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FredH Mar 15, 2013 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6052080)
I think Fred is actually asking about the location used for the dog track in the movie 'Johnny Eager' with Robert Taylor. Not a real dog track. And, for Fred, my vote would be yes.

I think the movie was set in New York, if I remember. I have a suspicion that the track never existed and was somehow "built" with Hollywood imagination.

You and my wife are of the same mind.

Hollywood Graham Mar 15, 2013 1:03 AM

Pan pacific
 
pan pacific was a great venue, I used to ride my bike from Silverlake to the Auto Show, I remember the introduction of the 53 Corvette, they had a trunk of one where you could jump on it to show how strong it was. Also used to ride down the street to the Aquarium Stock Co. and buy a couple fish to bring home for my aquarium. They made it all the way in the plastic bag. I did not think that Pan Pacific was as old as it was.

FredH Mar 15, 2013 1:06 AM

Not Good
 
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8274/capturevzz.jpg
http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2010/09/...mboats-36.html

FredH Mar 15, 2013 1:15 AM

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/294...cstudiojpg.jpg
http://audioinfosource.com/2011/12/t...-small-studio/

THE WORLD’S SMALLEST RECORDING STUDIO?
Check out this 1946 photo of the (now long-gone) Hollywood Recording Studio in downtown Los Angeles, owned by engineer Mr. J. T. Martin. The 9×9-foot structure is divided into two rooms—a 6×9 combination office/control room, and an elongated 3×9-foot recording area.

BifRayRock Mar 15, 2013 1:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4664258)
Belasco Theater.


http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6...theater191.jpg
usc digital archiv
Above: No date or address.



Two Belascos. The old one at 3rd and Main ^^ and the newer one, next to the Mayan, below vvv at 105 S. Hill Street. Still going strong. (Parking fees may have increased in the past 80+ years.)


http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1314927864http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/27684/photos/24392




Don't believe these vvv have been posted before.


1926 - Comprehensive Construction Chronicles

1.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C86DAFIL8X.jpg


2.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UJIELDDEYC.jpg


3.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...J7PFRGX9XQ.jpg

4.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NRHJYPU3QG.jpg

5.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...F69XKYFDPE.jpg

6.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YJSIR6HFM2.jpg

7.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...MKB9LYVHIB.jpg


8.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...R68JRGLI86.jpg

9.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...HH9MXUXM7T.jpg

10.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...HFJBFPNGLJ.jpg


11.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...VLCDR7GL6Q.jpg

12.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DV6B32PDK3.jpg


13.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YIUXUG7PBS.jpg

14.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RQAL5E5B2I.jpg

15.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...J2XYUH6542.jpg

16.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DXICUGUAFY.jpg

17.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...8XMCEQD9KY.jpg

18.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...LUH2S1PIID.jpg Series from http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/EC37...003&format=999


Marquee: Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (ca. 1928) The Son-Daughter, ca. 1932

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...VRC8HPS3IC.jpg CalStLib

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5LV2JTIC42.jpgCalStLib

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...LB1PMVFML3.jpgCalStLib

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ANFXYR26E5.jpgCalStLib



Circa 1928
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...AMJLSDE489.jpgCal St Lib

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...BIBBJIVSGL.jpgCalStLib

Circa 1927 - to the right of the Mayan
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...J4274LXM8K.jpg

ethereal_reality Mar 15, 2013 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5986652)
San Fernando Rd (1936)

http://imageshack.us/a/img685/2817/2121rd.jpgGoogleSV
Originally built for the Hemphill Diesel Engineering Schools

GW, I thought you might find this interesting.

"In 1936, Architects Norstrom and Anderson expanded an existing lumber shed from 1923 and added a streamlined, two-story office portion
fronting San Fernando Road. The addition features a central tower and one of Los Angeles' great architectural tributes to the machine age:
an expansive frieze across the facade with reliefs depicting the use of diesel engines in trains, planes, ships, trucks, tractors, and electric
generating sets."

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/1948/a...llbookebay.jpg
found on ebay



I'm curious about the lantern atop the tower. I wonder how it was lit? beacon-like?
http://imageshack.us/a/img189/6664/a...lgooglecar.jpg
gsv



stark lines-a contemporary view
http://imageshack.us/a/img90/3341/aa...onsabanfli.jpg
Don Saban at http://www.flickr.com/



streamline train
http://imageshack.us/a/img705/3845/a...aillauriea.jpg





stylized rainbow
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/3845/a...aillauriea.jpg



ocean liner
http://imageshack.us/a/img853/2192/a...eilfitzpat.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilfit...ck/4471934106/


dirigible
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/1120/a...cottlowefl.jpg
Scott Lowe at http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottlowe/7003155602/






After Hemphill's departure, the building on San Fernando Road became a pressing plant for Capitol Records.

http://imageshack.us/a/img341/7925/a...pitolrecor.jpg
unknown



below: Stan Kenton at Capitol Records' pressing plant.* ( I marked Shelly Manne with a red V)

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/2116/a...nshellyred.jpg
http://digital.library.unt.edu/

* To be honest, I am not 100% sure this is the San Fernando Road pressing plant. When I first noticed Shelly Manne I immediately thought L.A.!
but Mr. Manne didn't move to Los Angeles until the late 1950s. -so this could possibly be an east coast plant.


previous post on Shelly Manne and his "Manne-Hole" on Cahuenga between Sunset & Hollywood Boulevard.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3443
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BifRayRock Mar 15, 2013 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6052263)
pan pacific was a great venue, I used to ride my bike from Silverlake to the Auto Show, I remember the introduction of the 53 Corvette, they had a trunk of one where you could jump on it to show how strong it was. Also used to ride down the street to the Aquarium Stock Co. and buy a couple fish to bring home for my aquarium. They made it all the way in the plastic bag. I did not think that Pan Pacific was as old as it was.



Believe there have been a couple of posts that pictured but did not mention the Aquarium Stock Co. 8070 Beverly Blvd. East of Crescent Heights. Not familiar with the business but vaguely recall the store advertising sign. Blue with white lettering?

http://image0-rubylane.s3.amazonaws....es/7847.1L.jpg
http://image0-rubylane.s3.amazonaws....es/7847.2L.jpg google

Due west across Crescent Heights: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9425

Was your bike a Schwinn, Huffy or a Murray?


ethereal_reality Mar 15, 2013 2:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6052206)
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1656/greenyoung2.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6...enyoung1sh.jpg


A friend of mine who doesn't post here himself--a native and lifelong Angeleno with a great sense of his city's history--found two fantastic shots of the Green in his collection and has been kind enough to allow me to post them on Noirish. He's done an incredible job of inserting what remains of the building into the original from 1894. The third picture is dated 1924.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4259/greenyoung3.jpg


You can see that the enlargement of the four small windows under the arches on the north side was done, as was the addition of a door, some time before 1924.


All pics: Private Collection

Simply amazing!! Thank your friend for me GW. -this is priceless
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ethereal_reality Mar 15, 2013 2:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6052221)

I really like this photograph BifRayRock. I've never noticed the five gigantic vents on the roof before.
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Krell58 Mar 15, 2013 3:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6049192)
Got milk?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ace&DMROTATE=0

Crescent Milk from Crescent Creamery, on Slauson Avenue. (The enlarged images look fine to me ;))


Circa 1924
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047113.jpgLapl


Circa 1926
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047057.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics25/00047085.jpg Lapl

Thanks!! :tup:

tovangar2 Mar 15, 2013 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6051971)
I remember attending an auto show c.1960 and also Ice Follies or such with my parents probably more than once. Grand building for sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6052263)
pan pacific was a great venue, I used to ride my bike from Silverlake to the Auto Show, I remember the introduction of the 53 Corvette, they had a trunk of one where you could jump on it to show how strong it was. Also used to ride down the street to the Aquarium Stock Co. and buy a couple fish to bring home for my aquarium. They made it all the way in the plastic bag. I did not think that Pan Pacific was as old as it was.

I keep thinking some of us must have crossed paths when we were youngsters. MichaelRyerson posted a few pages back about being taken shopping at the 7th and Broadway Bullock's. My sister and I hated making the rounds of the Broadway, Bullock's, May Co and Robinson's . We used to beg to be left at Central Library instead (the only place we were allowed to be downtown alone as kids). Some days our wish was granted. Heaven.

(I was still shopping at Bullock's and Robinson's right to the end in the 70s and 80s, finally appreciating them. Bullock's was quirky and old-fashioned, but Robinson's was a gorgeous store. Last I heard it was a switch hotel.)

I loved Pan Pacific Auditorium though. I thought it was thrilling. Could not get enough.

We knew it was a goner when the big new post office was built way too close to the Pan Pacific's western front about the same time, I think, Pan Pacific Park went in. The park is a big hole in the ground, excavated to be part of LA's flood control system. I've seen it quite full. They pump the water up to the storm drains in big hoses. Pan Pacific Rec Center was built after the fire that destroyed the auditorium.

Lwize Mar 15, 2013 3:30 AM

What building was being completed in the background as the Belasco was under construction?

belmont bob Mar 15, 2013 3:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6052206)
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1656/greenyoung2.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6...enyoung1sh.jpg


A friend of mine who doesn't post here himself--a native and lifelong Angeleno with a great sense of his city's history--found two fantastic shots of the Green in his collection and has been kind enough to allow me to post them on Noirish. He's done an incredible job of inserting what remains of the building into the original from 1894. The third picture is dated 1924.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4259/greenyoung3.jpg


You can see that the enlargement of the four small windows under the arches on the north side was done, as was the addition of a door, some time before 1924.


All pics: Private Collection

i wrote on a earlier post today that the door in the corner was not there when i worked in the local area ('68-'80) but i guess my memory was not so good, but i do remember that even though the door may have been there, it was not used in those days. Google Stats Pasadena images and some of those will show bits of the interior.

Krell58 Mar 15, 2013 3:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5174348)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_z...80258%20AM.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHIN...eature=related


A remnant in plain sight? "Mysterious stairs" behind McKenzie, Brackman, Chaney and Kuzak (ok, 444 S. Flower) in this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHIN...eature=related


Are these stairs a remnant of old Bunker Hill? It looks it on film, but I can't really tell if the concrete is definitely older than the newer construction. Anyone have any ideas of where they may have once led? (Btw--there are no clues on the big 1931 map of downtown....)

Here's how the mysterious stairs look on LA Noire, and I gave a link to the LA Stooges lady that posted the original video.

Video Link

BifRayRock Mar 15, 2013 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6052221)



The background construction is likely the California Federal Plaza at 5670 Wilshire. Sources suggest it was completed in '63 which may mean the Pan Pacific - Bell Rocket Belt photos were earlier than listed.

http://you-are-here.com/modern/mutual_benefit.jpghttp://you-are-here.com/modern/mutual_benefit.html



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3068/2...e94a7d12_b.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...70279&page=522


BifRayRock Mar 15, 2013 5:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6052388)
I really like this photograph BifRayRock. I've never noticed the five gigantic vents on the roof before.
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They certainly seem pronounced there. In another image (below) they seem less so. I took them to be roof windows with the dual purpose of illumination and venting.

Since the venue served as an ice rink, I also assumed the Pan was originally equipped with air conditioning that actually functioned. Would anyone happen to know if these climate controlled buildings of the '30s and '40s made use of any specialized thermal insulation? I know heated water pipes and duct work was often asbestos wrapped, but what about the Pan's apparently thin walls and ceilings? Plaster, wood lathe and a couple of extra heavy layers of oil-based paint?

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012619.jpg Lapl


Few dates provided:
1890 - C. Ducommun - 204 N. Main Street (after 1890 at 304 N. Main Street)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics24/00031894.jpg


Brown & Foster Hardware
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics34/00066513.jpg

Dunn Edwards - 960 Block of North Highland https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...oi24vj3IZSwioQgoogle
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059221.jpg


Eastern Outfitting Co. Hardware store - 855 So. Main Street
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics34/00066511.jpg

Hellman Hardware, two convenient locations: 744 So. Spring St. and 747 So. Main St.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics34/00066512.jpg


1932 - Rompage Hardware Co., - 5512 Hollywood Blvd.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics43/00071482.jpg

Except where noted, all from LAPL


Flyingwedge Mar 15, 2013 8:20 AM

The Third Theater
 
For a brief time, Westchester had the Loyola, the Paradise, and a third theater. It was the 1,530-seat La Tijera, on La Tijera Blvd. just south of Centinela in far NE Westchester. The S. Charles Lee-designed building operated as a theater only for about four years, starting in January 1949. Next it was a bowling alley and is now an office building.

As an idea:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psa7997c9e.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...601&FULLSIZE=y
All UCLA pics are copyright Julius Schulman.

As built (Abbott and Costello re-releases from 1941 & 42?):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd6ba5de9.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...602&FULLSIZE=y

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ecaaf89.jpg
LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics18/00028700.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3e7eb0be.jpg
Cinema Treasures -- http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2030/photos/19521
My grandparents went to high school with Robert Young (Lincoln HS in Los Angeles). Grandpa said people called Robert Young "The Undertaker" because he always wore black.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8130c691.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...603&FULLSIZE=y

Looking out:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4257fd99.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...604&FULLSIZE=y

The foyer:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psa3bc4cb3.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...606&FULLSIZE=y

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps69712634.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...605&FULLSIZE=y

Ladies' Lounge:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps22007d6b.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...607&FULLSIZE=y

The Auditorium:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1cb7ebf0.jpg
UCLA Digital -- http://digital.library.ucla.edu/scle...608&FULLSIZE=y

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4b470cb1.jpg
Cinema Treasures -- http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2030/photos/19523

Ads:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps380defe8.jpg
Cinema Treasures -- http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2030/photos/36183

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps837555fd.jpg
Ken McIntyre -- http://s132.beta.photobucket.com/use...02-74.jpg.html

Los Angeles Times movie guide for January 29, 1949. Both La Tijera and Loyola theaters are mentioned in display ads:
(link only) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...29_theater.jpg

And the last time the Googlemobile went by:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb45d3866.jpg
GSV

MichaelRyerson Mar 15, 2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6052118)
Yes, and Michael, that was what I was leading up to, it's just Hollywood trickery and any shots of a real dog track (i've never seen the movie) would be from some other place.

Well duh. See subtlety doesn't work for me, I'm too dense. I figured you were smart enough to get Fred's drift but I couldn't read your tone of voice.

MichaelRyerson Mar 15, 2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6052388)
I really like this photograph BifRayRock. I've never noticed the five gigantic vents on the roof before.
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If memory serves, I think those were sky-lights. Of course, if they were openable, then vents too.

BifRayRock Mar 15, 2013 2:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6052475)
What building was being completed in the background as the Belasco was under construction?




:previous:

1106 S. Broadway (?) Known by several names, including the Case Hotel and Job Corp building .

http://www.loopnet.com/xnet/mainsite...Original=Falsehttp://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17616...os-Angeles-CA/


1926
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...J7PFRGX9XQ.jpgCalStLib


Edit: The dated Belasco construction photos call into doubt the source's 1922 attribution date.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics46/00072714.jpgLAPL


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1955 (?)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/306...elexaminer.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9...elexaminer.jpg :previous:http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=2248





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