Hate to say it, but when they tore "old" Bunker Hill down, it was time for it to go.

A couple interesting photos from the L.A. Times archives:

Rioting in Watts, August 13, 1965.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/...c84ae739_b.jpgLos Angeles Times

A stretch of 103rd Street, dubbed Charcoal Alley

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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/...f7127e16_b.jpgLos Angeles Times

Rioting in East Los Angeles, August 29, 1970
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Does anyone know the cause of the rioting in 1970?
There was no indication from the captions.

That was a demonstration in support of the Chicano Moratorium Against the War. It's been commemorated every year since. The "rioting" was in response to an unprovoked attack by the LAPD on peaceful demonstrators. In the photo, a few men step forward to fight back. Ruben Salazar, Lyn Ward and Angel Diaz died that day through the actions of the police and Sheriff's Deputies.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...10928%2BAM.jpg

More info here: http://sandiegofreepress.org/2013/08...3-years-later/
Ruben F Salazar Park: https://www.laconservancy.org/locati...f-salazar-park

Welcome to 'noirish Los Angeles' BarSnake....glad you found the thread. Hope to hear from you again.

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From "History and the Hill: Los Angeles Loses a Landmark" by L. Mildred Harris in 'The Historical Society of Southern California Quarterly', Vol. 32, No. 2 (June 1950)


The landmark in question is Fort Moore Hill.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/pxj732.png
https://archive.org/details/LosAngel...andmark2Merged





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/ey4S4g.png
https://archive.org/details/LosAngel...andmark2Merged





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/eAqEhJ.png
https://archive.org/details/LosAngel...andmark2Merged





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/GFcWLw.png
https://archive.org/details/LosAngel...andmark2Merged



excerpt-
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...910/I661mO.png
https://archive.org/details/LosAngel...andmark2Merged

"a fleet of trucks dumping 'HISTORY' into a ravine in Elysian Park." Hmmm....time to get a small shovel and start digging.
-but where exactly in Elysian Park (anyone know?)


To read the complete article go to
https://archive.org/details/LosAngel...andmark2Merged

The Occidental College has been mentioned a few times on NLA, but I don't think we've seen a picture of the Highland Park buildings before. The postmark on this card dates it at 1907.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alCollege1.jpg
eBay

The postcard seems to be a colorized version of the USC image below. The caption says "Highland Park Campus of Occidental College showing the Stimson Library, the Hall of Letters, and the Academy Building".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Only the middle building (the Hall of (Arts and) Letters) survives. At some point it was converted into apartments, losing a floor in the process. Today, it's almost completely surrounded by other buildings, and difficult to see from the road.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alCollege3.jpg
Google Maps

You can read more about the college's history, including clattering trains interrupting classes, at kcet.org.

:previous: I had no idea that the former 'Hall of Arts & Letters' still survives. -good find HossC.
but what a shame to have lost the other two. (among others)

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The opening scene from Chaplin's 'The Kid' was filmed here. The apartments grew around the building over time.

:previous: Now that's a neat bit of trivia. thx



-Here's an interesting photograph I just came across a few minutes ago on ebay.

LAFD Engine Co. 22

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/IK0Dlc.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAFD-LOS-ANG...item487942ec96


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/OFP46H.jpg

-sounds like the firemen gave the neighborhood kids rides. :)

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The seller also has this LAFD photo.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/PSvb6n.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Historical-M...kw=los+angeles

-note the BUDGET __________ store behind. I wonder where this was taken?

The opening scene from Chaplin's 'The Kid' was shot at the old Oxy building on Avenue 50, near Figueroa.

Thanks Nick for the info!
Here is the building from the scene...with the added prop sign.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pssi8zcbjp.jpg
twitter

Both new and old Station 22 seen in the photo still stand. The newer house which closed in 1980, now houses the local Calif. Conservation Corps

A good area to start looking for the location of Engine 30's photo, would be near the Coca Cola Building on S. Central. Engine 30 was one of two segregated engine companies in the LAFD. Station closed in 1980.

Their former station is now the African American Firefighters Museum at 1401 South Central. The museum opened their doors in 1997.

http://www.aaffmuseum.org/

Occidental College + Chaplin's "The Kid" (1921)
 

Thank you so much nickdahammer. When anyone talks about filming locations, they have my full attention.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...45240%2BPM.jpg
youtube

Charlie Chaplin's "The Kid" (1921)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAUFUv1k9Zw

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...51223%2BPM.jpg
gsv (Ave 51)

The properties on either side of the route of the old walkway to the Hall of Arts and Letters have low retaining walls faced in small river rocks.

I bet I can guess where they got them.

PS LOL, CityBoyDoug, you beat me to it! I've got to learn to put a post together faster :-(

HossC, I had noticed the Bahia in Anaheim as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/HLLSj4.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/jgHFIj.jpg


I was pleasantly surprised that the sign was still intact....but I was aghast when I saw that it was renamed 'The Covered Wagon'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/DXWPMW.png
GSV

-and nothing says 'pioneer days / covered wagon' as an Italian restaurant named Giovanni's.



Then I zoomed to the sign to see what had happened to the mid-century Tiki God.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/97YwKa.png
GSV / detail

:previous:...this f*cked up mess with super glue that apparently hadn't worked.

It's just all so bizarre.

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The messed up Bahia / Covered Wagon sign made me think of this Jolly Jug sign in El Monte.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/Vwwj4f.png
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/88735055131387240/



-here are some humorous comments about the enigmatic image on top.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/sE7oOt.png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70839390@N00/6894121625/

"What the hell is that thing?" lol

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'The Kid' was released in 1921. A quick look at the 1921 Baist map shows that the old Occidental College Hall of Letters had become the Pacific Chiropractic College. The inset is from the 1921 CD - the only directory in which it appears. It looks like the 1898 Academy Building across the railroad tracks to the north had already been demolished. Note that North Figueroa was known as Pasadena Avenue at the time.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alCollege4.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com/LAPL

I found the following pictures and text in a book called 'Highland Park' by Charles J Fisher. I like the front view of the Charles M Stimson Library. The chiropractic college gets a mention in the second caption.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alCollege5.jpg
books.google.com

Here are two Los Angeles High School graduates. I'm guessing the one on the left is attending Occidental, and the one on the right, Polytechnic.

1910s?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/CfzRA2.jpg
ebay


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The Bungalow Motel of Hollywood at 2010 North Highland Avenue. The date of issue is listed as 1930-1945, but as I can't find it in the 1942 CD, I tending towards the later end of that range.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...galowMotel.jpg
Boston Public Library on Flickr

It was soon renamed the Bowl Motel of Hollywood. Under that name it appears in the City Directories from 1956 to 1973.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BowlMotel1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BowlMotel2.jpg
eBay

Today the site is occupied by the BLVD Hotel & Suites Hollywood.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ABLVDHotel.jpg
Google Maps

:previous: What's the building with the turret to it's right?

You can't see it at all from street level.


front view from Highland
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...631/3pLO9H.png
GSV
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below: Here's a better view of it from Las Palmas (luckily, Las Palmas is a higher elevation than Highland)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/ZIZm2y.png
GSV

-look at that little 'room' on the right with the door cracked opened.
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:previous:

That's the 1926 Roman Gardens at 2000 North Highland Avenue. They were mentioned in mdiederi's post about the Lost French Village of Hollywood because they had the same architects. BifRayRock also posted some black and white images in post #15726.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...manGardens.jpg
Michael Locke on Flickr

:previous: That's an excellent photograph. I like how the building has aged.
I looked at the 1930s black & white photos BRR had posted earlier, and I prefer how it looks now.
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"To Move 10,000-Ton Los Angeles Building, ca. 1931"

"Described by engineers as the largest moving job ever undertaken west of the Mississippi,
work was under way on the moving of the 5-story, 10,000-ton Brunswig Building in
Los Angeles to make way for the extension of Spring Street as part of the civic center
plan.

To avoid cutting through the building for the extension, the structure will be given a
quarter turn and moved back, so the side of the structure will become the front
facing the New Spring Street. The structure will be lifted on 1,200 jacks and turned
on 2000 steel rollers to its new position.

This photograph shows the north side of the building which will be turned around."
(ACME) 4/1/31

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/OYdnfR.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Brunswi...item3f460c5c75
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below: This was posted by GaylordWilshire back in 2012.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/mV5fHG.png
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8033
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Since we're in the neighborhood, here's a lurvely recent photo of Lake Hollywood:

https://36.media.tumblr.com/5a0fd908...rtso1_1280.jpg

[source: Twitter]

I don't believe we've seen this photograph of 512 S Broadway in 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/1xUktf.jpg
ebay

That's the Roxie Theater to its right.





Here's 512 S. Broadway today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/c4mAkk.png
GSV

I just came across this amazing photograph on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Real...item487934d810

Harness Shop plus Undertaker/Embalmer, Los Angeles, 1870s? 1880s?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/CXlNCq.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Real...item487934d810




below: Here it is larger, so it's easier to see the clues.

I am still trying to read the proprietor's name in that arched area above Shoes, Harness Repairing & Undertaker/Embalmer.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/IedzD5.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Real...item487934d810

-note the child sitting in front of the whips.
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:previous: F. H. Mason

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...10832%2BPM.jpg

:previous: -thanks T2.






http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/IK0Dlc.jpg

the same view today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/K5tD5W.png


Here's the Cal. Conservation Corps with the older Engine Co. 22 building in the distance.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/gOW0DS.png
GSV



The bungalow in-between the two buildings is still there as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/uBcCs3.png






I should say, "are still there", because there are actually four of them!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/MdFd4U.png

:previous: very colorful!



Here's an aerial.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/RQQHbH.png
google_earth

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e-r, if you have a subscription to newspapers.com, it looks like you could maybe get the address for F.H. Mason, harness-maker & undertaker. The snippet below is from the 6/20/03 Covina Argus :


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...23349%2BPM.jpg
google search

While sitting around this Saturday afternoon, KCET televised Ralph Story's "Things Than Aren't Here Anymore." It reminded me that I own the VHS of this program; it's still fun to watch nevertheless.

Andys

Here's the information from newspapers.com. There's no address, but it does say that Mr Mason had the largest harness business in the San Gabriel Valley.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAFHMason.jpg
newspapers.com

:previous: Thank you Hoss

:previous: HossC and tovanger2. :)

Since I mentioned it here recently, I found the reminiscence of the Hollywood Canteen I was looking for. As I couldn't find it on NLA, I finally had to realize I was mistaken and went looking elsewhere, where I located it. It's worth a read. (And I added a few photographs.)

It's this wonderful perspective, the view of a 12 year old boy, from the memory of an 80 year old named Jerrold Foutz who has a blog writing reminiscences and such for his family. In one segment he talks about the history of the canteen and then writes:



Jerrold's blog:
http://www.morningtalks.com/hollwood-canteen#more-617
All photos from THE HOLLYWOOD CANTEEN by Mitchell and Torrence.

:previous:

Good story, Martin Pal. I thought the tale might have been hidden on NLA in a newspaper clipping or something similar. I'm glad I wasn't going mad when I couldn't find it ;).


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Here's the interior of the Coliseum Bar & Saloon at 221 W 4th Street. The seller dates it at 1910. This date is corroborated by the 1906, 1909 and 1911 CDs which list Harry G Brown, a resident of West Hollywood, as proprietor/manager. The 1909 CD also lists John H Kaschub of 516 W 1st Street as a bartender at the Coliseum Bar. I wonder if he's one of the men in the picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...oliseumBar.jpg
eBay

Victory Workers!" Bullock's billboard, 1941
 

I found this image on the Duke University Library site. Interestingly, it's dated 1941, before the US entered WWII. (Unless of course the billboard appeared right at the end of the year, after the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7th. Either that, or the date is inaccurate.)

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...board-1941.jpg

This seller has several streetcar photos, all conveniently labeled with their locations. Here's streetcar 1380 at Washington and Rimpau in the 1940s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tonRimpau1.jpg
eBay

I was pleased to see that the old Bank of America building at 4801 W Washington Boulevard is still standing. A post on the Art Deco Society of Los Angeles' website says:

The front of the building features simple lines and applied arches that look like midcentury modern, but walk around the corner, and wow! A perfectly gorgeous facade by S. Charles Lee, possibly the most celebrated theatre architect in California.

It was built in 1930 for Trabue Pittman Corporation, and the Los Angeles Times noted that space in the building had been leased to "the F.W. Woolworth Company, International Provision Company, a drug store and two shops."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tonRimpau2.jpg
GSV

Found that director Joseph Mankiewicz was the most notable name of an occupant -- then there was the tiny newspaper advert I came across while sorting clippings at OneArchives months ago - It was for a show of Rae Bourbon performing at these Roman Gardens post prohibition's end.

This is out of season, but an interesting photo I don't recall seeing on NLA before.

Christmas on Hollywood Blvd. 1930

https://vickielester.files.wordpress...holly-xmas.jpgVickie Lester Blog

From Marchessault
 

Thanks E_R. I could never get a precise idea of that section of Fort Hill behind the Plaza church until now !
There were larger photos taken from behind Alameda Street. Now we are coming closer : from the Plaza at Marchessault or Sunset (names already discussed by Tovangar I remember).
The semi-circular building draw my attention several years before the birth of the thread seeing it in « Out of the Past ». Robert Mitchum in his car passes by. I didn't know it was the deep center of Los Angeles and couldn't imagine how much I would know years later by NLA.

This Rae Bourbon?

-the female impersonator
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/v21QLk.jpg
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/...ae_bourbon.php



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/CHjz3C.png

(Formerly of the B.B.B. CELLAR CAFE, Hollywood) Have we covered this place on NLA?
-all I remember discussing is the Waldorf Cellar downtown.*

*Now that I reread this, I vaguely remember an underground bar in Hollywood that featured cross-dressers.
(but I don't remember B.B.B. as being the name)





-much later in life, he was involved in an extremely noirish incident...............MURDER!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/dEYlWt.png
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/...ae_bourbon.php


multi-colored dogs that urinated on cue? -sounds like a classy act. ;)

"the kennel owner donated the dogs to a medical research company." -for experiments? -many layers of noir to this story.

from another article.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/Jfhxcz.png
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2012/0...y-bourbon.html

So the colorful pooches were used in experiments. :( -no wonder the kennel owner was shot.
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mug shot
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/qqeRh9.png
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2012/0...y-bourbon.html


For further reading, here is an excellent essay titled "Murder in Mink" about Rae Bourbon's life, and specific details on the kennel owner's murder.
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2012/0...y-bourbon.html

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Thanks for trying to find it. I was sure it was on NLA because I thought I remembered a response to it. So thanks for helping!
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I noticed this October 1938 ad for a place called The Gay White Way.
https://ladailymirror.files.wordpres...10/image32.pngL.A.Times

This was from 1938 and I noticed that it was the same address as the Hollywood Canteen.
This is a bit of a discrepancy with the 2012 Mitchell/Torrence book, The Hollywood Canteen, in that
the book says the structure had once been a barn and then had been a series of ill-fated nightclubs,
the last one being The Red Barn, which closed its doors in 1937 and then had been vacant for five
years. So, maybe not?

There was a trial associated with the canteen. A hostess, and aspiring actress, named Florida Evans
was injured in 1942 when a serviceman coaxed her into doing the jitterbug and she was severely injured in
a fall when he failed to catch her. This pretty much ruined her career. Florida sued the canteen and the trial
was played for quite a few laughs in the press, using the "swing" jargon of the day. Florida sued for $17,500,
a not unreasonable sum after all her medical expenses. The judge did agree with Florida and ruled in her favor,
but he awarded her $8,170. The canteen appealed the ruling and the case wasn't settled until 1946 when the
California Supreme Court heard it. They agreed with the lower court ruling, but reduced her settlement to $7,000.

https://ladailymirror.files.wordpres...10/image33.pngL.A. Times

The canteen building was demolished in 1966. Los Angeles Times, December 21, 1966:

https://ladailymirror.files.wordpres...10/image35.png

We've had similar photos here of the Hollywood Canteen, but this one that Martin Turnbull recently posted on his
Garden of Allah website made me chuckle, as my mind was apparently prone to conjuring up a notion or two
about what they were doing. (The photo does read "Hollywood Canteen for Service...") Heh!

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...servicemen.png

The Hollywood Canteen was open from 7 p.m. to midnight Monday through Saturday, and on Sunday from
2 p.m. to 8 p.m. In addition to the two noticeable sailors, it appears there are two others lurking in the shadows
of the doorway.

There's a new book out (October, 2014) that I've been reading called DANCE FLOOR DEMOCRACY: The Social
Geography of Memory at the Hollywood Canteen by Sherrie Tucker. It's a fascinating read looking at the experiences
of different types of people and how their memories relate to what's become sort of an "official memory" of the canteen.
Looking at it through the lens of "differences," you might say. I thought it was quite fascinating.

:previous: very interesting. I never thought about what was located in the Hollywood Canteen building prior to the war.

That said, great couple of posts on the canteen Martin_Pal. -excellent job.
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FYI

Clifton's was all lit up Saturday night!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/31MjNH.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7831

originally posted by iboardsnow13 on the 'Los Angeles l Central City Project Rundown 5.0 thread
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rick m, brought up the B.B.B. Cellar Cafe very briefly: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10434

This is from MartinTurnbull's "Hollywood Places" site:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...22628%2BPM.jpg

http://www.martinturnbull.com/hollywood-places/

It appears to be a vacant lot now, but, as nicdahammer mentioned another filming location for Charlie Chaplin's "The Kid", the club was by EaCa Alley, which is where the Little Tramp found the baby Kid to begin with.

http://katewebb.files.wordpress.com/...is-img0481.jpghttp://katewebb.files.wordpress.com/...is-img0481.jpg



http://www.georgettebauerdorf.com/wp...anteen%201.jpghttp://www.georgettebauerdorf.com/wp...anteen%201.jpg


http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...anteen_N27.jpghttp://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...anteen_N27.jpg



http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...anteen_N30.jpghttp://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...anteen_N30.jpg

I thought I'd found a pair of ALCO delivery trucks to post about, but a quick check shows that e_r beat me to the first one in post #24010. Here's a reminder of the H R Boynton Company truck.

This is their entry from the 1911 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...HRBoynton3.jpg
LAPL

The second ALCO truck belonged to produce wholesaler the Rivers Bros. It's also dated at 1912.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...iversBros1.jpg
eBay

When I searched the CDs, I found the first appearance of the Rivers Bros in 1894 when they were at 300 Temple Street. By 1911 (the nearest CD to the photo's date) the company had moved to 1300-1312 Produce Street. They later moved again, this time to 746-748 Market Court, where they remained until their last entry in the 1929 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...iversBros2.jpg
LAPL

It looks like the sign on the truck answers the question posed by MichaelRyerson about two and a half years ago in post #8498. The sign near the Courthouse was for the same company - I'm guessing the "G" was the start of "Grocers" or "Groceries".

http://youtu.be/WLoYFvbR0XY


From the movie Hollywood Canteen. Roy Rogers sings a song with Trigger. Link to 3 minute video above.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psodmymugr.jpg

:previous: HossC, excellent job connecting the Rivers Bros. truck with the shop across from the county courthouse.

I remember the 1900 photo because I admired the ornate script used to spell Rivers Bros.
...and it looks even better on the side of the truck.
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Thx for posting the information on the B.B.B. Cellar T2. I'm going to try and dig up some photographs of the place.

Ah, VHS. Things that aren't around anymore.

Cliff's Inn, 2640 N. Figueroa Avenue, Los Angeles

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/NDkunA.jpg
old file / ebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/fZiQfw.jpg
old file / ebay


I was only able to find this one reference, ca. 1942

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/YPp3Yj.png
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...9421210.2.30.1


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/KkuKRd.png
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...9421210.2.30.1

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2640 N. Figueroa is still a bar.....Footsies.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/BWGh4d.jpg
GSV





The interior of the bar has indirect lighting that might date back to the 1940s or 50s when the place was Cliff's Inn.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/pXVYlt.jpg
http://www.shophex.com/blog/tag/footsies-bar/




Here's a contemporary black & white view from their facebook page.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/L2VYQj.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/Footsies



...lastly, there's a rather old looking 'cocktails' blade sign outside.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/ajJ9y6.jpg
http://www.partyearth.com/los-angele...k-5/dive-bars/

but I have no idea if this is from the Cliff's Inn era.
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