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ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 1:39 AM

I've never heard of a whistling buoy before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/yiym.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6583757)
I am currently reading a biography of the Westmore family of Hollywood studio make up artists - each son ran the makeup and wigs department of each of the studios (think Rothschilds but with lipstick)

Gold compact from the House of Westmore, available on ebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/egs5.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/8kms.jpg

Perhaps this is from the 'Big Suzy Collection'? ;)

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Gastorical May 21, 2014 4:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5518138)
......another year and an even LARGER kite...this time to be flown at what looks like Mines Field or perhaps another airport in the vicinity.


below: Assembling the parts.



http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...stakeapart.jpg
LAPL





....almost there.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8...stakeapart.jpg
LAPL





Viola!


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/911...antickitel.jpg
LAPL





It flies!!

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9...gem1g2lapl.jpg
LAPL

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I dont see this as being Mines Field. There were no Gasometers " large round structure in the background" in the area. This is more likely the Santa Monica Airport as there was a Southern Counties gas base and holder facility on Rose Ave just slightly South west of here.

FredH May 21, 2014 9:03 AM

[QUOTE=Sonny☼LA;6583698]New life for Teed Street in Chinatown!

A Chinatown hillside will soon be home to a vertical park within walking distance of the Alpine Recreation Center thanks to $1 million in funding that was announced Tuesday by Los Angeles County Supervisor Gloria Molina.

The acre of park land, created by chunks of existing hillside, will be located near the Chinatown Library at Ord and Yale Streets.


Molina Secures $1 million for Vertical Chinatown Park/


http://egpnews.com/wp-content/upload...k-image001.jpg
Photo: Diandra Jay


Wait a minute, wait a minute! From the description of this new park, it will be located about here:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps50ad5870.jpg
Google Maps

That would put the park on the slope right behind the Clover Trailer Park!

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb5129b12.jpg
Cry Danger, 1951 - RKO Radio Pictures


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps30755f48.jpg
Cry Danger, 1951 - RKO Radio Pictures


The Clover Trailer Park is sacred ground here at Noirish Los Angeles. I think we should send a representative to protest.

HossC May 21, 2014 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6585487)

I've never heard of a whistling buoy before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/yiym.jpg
ebay

I've never heard of one either, but that's what Google's for, right? :)

According to www.merriam-webster.com, a whistling buoy is "a buoy that makes a whistling sound due to the action of waves and usually marks a shoal or channel entrance". A longer, more technical description can be found at chestofbooks.com.

USC has a picture which looks remarkably similar to the postcard. It's titled "Close-up view of the whistling buoy off Point Fermin, San Pedro, 1890".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tlingBuoy1.jpg
USC Digital Library

The following article is from the San Francisco Call, Volume 102, Number 106, 14 September 1907. It mentions the Point Fermin whistling buoy and another at Point Vincent - I'm guessing they mean Point Vicente.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
California Digital Newspaper Collection

Four maps showing the location of the Point Fermin lighted whistling buoy can be found here.

Tourmaline May 21, 2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6585745)
I've never heard of one either, but that's what Google's for, right? :)

According to www.merriam-webster.com, a whistling buoy is "a buoy that makes a whistling sound due to the action of waves and usually marks a shoal or channel entrance". A longer, more technical description can be found at chestofbooks.com.

USC has a picture which looks remarkably similar to the postcard. It's titled "Close-up view of the whistling buoy off Point Fermin, San Pedro, 1890".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tlingBuoy1.jpg
USC Digital Library

The following article is from the San Francisco Call, Volume 102, Number 106, 14 September 1907. It mentions the Point Fermin whistling buoy and another at Point Vincent - I'm guessing they mean Point Vicente.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
California Digital Newspaper Collection

Four maps showing the location of the Point Fermin lighted whistling buoy can be found here.


The "whistle" appears to have been steam operated, suggesting that it had someone tending to it. Could the buoy have been some indirect inspiration for some other forms of navigational whistling? :no:

Especially good for splashdowns? ;)


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...E5rUuDmDNn3V1Ahttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...E5rUuDmDNn3V1A

http://media.airspacemag.com/images/..._Main_ON09.jpghttp://media.airspacemag.com/images/..._Main_ON09.jpg


http://www.trbimg.com/img-5373ae6b/t...03/580/580x455http://www.trbimg.com/img-5373ae6b/t...03/580/580x455

The capsules appear to have been constructed by McDonnell in St. Louis; however, there were plenty of SoCal connections to the project. Bendix, North American, Convair and others. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...E5rUuDmDNn3V1A

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 1:51 PM

Good job FredH, in realizing the noirish connection to the new 1 acre park.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6585734)
Wait a minute, wait a minute!
From the description of this new park, it will be located on the slope right behind the Clover Trailer Park!

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps30755f48.jpg
Cry Danger, 1951 - RKO Radio Pictures

The Clover Trailer Park is sacred ground here at Noirish Los Angeles. I think we should send a representative to protest.

FredH, at the very least they should name it Clover Park. ;)

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SHERIFFPAUL May 21, 2014 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6585444)
After years of going through vintage postcards, I finally found one for the Nirvana Apartments.

postmarked 1925 (the same year the apartment was completed)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/835/qklb.jpg
ebay

The typography is reminiscent of art nouveau....and it looks like there used to be a 'pagoda'-like entryway near the front sidewalk.
-which is missing in the modern view (below).


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/h47c.jpg
GSV




I found this newspaper clipping and pic dated May 19, 1940. (oddly, the sidewalk 'pagoda-entryway' is missing in it too)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/8b49.jpg
http://ladailymirror.com/2012/09/03/...na-apartments/



We discussed the Nirvana Apts. on NLA back in 2011.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3021

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3039

I thought there might be a few more posts but I was unable to find them.
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I walk past this place twice a week. It still looks very cool.

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 3:00 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/20qz0.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800.../842/au6tw.jpg

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 3:11 PM

Los Angeles Plaza 1933

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/fhuet.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/iw9p.jpgebay
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Thanks for digging up that information on the whistling buoy HossC. I had no idea such a thing existed.

srk1941 May 21, 2014 3:54 PM

I don't see how that postcard can be dated 1925, as that is a late 1930s-early 1940s car?

In the early 1940s, architect Reginald D. Johnson took 16mm Kodachrome footage of his project Baldwin Hills Village. It's wonderful, you can see it here:

http://vimeo.com/8568666

He contrasted the footage of the glories of Utopian living in the Village with the less glorious haphazard planning of early 40s Los Angeles. If you go to 17:34 (through around 17:41) you can see Nirvana in its Kodachrome glory... that pagoda by the street was there in the early 40s? Don't know how to reconcile that with the LA Times image...


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6585444)
After years of going through vintage postcards, I finally found one for the Nirvana Apartments.

postmarked 1925 (the same year the apartment was completed)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/835/qklb.jpg
ebay

The typography is reminiscent of art nouveau....and it looks like there used to be a 'pagoda'-like entryway near the front sidewalk.
-which is missing in the modern view (below).


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/h47c.jpg
GSV




I found this newspaper clipping and pic dated May 19, 1940. (oddly, the sidewalk 'pagoda-entryway' is missing in it too)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/8b49.jpg
http://ladailymirror.com/2012/09/03/...na-apartments/



We discussed the Nirvana Apts. on NLA back in 2011.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3021

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3039

I thought there might be a few more posts but I was unable to find them.
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Sonny☼LA May 21, 2014 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6585734)


Wait a minute, wait a minute! From the description of this new park, it will be located about here:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps50ad5870.jpg
Google Maps

That would put the park on the slope right behind the Clover Trailer Park!

The Clover Trailer Park is sacred ground here at Noirish Los Angeles. I think we should send a representative to protest.

Actually, I was thinking the new park might be half a block east at the location of the (possibly never officially built) Teed St, behind the current library. That would put it in JW Robinson's front yard. So the hallowed ground of Clover Trailer Park may be safe. You know what would be great in that spot, though? A retro trailer motel like Hicksville near Joshua Tree:
Hicksville Trailer Palace

At least that's where they're standing in the photo...seems a tight squeeze for a park but I guess that's why they're going vertical.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps3c09dfcd.jpg
-LAPL

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psde1c0bd5.jpg
-GSV

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srk1941 (Post 6585964)
That pagoda by the street was there in the early 40s? Don't know how to reconcile that with the LA Times image...

That has me stumped as well. I wonder if the square 'pagoda'-entrance would show up in one of HossC's vintage aerials?
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srk1941 May 21, 2014 6:19 PM

Because the early 40s film shows the pagoda, as does the envelope (which I think is also 1940s, based on the car), I think that pagoda was built after the 1940 sale... and has since been removed.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6586007)
That has me stumped as well. I wonder if the square 'pagoda'-entrance would show up in one of HossC's vintage aerials?
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HossC May 21, 2014 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6586007)

That has me stumped as well. I wonder if the square 'pagoda'-entrance would show up in one of HossC's vintage aerials?

Historic Aerials has images for 1948, 1952 and 1954, but they're all too blurry to make out any detail. Instead, here's a screengrab from the Reginald D. Johnson video that srk1941 linked to (above).
NB. I've lightened and sharpened the image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...irvanaApts.jpg
Vimeo

There's a photo gallery for the Nirvana Apartments, including some interior shots, at www.1775orangedrive.com

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 7:23 PM

:previous: Oh that's a great view of the Nirvana entry pagoda. (I haven't watched the video yet. I plan to tonight)
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I don't believe I've posted these two photographs before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/wgca.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/oxof.jpgebay

The house number is 2415...but no street name.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/wgca.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/npqa.jpgebay

embossed STAGG stamp lower right.

oldstuff May 21, 2014 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6586288)
:previous: Oh that's a great view of the Nirvana entry pagoda. (I haven't watched the video yet. I plan to tonight)
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I don't believe I've posted these two photographs before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/wgca.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/oxof.jpgebay

The house number is 2415...but no street name.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/wgca.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/npqa.jpgebay

embossed STAGG stamp lower right.

It is 2415 Gramercy Park, Los Angeles. Location revealed by cross referencing the Assessor's office and Google Street View. Both that house and the one next door are still there. The Assessor's office has the date of the house at 1917. There has been some "wrought iron frou-frou" added to the porch and the driveway, but essentially the exterior of the house appears the same. The cross street is West 24th Street. The neighborhood still has a lot of houses of that vintage still standing and in great shape.

CityBoyDoug May 21, 2014 9:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6586288)
:previous: Oh that's a great view of the Nirvana entry pagoda. (I haven't watched the video yet. I plan to tonight)
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/wgca.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/npqa.jpgebay

embossed STAGG stamp lower right.


Apartment building in question is on the left & right. Lovely neighborhood. I believe we can see some of the original brick roadway.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps66c0f9eb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps7a7e8b66.jpg
Google SV

ethereal_reality May 21, 2014 9:37 PM

:previous: Good sleuthing oldstuff and CBD. :)

oldstuff, you figured out the location with 2415 as the only clue? That's pretty impressive!

oldstuff May 21, 2014 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6586517)
:previous: Good sleuthing oldstuff and CBD. :)

oldstuff, you figured out the location with 2415 as the only clue? That's pretty impressive!

I ran the street number by itself through the Assessor's office site and then began running all the ones that were in Los Angeles as opposed to any other suburb, pulling up the Google street view as I went. Fortunately, it was only about the 40th one down the page in LA so I did not have to go through the whole county! Also fortunately, it was still there so we could find it. Many of the addresses were either vacant lots, old retail places or new apartments/condos.


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