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AlvaroLegido Sep 4, 2017 4:31 PM

BUNKER'S overFLIGHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 7910328)
Here's a noirish film from the 1960s called "Angel's Flight." It's so bad, it's hilarious. And you get to see a young Rue McClanahan (billed as "Rhue" McClanahan in the credits) in a bit part. Sorry if it's been posted here before.

Video Link

For the Noirishers who want to visit Bunker Hill without seeing the movie (BTW which seemed to me better than SOuth PASadena thinks) here are below the timings where we see Bunker Hill.
0:00 Film credits. The Angels Flight, the Hillcrest, the tunnel at Third and Hill, view to Olive with the Ferguson Bld and the land above on the left (we are in 1965, the 3 other buildings are cleared) ;
4:30 Hope Street above the Third Street tunnel (views to the north, east and south) ;
6:55 Third Street tunnel and Hill portal. Then an upflight with views to the right ;
8:05 at Olive and the Angels Flight Cafe ;
8:45 inside (a set probably... already discussed on NLA) ;
16:30 Portal at Olive and view to the Astoria ;
16:45 inside the cafe ;
21:20 Victorian at Hope (or BH Avenue) (already discussed) ;
25:45 West entrance of the Third Street tunnel (maybe Second Street tunnel) ;
26:25 Beautiful night view to the west from an elevated room in the Victorian (already discussed) ;
29:55 Third Street tunnel at Hill ;
33:15 Streets of BH ;
34:50 Angels Flight Cafe ;
46:45 Provided it is BH : a street, a bench and an elevated night view behind the bench ;
47:00 The Victorian ;
54:15 inside a tunnel (Third or Second) ;
56:10 Third Street at Olive (looking west with a quick view to the south) ;
56:30 Grand Avenue at Second Street (view to the north) ;
56:55 View from an elevated room of the Elks to the Angels Flight Cafe ;
57:05 Angels Flight at Olive ;
1:06:45 Last scene at... Clay Street (I was waiting for this set...), Clay next to the railway, then the right stairs to a probably fictional dark entrance (already discussed), then downstairs, Clay and downstairs on the left, the AF and a last climbing ;
1:10:30 Film credit (the same than at the beginning !).

tovangar2 Sep 4, 2017 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 7911216)
Hi all, I just finished reading a bio of Bill Medley from the Righteous Brothers. Its an ok read and pretty short, but in it he mentions that his ex wife got murdered in Hermosa Beach in the mid 70's (i think 1975). I know we have a few South Bay residents in this group, do any of you remember this? The murder went unsolved for over 40 years and it was solved earlier this year. Im looking for the location of the house or a newspaper article. Thanks in advance.

Most complete info:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-n...-beach-in-1976

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RK...w=w501-h500-no
daily breeze

HossC Sep 4, 2017 9:09 PM

:previous:

I found a short video on the subject:

Video Link

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2017 10:15 PM

re: 2619 S. Figueroa St.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7909971)

The zanja ran along Figueroa to Adams. I wonder if the water is run-off from the zanja terminus.

so what did the terminus of the Figueroa zanja look like (or for that matter, the terminus of any zanja?)
Did the excess water just spill into the street or was the excess water collected in a water trough or small reservoir?


Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde
Appears to be the site of Buster Keaton’s Haunted House movie?
https://silentlocations.wordpress.co...haunted-house/

http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/busterKeaton2619.jpg

Sorry if this is a repeat.

No I don't think this is a repeat for NLA GV, but GW covered it in his blog HERE





Here's another screen-grab from the film that shows more of the house. (it appears a bit run-down)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/cYwsPV.jpg
https://silentlocations.wordpress.co...haunted-house/

So was the house truly run-down in 1921, or did the studio manipulate the exterior to make it appear haunted?



also in the film is this quick close-up. (side porch?)

blue=night
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/cvM3Gr.jpg
haunted_house 1921
Part 3 of 3 / 2:26 of 5:59

the film is in three parts on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb9bQU76y-k&t=1s





oh, I almost forgot...

there is also a night chase around what appears to be a wishing well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/o9ky4o.jpg
Part 2 of 3 / 1:41 of 5:13

GaylordWilshire Sep 4, 2017 10:53 PM

:previous:


The Figueroa zanja turned west at Adams, running along that street's south side to about Hoover (as I recall). I think there might have been a map or description on NLA before. Development beyond wherever the terminus was was served by wells or, before long, underground mains. Good question about excess water--many houses pumped a supply into cisterns to supply pressure--


2619 S Figueroa was most likely run down with little help from the prop department when "The Haunted House" was shot. It appears that the Auto Club had acquired the house by then--the club was issued a demo permit for it on Nov 12, 1920, so 2619 may well have been leveled by the time the short was released on Feb 21, 1921.

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2017 10:55 PM

Thanks so much for the information GW. (looks like we'll have to do some digging about the excess water)





I found a Carbolic Smoke Ball!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/PuGCfe.jpg
http://www.carbolicsmokeball.com/

(actually it's a pen holder) :shrug:
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Los Angeles Daily Herald, March 26, 1887
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/9NNV3D.jpg

Local offices at 28 N. Spring Street, Los Angeles Calif. (Rooms 3 and 4)
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I wonder if the smoke balls enjoyed a renaissance during the Spanish flu epidemic?

CityBoyDoug Sep 4, 2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7911451)
Thanks so much for the information GW. (looks like we'll have to do some digging about the excess water)





I found a Carbolic Smoke Ball!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/PuGCfe.jpg
http://www.carbolicsmokeball.com/



I wonder if the smoke balls enjoyed a renaissance during the Spanish flu epidemic?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lWHgZHerPk...smoke+ball.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lWHgZHerPk...smoke+ball.jpg

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2017 11:36 PM

re: C. W. Hollister House, 1763 Cahuenga [by Greene & Greene]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge


I just came across this sepia print that appears to have taken the same day. [EDIT: I changed my mind. The little girl has grown in this pic and has a bow in her hair]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/X5ow9D.jpg
UC Berkeley archive via lamag

Or.....maybe it's a different little girl (the plants in the courtyard haven't grown at all) :shrug:




As Flyingwedge stated in his earlier post HERE; the home was eventually moved to Canada.

"Here is the former Cora C. Hollister House in the 1960s, after it had been moved a second time, to the Mill Woods area of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/qdmewl.jpg
Steve Vaught at lamag






& "this is the last remaining room of the house, along with several doors, survive in the farmhouse, northwest of Edmonton, Canada."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/EYsNog.jpg
Steve Vaught at lamag. The home is owned by Gail Hartwig.

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ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2017 12:24 AM

Thanks for finding this ad CityBoyDoug.

At first I didn't notice that the lady was demonstrating how to use the smoke ball.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/2WU01L.jpg

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Lorendoc Sep 5, 2017 7:41 AM

Sand Bar
 
Here's a non-photographic question for the group. Have any of you ever heard of "Sand Bar" or "Sandbar" as the name of an LA neighborhood?

The patron saint of Noirish LA, Raymond Chandler, endured an uneven radio adaptation of his Philip Marlowe stories running from 1947 to 1951. "The Adventures of Philip Marlowe" first starred Van Johnson, who was shortly replaced by Gerald Mohr. While not a fan of the radio show, Chandler said that Mohr's voice at least "had personality."

From the episode "The Deep Shadow" broadcast March 21, 1950:
"I found my car, all right, a half a block from Sunset Boulevard. It took 20 minutes to get from there to the Sand Bar district. It was downhill all the way. It was a neighborhood squeezed, cramped in by a solid wall of massive factories and as festive as the bottom of a bent garbage can. At the corner of River Street and 3rd, I found the house. Three sagging, rotten stories of tenement that squatted in the eternal shadow of a huge gas tank like a sick, dirty old man. The proud, gleaming giant of City Hall was only seven blocks away; it might just as well have been seventy miles."
The similes in these radio scripts are pretty good imitations of the original. The series is well worth revisiting for anyone interested in this thread.

This 1952 Leonard Nadel picture, captioned only "Slum dwelling in industrial area," seems to fit the description of the Sand Bar neighborhood:

https://i.imgur.com/YjW4XKe.jpg
Calisphere.org

The address of the tenement is not given. But there are clues: the gasometer, and the General Electric Building. The latter was at 212 N. Vignes Street, and now houses the LA City Personnel Department. I nosed the Googlemoblie over to this address, but couldn't make the windows match. Driving around the corner, though, they did:

https://i.imgur.com/b3xTIhG.jpg
GSV

The gasometer was a couple of blocks north on Jackson Street:
https://i.imgur.com/Rd3ryoN.jpg
UCSB aerial collection

A Sanborn map:

https://i.imgur.com/uaCox9K.jpg
lapl

...provides the address of the tenement: 718 Banning. Next door was a "yard filled with old pipes." The building was demolished in 1958, and today is a parking lot.

The LA River certainly had (has) sandbars, but I'd be interested if anyone has heard of this used as an LA toponym.

CityBoyDoug Sep 5, 2017 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7911494)
Thanks for finding this ad CityBoyDoug.

At first I didn't notice that the lady was demonstrating how to use the smoke ball.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/2WU01L.jpg

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Thanks ER and yes, that's why I posted it. Place the ball under your nose and breathe deeply. Absolutely noxious and dreadful....I wonder if the FDA would approve of it today....I don't think so but then you never know.

Hollywood Graham Sep 5, 2017 4:20 PM

Sandbar might refer to an area along the river before it was paved with cement.

ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2017 10:18 PM

Here's something you don't see everyday.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/1XWORL.jpg
ebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/Ov9aiT.jpg

"Traffic officer R.A. Smith went completely up in the air last night handling traffic at Wilshire and Carthay Circle.
Fifty feet straight up in the air Smith tried out a new idea in traffic direction by dangling from a captive balloon.
It worked great said Smith. I could see traffic from blocks around. Someday I may be directing airplanes the same way."

Los Angeles 10/11/30

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a closer look at the very cool Carthay Circle Park sign.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/hHDdbb.jpg
detail

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ethereal_reality Sep 5, 2017 11:47 PM

Late last week we discussed the Los Angeles Country Club & Flyingwedge found some phenomenal photographs.


I believe I found two photographs of one of the earlier locations in a vacation album dated 1900.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/8yra5w.jpg
old file / found on ebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/dcconC.jpg
ditto








for closer inspection

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/aGSeO3.jpg






not a great photograph, but at least it's something.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/EppM5u.jpg

C.T.S. stands for Cora Taylor Strout (the name on the cover of the photo album)

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CityBoyDoug Sep 5, 2017 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 7910328)
I ditched work on Thursday to ride Angels Flight on its grand re-re-re-reopening---it opened in 1901, closed in 1969, reopened in 1996, closed in 2001, reopened in 2010, closed briefly for a month and then reopened in 2011, closed in 2013, and finally reopened again August 31, 2017. Hopefully it'll be running for the long haul. Fare is now a buck one way, 50 cents if you have a valid Metro TAP card.

A then and now of sorts:


Angels Flight station house, August 31, 2017.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ce&oe=5A57497F
Photo by me

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Angel's Flight is now closed again [due to weather '?'], after it was open for only 4 days this week.... Sept. 5, 2017.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 6, 2017 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7912481)
Angel's Flight is now closed again [due to weather '?'], after it was open for only 4 days this week.... Sept. 5, 2017.

The article I found though Google said that it was a part that wore out, Angel's Flight should reopen this afternoon or Thursday morning.

CityBoyDoug Sep 6, 2017 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7912769)
The article I found though Google said that it was a part that wore out, Angel's Flight should reopen this afternoon or Thursday morning.

The whole contraption needs complete repair. A quick lipstick and rouge doesn't cut it.

GaylordWilshire Sep 6, 2017 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7912471)
Late last week we discussed the Los Angeles Country Club & Flyingwedge found some phenomenal photographs.


I believe I found two photographs of one of the earlier locations in a vacation album dated 1900.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/8yra5w.jpg
old file / found on ebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/dcconC.jpg
ditto


A few notes on Mrs. Strout and the LACC...she was the wife of a Seattle insurance man; her visit to the LACC in 1900 would have been at its third location, described as the nec of Pico & Western in the LACC's own history. Apparently this clubhouse had been moved from the second location 2/10 of a mile east (@Hobart & 16th) in 1899.... (Somewhere on NLA we've covered the club's three locations prior to the building of the current club in 1910.)

Ed Workman Sep 6, 2017 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7912795)
The whole contraption needs complete repair. A quick lipstick and rouge doesn't cut it.

The dummies that FINALLY rebuilt it forgot the lessons of history and made it Oh So Moderner, instead of rebuilding it as a funicular. A funicular typically has one rope [ wire rope] with a car on each end, such as the Echo Mountain incline etc. So when one is at the top, the other is at the bottom and only one track is needed, except in the middle
It's pretty easy and economical to oversize the rope for safety and long life, and the cars nearly balance each other so that power consumption is low.
These knuckleheads weren't the first to make it up instead of looking back.
There was a fascinating set of ropeways on the Serra do Mar Incline in Brazil. The Japanese offerred to replace the older inclines with a new one using electrically powered rack locomotives. NO ropes No Pulleys No pins... They didn't read up on Swiss technical history- Switzerland, after all, does have a lot of mountains and ways to get up and down them. They had determined just how much force could safely be imposed on a rack tooth. But no, the new Serra-Santos opened up, the pinion teeth popped up out of the rack, the first heavy train dashed downhill and folks were killed. It took only a decade to fix it however
Dumb Bastids all

Flyingwedge Sep 6, 2017 9:30 PM

The first three Los Angeles Country Club locations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7910062)
Here is some information on the club's earlier locations. (that I didn't know about until today)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/zp710P.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/D1FN0T.jpg

I'm hoping to turn up some additional info (and possibly photographs) of the 'Windmill Links' and the 'Convent Links'.
-so far I haven't had any luck. [stay tuned :)]

#1, the "Windmill Links," was at the SE corner of Pico and Alvarado. The 1900 Sanborn Map shows the area still
undeveloped all the way down to then-16th Street (on the east, Iowa is now Bonnie Brae). The only structure is the
old windmill/clubhouse, to the right of "1618":

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original


"Wind Mill & W[ater] Tank
Not Used
(Old)":

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

Both ProQuest via LAPL


#2, the "Convent Links," was not a location I could pin down any closer than 16th and Hobart. The Convent of the Immaculate
Heart was at the SW corner of Pico and Ardmore (Ardmore is Jasmine on the 1907 Sanborn). However, this photo of the LACC
clubhouse appeared in the December 24, 1898, edition of The Capital, so this shows the clubhouse at whichever corner of 16th
(now Venice) and Hobart it was at:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original

HathiTrust


The interior, from the same page:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original


Here is an article describing the first tournament at the "Convent Links," held on November 24, 1898.


#3 was at the NW corner of Pico and Western, although the 1907 Sanborn shows the clubhouse was over by St. Andrews:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


GW previously posted this nice clear shot of the clubhouse after it had been relocated to Pico and Western/St. Andrews
from 16th and Hobart:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6506943)


Here are a few less clear images of the LACC clubhouse at Pico and Western/St. Andrews:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

March 8, 1902, The Capital @ HathiTrust


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original

February 1906 The Golfers Magazine at HathiTrust

The February 1906 The Golfers Magazine also ran this item about the LACC looking to buy 140 acres of the "Dominguez ranch,"
but that sounds like a different location than where the club moved to.



http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original

November 1908 The Golfers Magazine at HathiTrust


Out on the course:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original

18th Green c. 1901, from The Official Golf Guide (1902) at HathiTrust


I like the narrow, balance-beam-like bridge at far left:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original

June 1903 Western Field at HathiTrust


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