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MichaelRyerson Mar 15, 2013 11:58 PM

This shows the north building pretty clearly...
 
and check out the cool streetlight hanging over the intersection...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8424/7...33a18d86_o.jpg
los angeles high school, 1910

Photograph of Los Angeles High School, Fort Moore Hill, overgrown with vines, 1910. At center, the original six story bell tower building is covered with ivy. At left, the vines stop on the clock tower just beneath the clock, whose hands are missing. The side entrance is partially hidden behind the bough of a tree but the sloping columns are apparent where they frame the staircase. At right, a lone automobile is parked along the sidewalk near the second, north building.

USC digital archive

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 1:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6053871)
and check out the cool streetlight hanging over the intersection...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8424/7...33a18d86_o.jpg
los angeles high school, 1910

Photograph of Los Angeles High School, Fort Moore Hill, overgrown with vines, 1910. At center, the original six story bell tower building is covered with ivy. At left, the vines stop on the clock tower just beneath the clock, whose hands are missing. The side entrance is partially hidden behind the bough of a tree but the sloping columns are apparent where they frame the staircase. At right, a lone automobile is parked along the sidewalk near the second, north building.

USC digital archive

and there it is..the building i mention in my previous post...it looks as if it would be an important building all on its own, but it seems to always take a backseat to the big building...

tovangar2 Mar 16, 2013 1:14 AM

There's an aside in Carey McWilliam's "Southern California: An Island on the Land" (1946):

"Some years ago a leading citizen of Pasadena was arrested on the morning of the day when he was have to received an honorary degree from a local college. Along with seven or eight other other leading lights of Pasadena, all men of advanced years, he was charged with having engaged in a charming assortment of sexual perversions with school-aged youngsters. He later committed suicide. The prompt and efficient manner in which this particular scandal was buried under an avalanche of dense silence remains one of the most remarkable accomplishments of the remarkable Los Angeles press." Chapter XV "The Los Angeles Archipelago", 5. "The Crown of the Valley"


Anyone got the story on that, or is it really lost down the memory hole? I've never had any luck trying to research it.

ethereal_reality Mar 16, 2013 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6053939)
and there it is..the building i mention in my previous post...it looks as if it would be an important building all on its own, but it seems to always take a backseat to the big building...

I wasn't aware of the north-side addition. Thanks for pointing that out belmont bob, and double thanks to MichaelRyerson for finding the photograph.

...but what's up with the clock!? Was it ever in working order?

ethereal_reality Mar 16, 2013 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6052683)
For a brief time, Westchester had the Loyola, the Paradise, and a third theater. It was the 1,530-seat La Tijera, on La Tijera Blvd. just south of Centinela in far NE Westchester. The S. Charles Lee-designed building operated as a theater only for about four years, starting in January 1949. Next it was a bowling alley and is now an office building.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd6ba5de9.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...602&FULLSIZE=y

[and the last time the Googlemobile went by:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb45d3866.jpg
GSV

Excellent post on the La Tijera Theater Flyingwedge! It's hard to believe that's the same building.
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ethereal_reality Mar 16, 2013 2:34 AM

I thought this might stir some memories...

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/4919/a...capadesatt.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

The Ice Capades at Pan-Pacific Auditorium (date unknown)
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belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 2:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6053993)
I thought this might stir some memories...

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/4919/a...capadesatt.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

The Ice Capades at Pan-Pacific Auditorium (date unknown)
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yes, it does for me as i mentioned in an earlier post, my parents were big fans...and i remember going to see these, i just don't remember if it was once or twice or what...

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 3:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6053956)
I wasn't aware of the north-side addition. Thanks for pointing that out belmont bob, and double thanks to MichaelRyerson for finding the photograph.

...but what's up with the clock!? Was it ever in working order?

the second building is clearly shown on the Baist's maps and if the scale is anything close to the real building footprint looks a little larger than the original building...

ProphetM Mar 16, 2013 5:05 AM

Stevens Place
 
So, I was looking at the wonderful photos posted of the second high school, and trying to place in my mind how it related to the location on the hill of the first high school (after they moved it from Poundcake Hill). I found what I was looking for on the Baist maps, but it also set me to wondering about Stevens Place, southeast of the corner of Grand & Sunset, which is now also part of the school property.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...653%2520PM.jpg
Historic Map Works

I know the street is long gone, and the land now occupied by that giant school building, but I wanted to see if anything remained of it - like a half-covered remnant of curved curbing or something else to indicate there was once a street corner there.

There's no curved concrete that I can tell. But wait - right next to what would have been the SE corner of Grand Ave. & Stevens Place, there is a storm drain, surrounded by concrete that looks older than the rest of the sidewalk. And look what's painted on it:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o...652%2520PM.jpg
Google Street View

Like that brick basement wall recently excavated downtown on a lot that has been a parking lot for decades, posted a few pages back - it's interesting how some things can stick around long past when you'd think they would be completely gone. If you Google for stevens place, los angeles, you even get a map of just the right spot, even though there is no Stevens Place actually on the map.

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 5:41 AM

LA High School ..second building?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6054098)
So, I was looking at the wonderful photos posted of the second high school, and trying to place in my mind how it related to the location on the hill of the first high school (after they moved it from Poundcake Hill). I found what I was looking for on the Baist maps, but it also set me to wondering about Stevens Place, southeast of the corner of Grand & Sunset, which is now also part of the school property.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...653%2520PM.jpg
Historic Map Works

I know the street is long gone, and the land now occupied by that giant school building, but I wanted to see if anything remained of it - like a half-covered remnant of curved curbing or something else to indicate there was once a street corner there.

There's no curved concrete that I can tell. But wait - right next to what would have been the SE corner of Grand Ave. & Stevens Place, there is a storm drain, surrounded by concrete that looks older than the rest of the sidewalk. And look what's painted on it:


Like that brick basement wall recently excavated downtown on a lot that has been a parking lot for decades, posted a few pages back - it's interesting how some things can stick around long past when you'd think they would be completely gone. If you Google for stevens place, los angeles, you even get a map of just the right spot, even though there is no Stevens Place actually on the map.

and while you look at Stevens Place ..what is right before our eyes...none other than the north building of the high school..or at least what is labled as such

GaylordWilshire Mar 16, 2013 11:41 AM

Beckett house, revisited
 
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7206/beckett1250.jpg
MLS


It looks like Curbed has discovered the Beckett house, years after Noirish and others: http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...snormandie.php


See also Noirish post 1848 here and 1849 here.


Don't miss the great Alison Krause/Robert Plant video showing the Beckett's interior and grounds--it has a new new link and is worth the mindless 30 sec ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Xi5gvZ7Kk

GaylordWilshire Mar 16, 2013 1:05 PM

Dust to dust
 
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6...ettnew1906.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3...ettnow1250.jpg



http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8...partycompl.jpg



"The beautiful new home of Dr. and Mrs. W. W. Beckett of No. 2218 Harvard boulevard was brilliantly alight with electricity and gay flowers last evening, at the handsomely appointed reception which they gave in celebration of their twenty-fifth wedding anniversary.

"Dr. and Mrs. Beckett were married just twenty-five years ago yesterday at San Luis Obispo and since then, for most of the time, have made their home in this city, where they possess a large number of friends. Last night's affair was given as a supper and few knew it was an anniversary until they arrived.

"The entire home was trimmed with asparagus ferns in clinging tendrils and the handsome couple received their friends beneath an arch of feathery greens, in which silver tinsel was tightly wound, and from the center of which hung a huge bell of green, covered with shining tinsel, and a silvery electric light formed the clapper. White bride roses graced this room. The drawing-room was in bride roses and ferns, and in the large colonial hall, lit with red candles in odd brass candlesticks, poinsettias formed striking ornaments against the white of the walls. The den was also in poinsettias, and the dining-room was adorned with the flaming blossoms. Below stairs when refreshments were served in the gymnasium, scarlet crepe paper canopied the walls and holly and poinsettias were combined about the room. The table was lit with red candles, set in quaint old brass sconces, and down the center were set pots of the poinsettias.

"The hostess herself was charmingly attired in silver gray satin gown of softest sheen, trimmed with applique and velvet roses,and wore silver ornaments.

"Assisting in receiving were Mmes W. W. D. Turner, Walter Lindley, R. M. Widney, W. H. Richards, Z. L. Parmalee, R. H. Lacey and Mrs. Lee A. Phillips of Stockton and Mrs. Charles Crothers of San Jose, Miss Maude Elizabeth Richards, Miss Hawks, Miss Belle McClung,Miss Clara Parmalee and Miss Zella Kohn Arend's orchestra discoursed sweet music through the evening, and nearly five hundred guests congratulated the popular couple."


http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5...terior1250.jpg


All color pics CurbedLA/b&w LAT

ethereal_reality Mar 16, 2013 2:13 PM

It sure is wonderful to see the magnificent Beckett House again. Thanks GW!
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Interesting discovery on Steven's Place ProphetM. Isn't it fun when you come across remnants like that? Gotta love the google-mobile!

Graybeard Mar 16, 2013 3:23 PM

I made the series of shots from post #13287 into a gif. I can slow it down if it's going too fast.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7848/build4.gif

Series from http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/EC37...003&format=999

MichaelRyerson Mar 16, 2013 3:25 PM

View from the west...
 
somewhat later than we'd like, I know, but this is really the only thing I've found looking back to Fort Moore Hill from the west...nice shot, lots of things in here.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8...057a93ea_o.jpg
aerial looking southeast across fort moore hill, ca,1939

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington collection

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6054261)
It sure is wonderful to see the magnificent Beckett House again. Thanks GW!
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Interesting discovery on Steven's Place ProphetM. Isn't it fun when you come across remnants like that? Gotta love the google-mobile!

It's a wonderful old house for sure.

The only architectural features that seem to have changed over the years is the discarded parapet railings along the roof edge. But that ia an interesting one. Was a flat roof replaced by a sloping roof to improve drainage? Or maybe to keep people from walking on it. To me, that is a significant alteration. Hummm.

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graybeard (Post 6054328)
I made the series of shots from post #13287 into a gif. I can slow it down if it's going too fast.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7848/build4.gif

Series from http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/EC37...003&format=999

this is amazing...oh how much fun we could have if other builders would have done the same time to time photos during construction..

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6054331)
somewhat later than we'd like, I know, but this is really the only thing I've found looking back to Fort Moore Hill from the west...nice shot, lots of things in here.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8...057a93ea_o.jpg
aerial looking southeast across fort moore hill, ca,1939

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington collection

Alas, too late to see the old high school buildings and Stevens Place….and the north portal to the Hill St. no 2 tunnel is cut off or blocked by a building. Does anyone know when the Central Jr. High was built? Has there been any street level photos posted similar to the old high school shots?

belmont bob Mar 16, 2013 4:07 PM

West view of Fort Moore Hill
 
Another interesting view Michael of the Fort Moore Hill area would have been the buildings located on the narrow finger formed by the south side of Sunset and the north side where Hill wraps around to the west. That was a significant grade change as Hill climbs up to the level of the school while Sunset continues to slope down towards Broadway. Those buildings squeezed into that area which is clearly seen on the Baist’s map would indeed have been perched there like pigeons on a wire.
Sometimes the deatails are just so close and yet just enough to be frustrating.

GaylordWilshire Mar 16, 2013 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6053871)
and check out the cool streetlight hanging over the intersection...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V...sonsmaller.jpg


Photograph of Los Angeles High School, Fort Moore Hill, overgrown with vines, 1910. At center, the original six story bell tower building is covered with ivy. At left, the vines stop on the clock tower just beneath the clock, whose hands are missing. The side entrance is partially hidden behind the bough of a tree but the sloping columns are apparent where they frame the staircase. At right, a lone automobile is parked along the sidewalk near the second, north building.

USC digital archive


MR: We--my Angeleno friend and I--are thinking that maybe this is a little closer to the year the school moved to Olympic in 1917 than 1910. Can anyone zero in on the make/approx year of that car? Also--I'm not positive, but I believe that old style of intersection streetlamp was lowerable on a pulley system for changing the bulb etc....


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