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Treesplease Apr 3, 2017 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pappcam (Post 7759509)
Which cities are those? Where do the big box stores go? Big box stores are not going away anytime soon.

Where do you propose this to happen in Regina?

I don't know if this is what Festivus was talking about but online is/will be a kick in the pants for big box retail.

pappcam Apr 3, 2017 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Drofmab (Post 7760745)
I think Homer is talking about minimum parking requirements. Regina has minimum requirements well above many progressive cities - and it's obvious. Other than peak days, most of these big box lots are 1/2 at best.

Of course, many of the cities we might compare against, have better transportation infrastructure (a transit system that is actually used by a reasonable portion of the population; ride-sharing; readily-available taxis & ride-sharing), and some walkable neighbourhoods with big boxes integrated into residential developments (think of the Costco & Home Depot in downtown Vancouver). So, at this point, we're comparing apples to oranges.

I'm assuming these "progressive" cities also have geographical constraints forcing the urban renewal.

Apples to oranges indeed.

jigglysquishy Apr 3, 2017 4:35 PM

Calgary has gone full speed on infill and they don't have geographic constraints.

pappcam Apr 3, 2017 4:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jigglysquishy (Post 7760767)
Calgary has gone full speed on infill and they don't have geographic constraints.

Interesting. When I drive through there I see urban sprawl up the ying yang.

Stormer Apr 3, 2017 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pappcam (Post 7759509)
Which cities are those? Where do the big box stores go? Big box stores are not going away anytime soon.

Where do you propose this to happen in Regina?

Even Regina and Saskatoon are focussed on infill. It is not about land availability. It is about infrastructure costs and long term servicing cost of that infrastructure. A perfect example is people complaining in Whitmore park about having to contribute to the cost of replacing the 75' long sidewalk in front of their house. You also have the maintenance of streets, sewers, waterlines, street lights, hydrants and fire and police service to a larger than needed area. It is simply unsustainable to continue this practice with our cost structure in Canada, until robots take over the work.

Stormer Apr 3, 2017 8:29 PM

New Costco to be 23% larger than existing. Crazy innovative architecture:
:haha:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...psqmzrlhnd.jpg

jigglysquishy Apr 3, 2017 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7760930)
Even Regina and Saskatoon are focussed on infill. It is not about land availability. It is about infrastructure costs and long term servicing cost of that infrastructure. A perfect example is people complaining in Whitmore park about having to contribute to the cost of replacing the 75' long sidewalk in front of their house. You also have the maintenance of streets, sewers, waterlines, street lights, hydrants and fire and police service to a larger than needed area. It is simply unsustainable to continue this practice with our cost structure in Canada, until robots take over the work.

Even look at new neighborhoods like Greens on Gardiner. It's the most urban neighborhood built in the past 60 years. The City learned from their mistakes and are forcing density into new areas.

Canterbury Gardens is another example of something that would have never been built 20 years ago.

Scruff Bucket Apr 3, 2017 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7761135)
New Costco to be 23% larger than existing. Crazy innovative architecture:
:haha:

Nice find, Stormer! I hope they include more cashier lanes and/or some thing/procedure to increase throughput. Costco and Real Canadian Superstore seem to be our staples! :)

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Originally Posted by Davidson (Post 7759216)
I thought I read somewhere that big box developments like this with giant parking lots were going out of style? Or is that just wishful thinking on my part?
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Originally Posted by Festivus (Post 7759280)
They are...just not in Regina. We are about 10-20 years behind the times on pretty much every city-design front.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Drofmab (Post 7760745)
I think Homer is talking about minimum parking requirements. Regina has minimum requirements well above many progressive cities - and it's obvious. Other than peak days, most of these big box lots are 1/2 at best.

Of course, many of the cities we might compare against, have better transportation infrastructure (a transit system that is actually used by a reasonable portion of the population; ride-sharing; readily-available taxis & ride-sharing), and some walkable neighbourhoods with big boxes integrated into residential developments (think of the Costco & Home Depot in downtown Vancouver). So, at this point, we're comparing apples to oranges.

Regina is still physically small enough, that changing peoples' preference from driving (and thus, parking) to using a public transportation system probably won't happen for some time! Likewise, new big box store developments with large parking lots may also be part of Regina's future for a while.

Many walkable, downtown Vancouver neighbourhoods actually do have pretty heavy, vehicular traffic, wherever not purposefully restricted -- large metropolitan centres will always have significant, vehicular traffic no matter how well-utilized public transportation is! -- with a lot of the traffics' non-through vehicles requiring parking spaces. Vancouver's various, downtown community planners over the years have just been good at increasing density of parking spaces and/or hiding them. A lot of the places downtown or near downtown, like Home Depot, Save-On foods, Canadian Tire, Best Buy, Whole Foods, Costco, London Drugs, Winners/Homesense, and shopping malls, restaurants, hotels and even the convention centre, Canada Place, and including large condo towers, etc., have or share good-sized, multi-leveled, metred, public, parking garage structures either above ground or underground (majority).

Also, many suburban big box stores in Vancouver will include covered, multi-leveled parking garages, like Real Canadian Superstore, IKEA, some T and T supermarkets! And we notice they are pretty filled whenever we visit these locations! (When we go there (or pretty much anywhere), we drive, toting our 3 kids along!) :)

Drofmab Apr 3, 2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scruff Bucket (Post 7761218)
Likewise, new big box store developments with large parking lots may also be part of Regina's future for a while.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Scruff Bucket (Post 7761218)
Also, many suburban big box stores in Vancouver will include covered, multi-leveled parking garages, like Real Canadian Superstore, IKEA, some T and T supermarkets! And we notice they are pretty filled whenever we visit these locations!

I think this is what bothers me about Regina... the parking lots are needlessly large. And in most cases, it's not the developers begging for bigger lots, it's the City requiring them... while at the same time trying to encourage density & transit usage.

Let's meet in the middle by requiring smaller parking lots - this won't force people to use anything other than their individual vehicles, but it also won't leave us with vast unused parking lots. True, we'll need to suck up a handful of days annually that the lot won't be big enough/people have to circle one more time to find a spot. Other than Costco, I'd guess peak weekly lot usage for WalMarts, Superstores, Home Depot, Lowes, various shopping centres, etc is 75%. Average use is probably closer to 50%. Around Christmas we might see a sustained usage of 70%, peaking near 95%.

No need to build for peak usage...if that were the test, streets around Mosaic would be 4-5 lanes wide each direction to allow for the short burst of pre/post-Rider game traffic flow.

Stormer Apr 3, 2017 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=Scruff Bucket;7761218]Nice find, Stormer! I hope they include more cashier lanes and/or some thing/procedure to increase throughput. Costco and Real Canadian Superstore seem to be our staples! :)


17 by my count. Not sure how many are in the current one.

StealthGirl Apr 3, 2017 10:25 PM

The Costco goes before the city planning commission on Wednesday.

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Originally Posted by cjme
The proposal includes 14,600 square metres of floor space. Space for office, warehousing, food services, a gas bar and vehicle repair shop would be included as well.

Drivers would be able to access the new building through four different entrances with parking space of more than 860 spots.

http://cjme.com/article/1218587/regi...ers-new-costco

BrutallyDishonest2 Apr 3, 2017 10:39 PM

[QUOTE=Stormer;7761290]
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Originally Posted by Scruff Bucket (Post 7761218)
Nice find, Stormer! I hope they include more cashier lanes and/or some thing/procedure to increase throughput. Costco and Real Canadian Superstore seem to be our staples! :)


17 by my count. Not sure how many are in the current one.

I don't think it matters. It'll continue to be the suburban fustercluck it always was.

saskdave Apr 3, 2017 10:46 PM

Various updates
 
Updates from the Home and Garden Show:

Westerra guys say they have 5 additional retail (including a grocery store) committed and are letting each retailer announce when they are ready. This is in addition to the co-op gas bar and hotels.

Cooperstown - Plans back at the Planning Commission as they would like to proceed this fall. They have no confirmed retail but would also like a grocery store. They have expanded the long-term footprint all the way to the bypass now.

Costco - Plans at the Regina Planning commission.

As an aside, Dilawri guys this morning said they have purchased the old Sears call centre site. But they didn't know what the plans are. The said plans are underway for the parking lot across the street from the old Sears to be developed into a BMW, LandRover and Jaguar dealership(s).

dave

StealthGirl Apr 4, 2017 12:09 AM

Is there really that much demand to start building Coopertown? I though the economy was slowing some and there was less selling.

I would think Save-on has to be looking at some of those new developments as they are rumoured to want to expand their number in the city.

jigglysquishy Apr 4, 2017 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StealthGirl (Post 7761436)
Is there really that much demand to start building Coopertown? I though the economy was slowing some and there was less selling.

I would think Save-on has to be looking at some of those new developments as they are rumoured to want to expand their number in the city.

It's really the future of Regina for the next 20 years ago I understand people being eager to start. For all the talk of a slowdown the City still grew by over 4000 last year.

Harbour Landing is gonna finish this year and the Greens next year so Westerra/The Towns/Coopertown will see a huge push in the next little bit.

Stormer Apr 4, 2017 1:47 AM

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Originally Posted by saskdave (Post 7761337)
Updates from the Home and Garden Show:

Westerra guys say they have 5 additional retail (including a grocery store) committed and are letting each retailer announce when they are ready. This is in addition to the co-op gas bar and hotels.

Cooperstown - Plans back at the Planning Commission as they would like to proceed this fall. They have no confirmed retail but would also like a grocery store. They have expanded the long-term footprint all the way to the bypass now.

Costco - Plans at the Regina Planning commission.

As an aside, Dilawri guys this morning said they have purchased the old Sears call centre site. But they didn't know what the plans are. The said plans are underway for the parking lot across the street from the old Sears to be developed into a BMW, LandRover and Jaguar dealership(s).

dave

The Cooperstown OCP is up at the RPC also. It envisions an urban centre (mini downtown) and 36,000 residents.

The new dealership is big news if true. At least 2 other dealership groups have tried to get a Rover/Jag dealer in recent years.

2 previous plans Dilawri had for Sears across the street appear to have fallen through.

Drofmab Apr 5, 2017 4:11 PM

Cornwall has all of the areas slated for major reno (primarily for H&M) walled off... except for Tim's. A little more than half of the seating area between Tims & Zam Zam has been enclosed & the seats relocated to the area in front of MAC (former Bentley).

Really gives you a sense of the scale of H&M. I realize there are a couple small stores in this area, as well as the walkway leading to the new pedway - but it's still a very large space.

That area is going to feel very weird for the next while - especially so once Tim's moves. Anyone heard a timeline on getting the new pedway in? Once that's in place, they should be able to work on H&M as one continuous space, not the disjointed spaces they're working in right now.

one_brick_at_a_time Apr 6, 2017 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Drofmab (Post 7763242)
Cornwall has all of the areas slated for major reno (primarily for H&M) walled off... except for Tim's. A little more than half of the seating area between Tims & Zam Zam has been enclosed & the seats relocated to the area in front of MAC (former Bentley).

Really gives you a sense of the scale of H&M. I realize there are a couple small stores in this area, as well as the walkway leading to the new pedway - but it's still a very large space.

That area is going to feel very weird for the next while - especially so once Tim's moves. Anyone heard a timeline on getting the new pedway in? Once that's in place, they should be able to work on H&M as one continuous space, not the disjointed spaces they're working in right now.

Such a crucial development for the mall and a huge anchor for that side which is going to do wonders for mall traffic and for downtown visitors as well. So happy about this!

Stormer Apr 6, 2017 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 7764110)
Such a crucial development for the mall and a huge anchor for that side which is going to do wonders for mall traffic and for downtown visitors as well. So happy about this!

It should look very "big city". Two big international retailers with street frontage on either side on the entrance.

A4Regina Apr 6, 2017 6:00 PM

I'm hoping Sears will downsize/move out in the next couple of years. It should open up a lot of space for new retailers, and give cornwall opportunity to spruce up the sask dr/hamilton sides of the mall.

sask1982 Apr 6, 2017 6:21 PM

[QUOTE=BrutallyDishonest2;7761328]
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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7761290)
I don't think it matters. It'll continue to be the suburban fustercluck it always was.

AGREED! Traffic will not be improved because the only major entry into that area will be off Vic Ave E/#1 Hwy. No direct access from west (Regina Memorial Gardens) or east (Regina Bypass on-ramp). The access from the south will only be in place once Tower Road is realigned, and really, the only way to access Tower Road will be off Arcola Ave unless you get to it through The Greens/The Towns.

Drofmab Apr 6, 2017 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A4Regina (Post 7764596)
I'm hoping Sears will downsize/move out in the next couple of years. It should open up a lot of space for new retailers, and give cornwall opportunity to spruce up the sask dr/hamilton sides of the mall.

I agree. Sears has been clearing a bunch of small home appliances and other items for the past couple of weeks - a clerk told me they're revamping their product mix. Perhaps this is just a normal tweak, but I haven't seen such extensive clearances before (perfectly good small appliances which were already 50% off were marked down 50-70% off. My dad got a $240 Kitchen Aid crockpot for $40... unopened, not a return/damaged). So, might be an indication of downsizing... or it might be nothing.

Related: Sunrise Records is also taking over the Cornwall location.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ewan-1.4059270

BrutallyDishonest2 Apr 7, 2017 12:33 AM

Sears has also sold their Sears Home building, though for the time being they have leased it back.

yveseluj Apr 7, 2017 3:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drofmab (Post 7764968)
I agree. Sears has been clearing a bunch of small home appliances and other items for the past couple of weeks - a clerk told me they're revamping their product mix. Perhaps this is just a normal tweak, but I haven't seen such extensive clearances before (perfectly good small appliances which were already 50% off were marked down 50-70% off. My dad got a $240 Kitchen Aid crockpot for $40... unopened, not a return/damaged). So, might be an indication of downsizing... or it might be nothing.

Related: Sunrise Records is also taking over the Cornwall location.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ewan-1.4059270

Walked though Sears today and a good part of their second level now carries the same type of knickknacks that you'd see in Home Sense or Bouclairs - home furnishing/decor type of stuff.

Stormer Apr 25, 2017 9:43 PM

All the retail in the Conexus Plaza is hoarded in - see pic. It appears that Harvard is doing a major refresh of the façade and incorporating this into the Shoppes on Hamilton across the street. From what I can see, it appears that Colin O'Brian and/or Jessica Bridal are expanding rather than a new retailer going in.

I also heard a rumour that Harvard has secured 3 new tenants for the CRU's across the street. All are women oriented retailers.


http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps61wfohi2.jpg

BrutallyDishonest2 Apr 25, 2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7784801)

I also heard a rumour that Harvard has secured 3 new tenants for the CRU's across the street. All are women oriented retailers.

Not surprising, as that's pretty much the only retailers Rosanne will look at.

one_brick_at_a_time Apr 25, 2017 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7784801)
All the retail in the Conexus Plaza is hoarded in - see pic. It appears that Harvard is doing a major refresh of the façade and incorporating this into the Shoppes on Hamilton across the street. From what I can see, it appears that Colin O'Brian and/or Jessica Bridal are expanding rather than a new retailer going in.

I also heard a rumour that Harvard has secured 3 new tenants for the CRU's across the street. All are women oriented retailers.


http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps61wfohi2.jpg

This is amazing and so good for Hamilton's retail revitalization!

one_brick_at_a_time Apr 29, 2017 11:33 PM

Are there any renders of this anywhere?

one_brick_at_a_time May 5, 2017 9:44 AM

Looks like Metalsmiths is gone from the Cornwall Centre and opening a new location elsewhere...

NEW CONCEPT STORE OPENING SUMMER 2017 Metalsmiths Sterling™ Corporate Store | Grasslands | Corner of Gordon Road & Lewvan

https://metalsmiths.ca/pages/corporate-locations#hide7

yveseluj May 6, 2017 3:54 AM

Yes. Saje just opened in their old spot in Cornwall.

one_brick_at_a_time May 6, 2017 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by yveseluj (Post 7796518)
Yes. Saje just opened in their old spot in Cornwall.

I am aware. My point was that they didn't choose to move to another spot in the mall, or even Southland Mall.

BrannyMuffin May 18, 2017 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7784801)
I also heard a rumour that Harvard has secured 3 new tenants for the CRU's across the street. All are women oriented retailers.


http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps61wfohi2.jpg

Sara Lindsay The Makeup Store is relocating to Shoppes on Hamilton. They'll be sharing a space with Smith & Best which, I believe, will be a second location for them. (No idea what the others might be.

BrutallyDishonest2 May 19, 2017 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BrannyMuffin (Post 7809186)
No idea what the others might be.

One's a fashion retailer from Saskatoon.

one_brick_at_a_time May 28, 2017 9:13 PM

Any updates regarding Cornwall Centre construction?

pappcam May 29, 2017 4:21 AM

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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 7817895)
Any updates regarding Cornwall Centre construction?

Nothing much to report. Work is happening behind temporary walls in the SE corner on the 2nd floor. I expect Tim's to be moving downstairs by the 11th Ave. entrance very soon.

one_brick_at_a_time May 29, 2017 7:44 AM

I wonder if the 11th Avenue entrance is changing at all or the ugly brick heading into the mall.

pappcam May 29, 2017 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 7818230)
I wonder if the 11th Avenue entrance is changing at all or the ugly brick heading into the mall.

I believe the 11th Ave. entrance is getting a facelift of some sort.

Stormer May 29, 2017 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pappcam (Post 7818521)
I believe the 11th Ave. entrance is getting a facelift of some sort.

I saw a load of bricks delivered the other day.

Drofmab May 29, 2017 9:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pappcam (Post 7818130)
Nothing much to report. Work is happening behind temporary walls in the SE corner on the 2nd floor. I expect Tim's to be moving downstairs by the 11th Ave. entrance very soon.

Current pedway to RBC building closes June 1st, with new pedway opening in the fall.

StealthGirl May 30, 2017 5:17 AM

Not sure if it was mentioned here, but I was talking to one of the staff at Home Outfitters on Saturday. They have started clearing out and officially will start to wind down in mid-June. Apparently they just can't keep up with the competition and the online world so they are calling it quits.

Stormer May 30, 2017 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthGirl (Post 7819165)
Not sure if it was mentioned here, but I was talking to one of the staff at Home Outfitters on Saturday. They have started clearing out and officially will start to wind down in mid-June. Apparently they just can't keep up with the competition and the online world so they are calling it quits.

They don't even have online buying. It has never been a great store. HBC has other things to focus on.

one_brick_at_a_time Jun 5, 2017 7:09 PM

Looks like Bison Liquor is taking a 14,966 sf section of the redeveloped Golden Mile former Extra Foods. Quite a large chunk.

http://www.onereit.ca/property/21/go...hopping-centre

A 10,000 sf Sobey's Liquor is also now shown on Southland Mall's Map.

http://www.onereit.ca/property/44/southland-mall

Dan0myte Jun 5, 2017 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 7825428)
]A 10,000 sf Sobey's Liquor is also now shown on Southland Mall's Map.

http://www.onereit.ca/property/44/southland-mall

Oh, on the old Turbo gas station! :tup: Convenient location.

pappcam Jun 5, 2017 7:58 PM

The Timmy's in the Cornwall Centre is closing at its current location on Thursday, June 8th and re-opening in its new location by the 11th Avenue entrance on Monday, June 12th. I imagine the destruction/re-construction of the complate H&M area to go full bore ahead at that point.

BrutallyDishonest2 Jun 6, 2017 3:00 AM

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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 7825428)
Looks like Bison Liquor is taking a 14,966 sf section of the redeveloped Golden Mile former Extra Foods. Quite a large chunk.

http://www.onereit.ca/property/21/go...hopping-centre

This one could be entertaining as it wasn't part of the bid winners.

StealthGirl Jun 6, 2017 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2 (Post 7825976)
This one could be entertaining as it wasn't part of the bid winners.

Could that be a distillery like Rebellion and not retail?

Drofmab Jun 6, 2017 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2 (Post 7825976)
This one could be entertaining as it wasn't part of the bid winners.

I don't think there's anything preventing an existing offsale from opening a new & expanded location... but 14,000sqft? That's significantly larger than Sobeys at Southland (10,000sqft).

(ISC doesn't have a record of 'Bison Liquor' at the moment)

...maybe Willow Park's finally decided to throw in the towel (IMHO, they've been on life support since arriving in Regina...Sobeys at Southland will finish them), & Bison Liquor is what will rise from the fire sale.

Stormer Jun 6, 2017 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Drofmab (Post 7826648)
I don't think there's anything preventing an existing offsale from opening a new & expanded location... but 14,000sqft? That's significantly larger than Sobeys at Southland (10,000sqft).

(ISC doesn't have a record of 'Bison Liquor' at the moment)

...maybe Willow Park's finally decided to throw in the towel (IMHO, they've been on life support since arriving in Regina...Sobeys at Southland will finish them), & Bison Liquor is what will rise from the fire sale.

I do not see Bison Liquor on the Golden mile link?

Drofmab Jun 6, 2017 8:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7826766)
I do not see Bison Liquor on the Golden mile link?

It's in the PDF Floorplan. Unlike Fatburger, there's no logo pointing to the large area (1100) of the old Extra Foods where Bison Liquor will go, but it's in the tenant listing.

At 14,966sqft, it'll be the 4th largest tenant in the mall (behind RCSS, GoodLife & Rainbow)

Stormer Jun 6, 2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Drofmab (Post 7826838)
It's in the PDF Floorplan. Unlike Fatburger, there's no logo pointing to the large area (1100) of the old Extra Foods where Bison Liquor will go, but it's in the tenant listing.

At 14,966sqft, it'll be the 4th largest tenant in the mall (behind RCSS, GoodLife & Rainbow)

I am going to suggest this was conditional on Bison getting a SLGA permit. They did not, the lease is dead and OneReit just has not updated the map.


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