obviously the old Commercial Street west of Alameda. I guess they thought keeping the popular name Aliso alive that way.

AlvaroLegido,

Your comment above about the wall at the end of LA Union station being the last thing that remains of old Aliso Street sparked a discussion between myself and a friend, as we both switched passenger trains at LAUPT in the mid 1960's.

We came to the conclusion that the present wall is not the original wall, but rather a new wall built "in the style of" the original. If you carefully examine and compare the details of the wall in the black and white photos of the locomotive overun of the bumper post with the Google street level view just below them, you will note that the arches in the original at 90 degrees while those in the new wall are are chamfered. The vertical supports are altogether different from the original and a horizontal relief has been added.

Next, check out the first two photos on the top of page 4, on this site: In it's original configuration the stub end of the tracks were perpendicular to Aliso St., and parallel to Alameda St. That is not the case today as can be seen on a Google satellite view. The end of the station has been trimmed on a bias to accommodate the El Monte Busway.

Check it out and let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Jack

tovangar2 Jun 17, 2013 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6166818)
AlvaroLegido,

Your comment above about the wall at the end of LA Union station being the last thing that remains of old Aliso Street sparked a discussion between myself and a friend, as we both switched passenger trains at LAUPT in the mid 1960's.

We came to the conclusion that the present wall is not the original wall, but rather a new wall built "in the style of" the original. If you carefully examine and compare the details of the wall in the black and white photos of the locomotive overun of the bumper post with the Google street level view just below them, you will note that the arches in the original at 90 degrees while those in the new wall are are chamfered. The vertical supports are altogether different from the original and a horizontal relief has been added.

Next, check out the first two photos on the top of page 4, on this site: In it's original configuration the stub end of the tracks were perpendicular to Aliso St., and parallel to Alameda St. That is not the case today as can be seen on a Google satellite view. The end of the station has been trimmed on a bias to accommodate the El Monte Busway.

Check it out and let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Jack

Thank you so much. Posts like yours are why I love this site! You've neatly answered my "am I missing something?" query: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15097

I just didn't get it before. The damn (probably original) lamp posts on top of the reproduction wall fooled me. I just couldn't get past them. The north side of Aliso Street was wiped out by the busway/freeway, that's where the extra width came from. The south side property line is still there.

I could never figure out why Nathan Masters and others thought the site of El Aliso was under the freeway, when the Maier Brewery location is actually and obviously undisturbed (for now anyway).

OMG, I'm such a dolt. But I'm glad now I reposted the photo of the Super Chief accident from '48. That further bit of doltishness on my part led to my question being answered thanks to you.

AlvaroLegido Jun 17, 2013 7:26 PM

Aliso Street
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6166818)
AlvaroLegido,

Your comment above about the wall at the end of LA Union station being the last thing that remains of old Aliso Street sparked a discussion between myself and a friend, as we both switched passenger trains at LAUPT in the mid 1960's.

We came to the conclusion that the present wall is not the original wall, but rather a new wall built "in the style of" the original. If you carefully examine and compare the details of the wall in the black and white photos of the locomotive overun of the bumper post with the Google street level view just below them, you will note that the arches in the original at 90 degrees while those in the new wall are are chamfered. The vertical supports are altogether different from the original and a horizontal relief has been added.

Next, check out the first two photos on the top of page 4, on this site: In it's original configuration the stub end of the tracks were perpendicular to Aliso St., and parallel to Alameda St. That is not the case today as can be seen on a Google satellite view. The end of the station has been trimmed on a bias to accommodate the El Monte Busway.

Check it out and let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Jack

Wig-Wag, this is what I think...
First, like tovangar, I like specially posts like yours. Every evening I'm improving my brains with THE Thread (which is somewhat slowing down these days...)
Well, as Aliso Street is my favorite street (the angled profile view from a lower level on the Civic Center was the most beautiful Downtown, the street was amazingly broad, it had a very popular mood and Lyon Street - starting at an angle - is, like Weller Street, so appealing), I take a close look at every feature on the photos. So, I had noticed that the original wall was perpendicular to Alameda while the new isn't and had then a beginning of a suspicion. But as I am French, I found too complicated to bring this issue in English.
Your friend and you nailed it !

Alvaro (not Alvarado...)

tovangar2 Jun 17, 2013 9:54 PM

Excuse the double post pls

tovangar2 Jun 17, 2013 9:55 PM

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ethereal_reality Jun 17, 2013 9:58 PM

Never before seen (at least on this thread) images of Coulter's streamline-moderne department store on Wilshire.

found in this box of negs.
http://imageshack.us/a/img32/8756/q1to.jpg
ebay





http://imageshack.us/a/img839/2716/h3xm.jpg




a view of wilshire blvd. with Coulter's entrance
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/9219/3t7c.jpg




I think everyone owned those wooden magazine stands.
http://imageshack.us/a/img194/3621/9qtb.jpg






http://imageshack.us/a/img545/3289/a0iu.jpg


-more to come after I reverse the negatives.
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